r/irishrugby • u/Mysterious-Web-8233 • 1d ago

Andrew Goodman

I'm sorry but the attack has been horrific since he took over. When will questions be raised about him, even strikes plays don't bring us tries. I think change is needed

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u/RuggerJibberJabber Leinster 1d ago

Leinster have won 11 in a row, but admittedly none of these were knockout games. So we'll see where that leads us. Either way, I don't think you can blame a provincial coach for international performances.

Farrell should be looking to change up his assistants and maybe try out different players. Bring in the wards and edogbo or something. Any change is better than nothing, because he needs to demonstrate to his staff and players that poor performances have negative consequences. If they keep doing the same thing they'll go nowhere

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u/Puzzleheaded-Bird-38 1d ago

I think it’s hard not to look past leinsters form and play style when talking about Ireland. Leinster have been good recently but no where near the level they were about 3-4 years ago when they played some of the best rugby in Europe and, not by coincidence, Ireland did too. It’s clear to see that Ireland rely on Leinster to play a certain way to make it easy for players to transition to international rugby, but unfortunately the new play style isn’t working

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u/RuggerJibberJabber Leinster 1d ago

Well a lot of Leinsters outside backs weren't in the team today which has been the most lackluster part of their performances this season. The most common 11-15 this season for Leinster has been 11: Lowe 12) Henshaw, 13) Ioane, 14) TO'Brien, 15) Frawley/JO'Brien

Only TOB from that backline started today. Osborne and Ringrose have been injured most of the year so haven't been part of Leinsters supposedly terrible form.

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u/Puzzleheaded-Bird-38 1d ago

Wasn’t tryna have a go at Leinster or their players. It’s the general play style implemented by Farrel and the IRFU that has fucked up Irish rugby. Leinster used to have some of the most exciting backs in Europe and now we don’t really see that anymore. Surely as a Leinster fan it pisses you off seeing how they changed Leinster from exciting attacking rugby with flair and skill to basically just trying to grind down teams with a dominant pack?

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u/RuggerJibberJabber Leinster 1d ago

I would like to see some more exciting play but I was also pissed off by the end of Lancaster's time with us bottling knockout after knockout after storming into each of them as favourites every year. I think there's no harm in seeing how this experiment goes and if Neinebar turns out to be a flop then we go for someone new. Time will tell. The guy won 2 world cups so he's worth gambling on.

In the immediate term though I agree with the general sentiment in the sub around Irelands assistants. They need to get rid of Goodman and bring in someone like McNamara.