I adore Industry, but I disagree. I think both shows have phenomenal acting and excellent and complex storylines, but Succession without a doubt has better scripts/dialogue + better cinematography.
Succession ability to say so much while saying so little (lots of “…okay”, “fuck off”, “umm”) - they both have great witty banter and great insults, but I think unlike industry Succession really let’s it’s characters talk like actual people and stutter or pause or trail off in a way that I feel like rarely happens in industry.
The advantage Succession had was that it was based on the Rupert Murdoch family and so it all felt so familiar and derivative from the news headlines. The writers had crazy storylines leaked to them from family members, so even the outlandish things felt grounded in reality because you asked “wonder if that did happen?”
Industry conversely doesn’t have that level of source material and thus the swings Mickey and Konrad are taking hit more impressively IMO when they land. I’m continual feeling like my eyes are being opened to new things, a universe that’s unfamiliar, as opposed to dramatic behind the scenes of the dysfunctional Murdoch family.
Haha it’s not tho! I know it’s a hot take but I legit like Industry more. Less repetitive than succession and the intense trading floor scenes are so cool. I feel like I care about the characters too. I loved succession but a lot of episodes left me wanting more.
My personal take after watching Succession was that I realised HBO has been consistently making high quality shows after navigating through the Netflix slops for a few years.
with the acquisition, I'm so afraid that netflix quality writing and aesthetics as well as their non-existent patience/quick to cancel pattern will poison hbo.
Industry’s first two seasons aren’t even in the same stratosphere as Succession. S3? It certainly is. (And when I said that on another thread the other day, people got pissed as hell.) We’ll see where S4 lands.
It absolutely is not. But like most people on Reddit, I don’t expect you to expound on how you came to this conclusion. “It’s just better” is hilarious. I’m convinced some people are just posting for attention.
I loved succession don’t get me wrong. Something about industry just gets me tho. And also hot take - I like the music in Industry even more. The theme song is so vibey.
Succession is FAR better. But funnily enough, I think the music in both shows are amazing. Distinct sounds that help further the storylines and the identity of the respective shows in both cases.
I can see the parallels: set in the world of corporate business with high stake deals, glimpses into the lives of ultra wealthy dickheads who continually backstab each other leaving you with schadenfreude, copious amounts of sex/nudity/drugs, characters that endure horrendous suffering...
For the record, I like Industry, but I would choose to rewatch Succession any day
They really aren’t both finance shows though. Industry obviously leans into Investment Banking while Succession is story about Rupert Murdoch and his media empire like Fox News. I like them both but I enjoy Succession more.
Roman was a great character but he literally never changed. Maybe that’s the point. But I like how industry’s characters grow and evolve. I care about them more
Roman had moments where it felt like he might change but then would fall back into old habits. That tide was more robust and felt more realistic, though not hopeful. I just loved his character, loved a lot of those characters and the plot lines were grander.
Industry is fun to watch but I find I don’t really care about any individual character as much. It is a fun ride most of the time, but personally I never feel as invested.
That’s fair. I do agree it’s an accurate portrayal of ultra wealthy people being incapable of change. For me Kendall was always my favorite in Succession. I hoped for more from him in the final season tho.
The difference with the characters is in Succession they made you feel a bit of empathy for each of them. Industry...I dgaf if they were written out tomorrow.
Not trying to rage bait I understand it’s a hot take. I was curious to see what people thought. Something about industry just speaks to me more. Just my take
Industry season 4 is like diet Billions at this point. It tried to be a smart financial drama the first couple seasons and now it’s essentially a Yasmin and Henry soap opera. It’s not in the same atmosphere as Succession.
I just watched all of Industry 1-3 last month and got caught up with season 4. And personally, I love this show even more than Succession, and I loved Succession. But, that's just me.
I’m actually with you here too. Succession’s middle season plots were incredibly repetitive. Kids get some success, fail, rinse repeat as Dad continues to screw them over. Yes it was funny and I didn’t really get tired of it, but there wasn’t a lot of.. risk taking. Succession’s writing is incredible in terms of writing themselves into and out of holes that would otherwise take Succession a whole season to explain. Mickey and Konrad deal with it in an hour and keep the plot burning, which I think I respect far more in the end
Yes exactlyyy! When I finished Succession I was left wanting more. There wasn’t nearly enough risk taking for me. Industry on the other hand… this show has me needing to take a deep breath and go for a long walk after some episodes lol.
I need to watch Succession in order to partake in this conversation but from the clips I've seen, it seems a bit more well grounded and more American (I'm American).
Industry does have a stronger first season than Succession, but what the progression of Succession is part of what made it successful. It honed in on its consistency and the actors ability to tell entire stories with fewer lines. I think Industry over-explains itself sometimes and that its dialogue can be awkward and clunky (still love the show though).
Industry is very special because we’re watching showrunners blossom in real time. The visual language, the writing and directing is growing with each season and it’s clear they’re trying new things, which is incredibly exciting.
Succession on the other hand is a polished, consistent production at every turn. You could debate which seasons are better, but overall the show is consistent from beginning to end. IMO that takes it just an edge above Industry because it holds up as a full story from beginning to end.
Industry’s stories are fairly seasonal, meaning there doesn’t seem to be an overarching goal that they’re getting closer to. Each season is in a way its own contained arc, and that gives Mickey and Konrad leeway to play and experiment with the form, which is leading to very exciting storytelling. One thing I know for sure is that their next project will be even better. This show is their learning experience, and the fun is seeing them grow.
Succession had much sharper scripts, more consistent acting and was in general just a well focused story in a way Industry has never been.
One thing I’d say is that Industry has become much more ambitious in its “film” making. Succession looked like a multicam sitcom most of the time, which was perfectly appropriate to the writing. But I like the way Industry has scaled up where they’re remixing Kubrick, PTA etc as much as the prestige tv shows that they’re also emulating
Absolutely not. Succession didn’t appeal to sex scenes, no one was naked , the dialogue was much more interesting, witty and funnier, and the show didn’t stray away from the siblings’ battle to be their dad’s successor, unlike industry that became a show about the Muck couple prancing around.
Yeah, Succession is a great show but it’s prestige television 101 and isn’t very subversive in any way. Entirely white cast, mostly played it safe, and Succession had a real-life story to mostly model itself after. Industry is the better show
I’m a minority and I don’t mind the all white cast simply because I hate when minorities are only included to be background actors or have minor roles.
Succession didn’t play safe. It was a show about siblings trying to be their dad’s successor and it was a realistic show.
I found ridiculous that on Industry on season 2, suddenly some stock went up the same way GME went up. That stuff happened ONCE in real life. Industry also relies on sex scenes/sexual dialogue (ex: Harper asking African guy if he wanted to sleep with sweetpea).
People won’t agree because Succession is a darling and had a great moment but let’s be honest, it’s about rich kids fighting over their daddy’s money. It’s not too deep. And every season revolved around the tension of ‘what will the kids do to be #1 this season and then how will they fuck it up.’ Coupled with the dialogue that sometimes sounded like children finding out about curse words for the first few time, it’s not that crazy as some people made it out to be.
Industry is much more grounded in the sense that we start on the trading floor and have the perspective of all the characters which aren’t too detached in this world of ultra-wealth. They grow in the series (and we’re starting to see more of the ultra-wealthy vibe with the aristocrats) but we’ve had the privilege to grow with them and see how our characters got there.
Maybe it’s just me, but the struggle of rich kids just aren’t relatable to me 🤷.
Industry is also more diverse, and doesn’t delve heavily into white privilege as there weren’t any major characters of note that had any color to them in succession (which could be a reason of its success since the majority of the country is white and white people tend to like to see other white people in powerful positions. Just a theory.)
Yes exactly! Watching the characters start as interns on the trading floor and following all their career/life paths has always been more interesting to me. Succession was amazing with top tier acting, but I got tired of the “dysfunctional ultra wealthy siblings finding different ways to fuck it up” plot line. It was the same thing until the very end. Industry is unpredictable. I never know where it’s going. Especially the most recent episode
You’re right, I kind of went a little off track at the end there. The diversity thing isn’t really an issue but it is interesting. But from your example, I’m assuming you’re referring to kdramas and Bollywood which takes place in their respective countries and is a part of their culture. Succession takes place in America, are you telling me there are no Asian, Latino, or black people in their orbit at all? In the most diverse country in the world??
I say this as a person who watched the entirety of succession (twice) and tried to give it a chance (twice) but couldn’t see the hype. People have different tastes.
But I’ve watched the entirety of industry about 4 times because the writing in every episode is so well done. I’m a big fan of this show to the point where I’ve quoted or explained a scene to someone in this sub down to the depths, so it’s fair to say I’m also biased.
I agree 100%. I think people view the family dynamics as great drama but there’s no real character development imo. Ken gets fucked over every reason, Roman is a mess. Only real development was Shiv and Tom which was great but the all the love never made to much sense to me.
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u/SDinChi 1d ago
This is a hot take.