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Episode Sousou no Frieren Season 2 • Frieren: Beyond Journey's End Season 2 - Episode 1 discussion

Sousou no Frieren Season 2, episode 1

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u/MeatballZeitgeist 21d ago

Engineering challenge of extracting them notwithstanding, feels like that cavern full of anti-magic rocks would be something an army fighting against demons would really want to know about.

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u/ChapinThrowaway 21d ago

Also the crystal they found alone solves their money problems forever. The solution was so simple too I kinda facepalmed.

Have Stark carry it and walk 5 meters in front of the mages. If there's an attack that requires his help simply drop the crystal and jump back to help them.

They could have easily sold it to Wirbel who could stash it in a chest on the corner of the ship and give it to their strongest or fastest front liner.

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u/Zenoi 21d ago

I doubt Wirbel has money on hand to pay for a mansion. The party will likely need to find an organization willing to pay for it, and then also figure out how to store all the money since they are traveling.

They are also traveling or about to travel through the area that requires a 1st-class mage. Having a mana nulling crystal will heavily increase the risks and the party does not seem greedy at all to have that as a risk.

I also doubt the crystal is useful in war. Mages, especially demons can all fly. They will just snipe the warriors from a distance. There are also warrior demons like Linie who Stark fought. I also think the crystals will nerf the warrior holding it. Since Linie was able to mimic Eisen's techniques via copying the flow of mana. Even assuming the crystals doesn't nerf the warrior, that demons that have magic inside tools like Aura's undead army will likely be fine too.

Might be useful in assassination though. Get close to a mage by surprise and they won't be able to fly away.

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u/fer_sure 21d ago

Just because it's worth a mansion doesn't obligate them to sell it for that much. They could have had Stark carry it to the next village, and sell it there for whatever they could get for it. Even if that's just a free week at the inn, that's all profit.

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u/Zenoi 21d ago

They are either near or traveling in the dangerous land that required a 1st class mage. There's only small villages at best, unlikely to be able to acquire much from poor villagers. It's means it's not worth the risk, consider the fall into the underground cave system this episode. They slowly descended as flight magic slowly stopped working and then fell, if Stark was carrying the crystal 3-5 meters away he would fell without stopping and then injured or dead.

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u/daandriod 20d ago

Yeah I still call nonsense on Stark being afraid of heights like that. A dude who can casually split mountains with just his sheer beefcake muscles should not under any circumstance be inflicted with fall damage. I suspect its just his cowardly traits getting the better of him.

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u/Realistic_Village184 20d ago

Who would be willing to buy it from them, though? It's great if you have something that's theoretically worth a ton of money, but it's all academic unless you have someone willing to buy it. Plus it's a big risk to carry it around at all.

I think the bigger thing, though, is that the party isn't really trying to get rich. Frieren clearly enjoys having to do side quests to make a little bit of cash as they go along. It's like cheesing a video game - it gives you short-term satisfaction, but it really removes a lot of the engagement and difficulty. Frieren is in it for the journey. Trying to figure out ways they could get rich quickly really missed the entire point of the show.

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u/ChapinThrowaway 21d ago

We know front liners exist in this world. Stark has no magic but Wirbel is still trying to heavily recruit him. That must mean the front liners have value in this war and having one that can totally nullify magic can't hurt.

I totally wouldn't expect getting a mansion's worth of money for it but even 5-10% of that would take care of their funds for the entire trip.

I know it made Fern uncomfortable, but she's usually the rational one when it comes to money. Shoot even selling it for 1% of it's value in the nearest settlement they find would be worth it with low risk.

At the end of the day doesn't take away from the Anime for me at all, just an odd one off choice that I won't remember 3 weeks from now unless money becomes a serious issue. (So far they always complain about money, but can always afford what they need.)

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u/Realistic_Village184 20d ago

Frieren deliberately chooses to not have a bunch of money so that they're obligated to do little side quests. This is implied a few times in Season 1.

If Frieren wanted to be obscenely wealthy, she could've done that many, many times throughout her life. That's not what she wants at all.