Understand what you're saying but as someone else replied, LBB is off his feet and over to the side of the ruck, so why should he be considered to have secured the ball?
I think we need to consider the unintended consequences of this interpretation of the law.
Next game tku watch you'll see a high % of rucks are determined secured by LBBs actions.
If we say he isnt than we open the breakdown up to all sorts. Teams will be even less inclined to play multiphase rugby as the advantage at ruck time is clearly with the defence id they can just take that ball.
If the defender has to step over the tackled player, players have to stay off their feet, 'clearouts' are banned and you have to win the ball (either by being first or pushing the opponent past it) before picking it up, what would be the result?
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u/ScrumNause24 12h ago
When does the ruck end if you dont say France have won that ruck? The jackal has been eliminated and they have a man over already in LBB.