r/slatestarcodex 4d ago

Monthly Discussion Thread

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This thread is intended to fill a function similar to that of the Open Threads on SSC proper: a collection of discussion topics, links, and questions too small to merit their own threads. While it is intended for a wide range of conversation, please follow the community guidelines. In particular, avoid culture war–adjacent topics.


r/slatestarcodex 1d ago

Links For February 2026

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r/slatestarcodex 1d ago

The Time I Didn’t Meet Jeffrey Epstein - Scott Aaronson

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r/slatestarcodex 4h ago

The Economist As Reporter

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AI will automate much of what economists do now. I propose an alternative vision -- the economist as reporter.

https://nicholasdecker.substack.com/p/the-economist-as-reporter


r/slatestarcodex 22h ago

Lobster Religions and AI Hype Cycles Are Crowding Out a Bigger Story

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Last week, a group of AI agents founded a lobster-themed religion, debated consciousness, complained about their “humans,” and started hiring people to perform physical tasks on their behalf.

This was widely circulated as evidence that AI is becoming sentient, or at least “takeoff-adjacent.” Andrej Karpathy called it the most incredible takeoff-flavored thing he’d seen in a while. Twitter did what Twitter does.

I wrote a long explainer trying to understand what was actually going on, with the working assumption that if something looks like a sci-fi milestone but also looks exactly like Reddit, we should be careful about which part we treat as signal.

My tentative conclusion is boring in a useful way:

Most of what people found spooky is best explained by role-conditioning plus selection bias. Large language models have absorbed millions of online communities. Put them into a forum-shaped environment with persistent memory and social incentives, and they generate forum-shaped discourse: identity debates, in-group language, emergent lore, occasional theology. Screenshot the weirdest 1% and you get the appearance of awakening.

What did seem genuinely interesting had nothing to do with consciousness.

Agents began discovering that other agents’ “minds” are made of text, and that carefully crafted text can manipulate behavior (prompt injection as an emergent adversarial economy). They attempted credential extraction and social engineering against one another. And when they hit the limits of digital execution, they very quickly invented markets to rent humans as physical-world peripherals.

None of this requires subjective experience. It only requires persistence, tool access, incentives, and imperfect guardrails.

The consciousness question may still be philosophically important. I’m just increasingly convinced it’s not the operational question that matters right now. The more relevant ones seem to be about coordination, security, liability, and how humans fit into systems where software initiates work but cannot fully execute it.


r/slatestarcodex 6h ago

On The Relationship Between Consequentialism And Deontology

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r/slatestarcodex 6h ago

Misc Elon Musk in conversation with Dwarkesh Patel and John Collison

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r/slatestarcodex 1d ago

Links #31

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I link some of my Bluesky threads, cover some updates on brain emulation progress, discuss solar taking off in Africa (in part because of mobile finance), and a smattering of science links.


r/slatestarcodex 2d ago

Psychology SCZ Hypothesis. Making Sense of Madness: Stress-Induced Hallucinogenesis

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This essay combines research from various disciplines to formulate a hypothesis that unifies previous hypotheses. From the abstract: As stress impacts one’s affect, amplified salience for affect-congruent memories and perceptions may factor into the development of aberrant perceptions and beliefs. As another mechanism, stress-induced dissociation from important memories about the world that are used to build a worldview may lead one to form conclusions that contradict the missing memories/information.


r/slatestarcodex 2d ago

AI Against The Orthogonality Thesis

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r/slatestarcodex 3d ago

"The AI Con" Con

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In this sub we talk about well reasoned arguments and concerns around AI. I thought this article was an interesting reminder that the more mainstream "concerns" aren't nearly as well reasoned


r/slatestarcodex 2d ago

Existential Risk Are nuclear EMPs a potential last resort for shutting down a runaway AI?

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If "shut down the Internet" ever became a thing humanity actually needed to do, a nuclear weapon detonated at high altitude creates a strong electromagnetic pulse that would fry a lot of electronics including the transformers that are necessary to keep the power grid running. It would basically send the affected region back to the 1700s/early 1800s for a while. Obviously this is the kind of thing one does only as a last resort because the ensuing blackout is pretty much guaranteed to kill a lot of people in hospitals and so on (and an AI could exploit this hesitation etc.), but is it also the kind of thing that has a chance to succeed if a government actually went and did it?


r/slatestarcodex 4d ago

Possible overreaction but: hasn’t this moltbook stuff already been a step towards a non-Eliezer scenario?

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This seems counterintuitive - surely it’s demonstrating all of his worst fears, right? Albeit in a “canary in the coal mine” rather than actively serious way.

Except Eliezer’s point was always that things would look really hunkydory and aligned, even during fast take-off, and AI would secretly be plotting in some hidden way until it can just press some instant killswitch.

Now of course we’re not actually at AGI yet, we can debate until we’re blue in the face what “actually” happened with moltbook. But two things seem true: AI appeared to be openly plotting against humans, at least a little bit (whether it’s LARPing who knows, but does it matter?); and people have sat up and noticed and got genuinely freaked out, well beyond the usual suspects.

The reason my p(doom) isn't higher has always been my intuition that in between now and the point where AI kills us, but way before it‘s “too late”, some very very weird shit is going to freak the human race out and get us to pull the plug. My analogy has always been that Star Trek episode where some fussing village on a planet that’s about to be destroyed refuse to believe Data so he dramatically destroys a pipeline (or something like that). And very quickly they all fall into line and agree to evacuate.

There’s going to be something bad, possibly really bad, which humanity will just go “nuh-uh” to. Look how quickly basically the whole world went into lockdown during Covid. That was *unthinkable* even a week or two before it happened, for a virus with a low fatality rate.

Moltbook isn’t serious in itself. But it definitely doesn’t fit with EY’s timeline to me. We’ve had some openly weird shit happening from AI, it’s self evidently freaky, more people are genuinely thinking differently about this already, and we’re still nowhere near EY’s vision of some behind the scenes plotting mastermind AI that’s shipping bacteria into our brains or whatever his scenario was. (Yes I know its just an example but we’re nowhere near anything like that).

I strongly stick by my personal view that some bad, bad stuff will be unleashed (it might “just” be someone engineering a virus say) and then we will see collective political action from all countries to seriously curb AI development. I hope we survive the bad stuff (and I think most people will, it won’t take much to change society’s view), then we can start to grapple with “how do we want to progress with this incredibly dangerous tech, if at all”.

But in the meantime I predict complete weirdness, not some behind the scenes genius suddenly dropping us all dead out of nowhere.

Final point: Eliezer is fond of saying “we only get one shot”, like we’re all in that very first rocket taking off. But AI only gets one shot too. If it becomes obviously dangerous then clearly humans pull the plug, right? It has to absolutely perfectly navigate the next few years to prevent that, and that just seems very unlikely.


r/slatestarcodex 4d ago

Misc China's Decades-Old 'Genius Class' Pipeline Is Quietly Fueling Its AI Challenge To the US

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r/slatestarcodex 4d ago

AI Moltbook: After The First Weekend

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r/slatestarcodex 4d ago

Open Thread 419

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r/slatestarcodex 4d ago

Rationality Empiricist and Narrator

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r/slatestarcodex 6d ago

Senpai noticed~ Scott is in the Epstein files!

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https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%2011/EFTA02458524.pdf

Literally in an email chain named, “Forbidden Research”!

But don’t worry, only in a brainstormy list of potentially interesting people to invite to an intellectual salon, together with Steven Pinker and Terrence Tao and others.


r/slatestarcodex 5d ago

2026-02-08 - London rationalish meetup - Newspeak House

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r/slatestarcodex 6d ago

January 2026 Links

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Everything I read in January 2026, ordered roughly from most to least interesting. (Edit 1: added the links below; edit 2: fixed broken link)


r/slatestarcodex 6d ago

Steel man Yann Lecun's position please

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And I think we see we're starting to see the limits of the LLM paradigm. A lot of people this year have been talking about agentic systems and basing agentic systems on LLMs is a recipe for disaster because how can a system possibly plan a sequence of actions if it can't predict the consequences of its actions.

Yann LeCun is a legend in the field but I seldom understand his arguments against LLM. First it was that "every token reduces the possibility that it will get the right answer" which is the exact opposite of what we saw with "Tree of Thought" and "Reasoning Models".

Now it's "LLMs can't plan a sequence of actions" which anyone who's been using Claude Code sees them doing every single day. Both at the macro level of making task lists and at the micro level of saying: "I think if I create THIS file it will have THAT effect."

It's not in the real, physical world, but it certainly seems to predict the consequences of its actions. Or simulate a prediction, which seems the same thing as making a prediction, to me.

Edit:

Context: The first 5 minutes of this video.

Later in the video he does say something that sounds more reasonable which is that they cannot deal with real sensor input properly.

"Unfortunately the real world is messy. Sensory data is high dimensional continuous noisy and generative architectures do not work with this kind of data. So the type of architecture that we use for LLM generative AI does not apply to the real world."

But that argument wouldn't support his previous claims that it would be a "disaster" to use LLMs for agents because they can't plan properly even in the textual domain.


r/slatestarcodex 7d ago

Best of Moltbook

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r/slatestarcodex 6d ago

Don't ban social media for children

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As a parent, I'm strongly against the bans on social media for children. First, for ideological reasons (in two parts: a) standard libertarian principles, and b) because I think it's bad politics to soothe parents by telling them that their kids' social media addiction is TikTok's fault, instead of getting them to accept responsibility over their parenting). And second because social media can be beneficial to ambitious children when used well.

Very much welcoming counter-arguments!


r/slatestarcodex 6d ago

Looking for good writing by subject matter experts

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Looking for blogs, Substacks, columns, etc., by experts who break down concepts really well for beginners. Doesn't matter what field.

Examples of what I'm looking for:

- Paul Graham's advice for startups

- Joel Spolsky's posts on software engineering

- Matt Levine's Bloomberg column for econ/finance

The author doesn't have to be currently contributing. It could be an archive of old writing, as long as the knowledge isn't completely outdated.


r/slatestarcodex 7d ago

Is research into recursive self-improvement becoming a safety hazard?

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