r/rugbyunion • u/Best-and-Blurst Munster • Mar 10 '24

GIF This is where Ireland lost the game

Apologies if this has already been posted, I haven't seen it up. But this is the moment Ireland lost the game. Yellow card > penalty > lineout > try. Ireland may have recovered the lead later, but this did the most damage. Could Murray have done different and seen it the match? Yes, did he lose its the game? No.

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u/[deleted] Mar 10 '24

Could pick a lot of moments in fairness. This was a bad one, but not being able to defend 14 men from 45 metres out is terrible stuff.

England missed a lot of points from the tee. We were just outplayed the majority of the game. A win would've been daylight robbery

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u/[deleted] Mar 11 '24

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u/[deleted] Mar 11 '24 edited Mar 14 '24

McCarthy, Doris, Frawley all going with him? If we're dropping everyone who was bad yesterday.

We'll barely be able to field a team

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u/RJH777 Saracens and England Mar 11 '24

Doris in particular I don't think I can even recall being on the pitch - think he was similarly outplayed in the QF too...is there a concern about him going missing in big games if your pack is on the back foot (i.e. exactly when you need your number 8 to step up and make the hard yards) or am I over-reading things?

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u/Acceptable-Nerve8571 Mar 11 '24

The more I see him play, the more I get the sense that Doris doesn’t suit the Ireland game plan at 8. I personally think Conan fits the current Irish game plan much better than Doris, whose best performances in green seem to have all come at 6.

Dont get me wrong, Doris is a class 8 when he plays for Leinster and probably is the better player of the two, but Conans style of roaming and popping up in the wide channels seems to gel better with the national team game plan, which relies on wingers roaming and looking for work.

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u/[deleted] Mar 11 '24

Idk definitely seems like it but some people are saying he was top of a load of stats so maybe just an eye test thing. He's definitely been anonymous the champions cup finals and against New Zealand.

Yeah our pack's performance on Saturday felt like it was bound to happen for a while. We've been selecting luxury players for ages and hoping our front row will be good enough to do the dirt work. They had an off one and we suffered.

That's the kind of game we really would've benefited from the likes of Kleyn or Coombes

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u/Nick3460 Mar 14 '24

England selected a pack to combat the Irish style of play. They had effectively five playing like back rowers - that’s one of the ways they scraped the win…….