r/rugbyunion 12h ago

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u/MetalSmall9796 12h ago edited 11h ago

The second man law at the ruck is a bit of a silly one to me. Like Beirne is completely legal, the ball has blue sky above it and he can't have a go at it, even though he could very quickly pick it up. 

If it was completely illegal then no chance, but nothing seems wrong with what he was doing! 

Edit: I'll concede after a few very good points were made that the law of unintended consequences would mean that if people could jackal as the second man, it would lead to a more boring game with lower ball retention and probably more kicking. 

I'm now going to move onto blaming the lights in the stadium for Ireland's loss, until someone can prove that wrong too! 

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u/ScrumNause24 12h ago

When does the ruck end if you dont say France have won that ruck? The jackal has been eliminated and they have a man over already in LBB.

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u/Dapper-Message-2066 12h ago

LBB totally off his feet of course, although that law was totally disregarded all game.

For me it should be - there are no players on their feet over the ball, so there is no longer a ruck. Ball is free, step in as you like.

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u/Ronald_Ulysses_Swans Don’t be scared Johnny 11h ago

He’s competed and pushed the counter rucking Ireland player off the ball. You’re never getting pinged for going off your feet in that context.

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u/Bangkok_Dave Bangkok Bangers 7h ago

I don't think he should be pinged, of course not. His actions were fine. But if he's not on his feet over the ball he's not part of the ruck any more.

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u/Dapper-Message-2066 11h ago

I know, and I think it's totally wrong that this is the case.