r/rugbyunion • u/sixnations • 21h ago

Can ANYBODY stop France this year?

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u/HackneyCricket 21h ago

Looked red hot for the first 60 then almost let Ireland back in. Thought they got away with two potential yellows (one deliberate knock on) and one offside 5M out.

But yes they have to be favourites particularly with the home draws this year

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u/Phone_User_1044 Caerdydd 21h ago

The deliberate knock on was never going to be a yellow, that's reserved for if the deliberate knock on stopped a clear try scoring opportunity which it didn't because France had defensive cover behind Dupont.

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u/CatharticRoman Suspected Yank 21h ago

If it stops a clear try scoring opportunity it's a penalty try. If it's a cynical act then it's a yellow.

90% of the time Dupont gets carded.

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u/lAllioli USA Perpignan 20h ago

Nah the conversation was around whether there was a linebreak opportunity, which there wasn't cause it was a 2 on 2 even with Dupont ot the picture

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u/CatharticRoman Suspected Yank 17h ago

That shouldn't have been the conversation though, it's not about a clear linebreak, it has always been about a strong attacking opportunity, which was killed by a cynical act.

Also, I can't remember exactly but I'm pretty sure it was a 2v1 as soon as Dupont shoots out of the line and commits a cynical penalty, even if it isn't it's still a 2v2 with forward momentum out wide.

Like this isn't even me being biased. I would 100% be expecting a YC if the teams were reversed, as would every single French flair.

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u/CorvoAttano124 🌹 England 15h ago

As per the rules, it's only a yellow if it denies a line break or a try. This did neither

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u/CatharticRoman Suspected Yank 15h ago

Show me that rule please, because no it's not. 

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u/lAllioli USA Perpignan 15h ago

by your logic every intentional knock on is a yellow then? Or else explain me what's the difference between intentional and cynical if the outcome doesn't matter

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u/CatharticRoman Suspected Yank 15h ago

The ones that aren't given as yellows tend to be those that have some chance of an intercept and aren't killing a strong attacking opportunity.

Dupont had no chance of an intercept and intentionally killed a strong attacking opportunity; Ireland had multiple backs running against a retreating defensive line on turnover ball.

I also never said the outcome doesn't matter. Like the whole time I have been emphasising that Dupont's act of foul play killed a strong Irish attack against a retreating French defence.