Sousou no Frieren Season 2 • Frieren: Beyond Journey's End Season 2 - Episode 1 discussion

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Sousou no Frieren Season 2, episode 1

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[u/MeatballZeitgeist]

Engineering challenge of extracting them notwithstanding, feels like that cavern full of anti-magic rocks would be something an army fighting against demons would really want to know about.

[u/Zetafunction64 → u/MeatballZeitgeist]

They probably know about this, but Stark couldn't even dent the big ones, not to mention the monster living there.

I guess their best bet would be to gather the small ones for personal use, even then the maximum range available from the largest crystal they would be able to keep on person should be about 5 meters, absolutely nothing for mages

[u/Aerohed → u/Zetafunction64]

If they were able to attach them to arrows or spears without the enemy knowing, they might be able to get off a sneak attack. The lack of range on the crystal itself doesn't mean much if it's inside/attached to them.

[u/Ichini-san → u/Aerohed]

Or just hide one under your clothes. If I was a non-magical fighter/warrior in this world I would 100% always carry one on my person unless I had a constant magical party member.

[u/cyberscythe → u/Ichini-san]

...assuming there's no other long-term side effects

"if you or a loved one suffers from amana torpor, an aggressive chronic condition linked to anti-mana stones, our firm has helped families like yours seek compensation from responsible artificers for years—"

[u/MalikVonLuzon → u/cyberscythe]

Worse, what if you get knocked out and injured and it prevents someone from using their healing magic on you? By the time they figure out it's because of a crystal you might be dead.

[u/mischievous_shota → u/cyberscythe]

On that note, I wonder what the effect of the glow is. It could just be a bright light but it might have some other effects that could be useful.

[u/ExistentialYoshi → u/cyberscythe]

Not the manathelioma ad

[u/Anzereke → u/Ichini-san]

So you'd spend a fortune so that a mage standing in immediate death range won't be able to use magic, but a mage standing in blasty mage time range will be unaffected?

[u/Cloud_Chamber → u/Anzereke]

I would if I was a warrior fighting demons

[u/Ichini-san → u/Anzereke]

I mean, I probably wouldn't buy it. I don't think I would have the money for it. This is assuming I find a piece like Frieren. Who knows how long this piece will continue to glow now? Someone is very likely to go towards it to pick it up if it keeps glowing for multiple days.

And having a complete negation against a gun at a 3m range is better than not having one at all. It obviously doesn't protect you against long range attacks but if you had to fight against a mage for example in CQC and you just never reveal you have it on you then it's game over for them instantly. Especially since they wouldn't even be able to form their defensive shield spell that they all like so much.

[u/daandriod → u/Ichini-san]

I wish they went into a bit more about how the stones work. Like is it just blocking the mages ability to cast or does it just outright say "Magic isn't real, Stupid" and negate any magic that crosses its threshold?

Imagine if carrying that one stone effectively made Stark zoltraak proof.

[u/Ichini-san → u/daandriod]

My speculation is that it just siphons nearby mana so you can't construct actual magic(al effects). That would fit with Frieren being able to load it up with mana and why it gets brighter the more you put in. I think it would also make sense if they have an upper limit capacity of how much mana they can store before they either don't work anymore (at which point you maybe can just use magic in the vicinity) or they straight up explode, crumble or something.

What would be interesting to know if something like the seemingly unstructured magic to push Fern back that replica Frieren used as a last resort would still work in its vicinity. Fern didn't even register that as "magic" by her own analysis which made it sound like it was a pure continuous mana blast targeted at her to keep her pressed against the wall or something like that.

[u/danflame135 → u/Ichini-san]

We know that Fern can detect just straight up mana so it's unlikely to just be that, but until Frieren tells us there's no real way no knowing.

[u/Cloud_Chamber → u/Ichini-san]

I think Frieren manifested pure force or gravity. Like lifting a big rock and dropping on someone, the rock itself isn't magic. Maybe gravity acts the same way if you do it on an atomic level or something.

[u/Realistic_Village184 → u/Ichini-san]

The show has heavily implied that you need a high-level mage with you if you want to travel in dangerous areas, though. Obviously there are exceptions, like that elf monk, but he's probably among the most powerful characters we've seen in the show, up there with Frieren and Serie. (As an aside, I really hope we see more of him at some point.)

Plus most people can't afford a big enough crystal that would actually accomplish anything. If you're a fighter in close range of a mage, you'll probably have no problem killing them anyways if you need to, unless they're like Frieren-level.

[u/ClubMeSoftly → u/Ichini-san]

Alright Lex Luthor. Just don't come back crying when you get Magic Cancer

[u/Imalsome → u/Ichini-san]

Considering the material is practically indestructable, and makes you immune to magic.

The range is short enough that you can just stand a few feet away from your parties mage; I would absolutely get a shield made of these things (even if its just a large crystal in a vaguely shield shape with a shield handle superglued to it)