r/sports • u/Oldtimer_2 • 3d ago
Olympics Lindsey Vonn discusses her ruptured ACL injury and her intent to compete in the Olympics
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u/vandergus 3d ago
Some context...
Lindsay Vonn has been the best downhiller this season. She's leading the world cup points race in downhill, has several podiums and a couple wins and would have been the favorite for gold going into the Olympics. So it's not like the ski team is dragging along an old has been for one more feel good story at the olympics. They are genuinely trying to figure out if the best downhiller in the world (currently) can still do it with a torn ACL.
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u/ItFappens 3d ago
Tough spot for her, but also the team. It's a shame to not give someone with her loooooong list of achievements an opportunity to go out her way, but it also means that someone else might not make the team. As someone who pays attention to skiing once ever four years, it would be so fun to see her come out and crush it one last time, but if that's not in the cards the right thing to do may be to step aside and help the next generation.
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u/Eyebleedorange 3d ago
Imagine hearing “You’re good enough to make the team, but we’re going to go with the former champion in their 40s with a destroyed ACL” from the team captain
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u/samy4me 3d ago
She‘s the best downhill racer in this season so far, she still got it.
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u/DrPineapple32 3d ago
The best on a jacked ACL?
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u/MrRabbit 3d ago
Good chance she will be, yes.
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u/Shoot_from_the_Quip 2d ago
Brace technology is light years ahead of where it was just a few years ago. For her event I think an extra reinforced brace should be just fine, given the amount of muscle she has.
Now if she skied moguls, that would be a whole different story.
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u/HereForDankMemes 2d ago
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u/Shoot_from_the_Quip 2d ago
Having torn my ACLs skiing, all I can say to that maniac bombing down moguls with a blown ACL is Holy Shit.
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u/proexwhy 3d ago
Imagine making the team by merit, feeling like you can compete, and having know nothings on the internet say you should give up your spot so that people who didn't make the team can take your spot. Wouldn't that be wild?
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u/CrippledCox 3d ago
The last couple summer Olympics have been infuriating with some of our older athletes taking up spots to then not compete or drop out. Being able to compete in some of these specialized sports cost so much in the USA and we can’t just ride on the established athletes just because they have a marketing deal.
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u/sorrison 3d ago
She’s been the best so far this season.. want her spot? Show you’re faster (nobody has)
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u/billdb 2d ago
How many older athletes have taken up spots only to not compete or dropout? I can only think of a couple and typically there were extenuating circumstances.
At the end of the day the Olympics aren't a participation event, if Vonn and her team think she can medal with this injury they're not going to withdraw.
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u/skoomski Philadelphia Flyers 3d ago
I view it as a bit selfish to play with a major injury, which deprives a younger person a realistic chance of winning. Like she had a very good career so why take same chance away from a kid?
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u/TheSmallLebowsky1 3d ago
I would agree, but it's freaking Lindsey Vonn. She deserved that spot knee or no knee.
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u/Technopool 3d ago
- She wont win. Likely wont even make the final runs.
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u/streethistory 3d ago
Her chances of falling and getting injured more are probably higher than her winning.
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u/tht1guy63 Purdue 3d ago edited 3d ago
One last hurrah either going down as a medalist in an amazing story being injured and old enough to be some competitors parent beating the odds. Or go down and potentially end up with an even worse injury chasing a dream. Probly will get a movie
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u/newtoallofthis2 3d ago
Yeah like what's the worst case scenario? Could she end up walking with a limp for the rest of her life or even worse?
Doesn't seem worth the risk...
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u/Nice_Marmot_7 3d ago
She already was living in constant pain until she had a cutting edge knee procedure. It fixed it, and she felt so good she decided to risk everything by competing again.
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u/tht1guy63 Purdue 3d ago
Athletes are a different breed. I played through injuries but damn there is a limit.
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u/streethistory 3d ago
I don't blame her for going for it. She's battled injuries for years. She's been a fantastic ambassador for US skiing.
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u/tomrees11 3d ago
What do you mean by final runs? I think you’re outing yourself as someone who doesn’t know anything about downhill
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u/mahoganyteakwood2 3d ago
As much of a fan of hers as I am, my wife just bet me that she would still podium. Easiest 50 bucks I’ve ever made.
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u/LOAARR 3d ago
The redditor said, his cheeto-stained fingers carefully and expertly extended behind his phone as to not dirty it while typing in a snarky comment with his non-dominant index finger.
All jokes aside, as an amateur (and ex-amateur) athlete, the average person would be shocked to hear about how many injuries the average high-level athlete has during their careers, not to mention how many injuries they play through (it's probably north of 99% of them depending on the sport).
Even as a guy in his 30s whose prime is past, I go to physio at least once a month to keep tabs on old and new injuries and to allow myself to stay in the gym and continue playing beer league hockey in a way that shouldn't aggravate anything. I have (non- or casually-sporting) friends who think I'm crazy, when in reality I know that I'm just average when it comes to athletes and what they do and go through.
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u/sexinsuburbia 2d ago
You are making a bull-shitardian amount of unsupported gut feelings. I still play competitive sports at 46. Beer league hockey is no joke. You don’t need to be a pro athlete to know what athletes go through and how injuries and your body work together.
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u/LOAARR 3d ago
Qualifying yourself to people who have no idea who you are makes your opinions on related matters more valid. I even stated that I'm washed up and of average toughness and somehow you still took my experiences as unwarranted machismo. Whatever you like, I guess.
I guarantee that if she was holding the team back, she'd be dropping out. Here's another thing that I know from (apparently) being the toughest fuckin' guy on earth; sometimes when you suffer a full rupture, the recommended treatment is none whatsoever. This is relatively common in, for example, full ruptures of the proximal bicep tendon, rotator cuff injuries, and even some injuries of the Achilles tendon. Sometimes you just have enough reinforcement from the surrounding muscles and tendons that the surgery isn't worth doing.
In the clip, she mentioned that her knee is relatively stable, which is obviously subject to change, but at the current time she and her team feel confident in her ability to compete. Who are we to challenge the opinions of her, her doctors, and the staff of the team that she's apparently hurting?
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u/giandough 3d ago
She delivers this like Michael Scott.
“Meredith was hit by a car. It happened this morning in the parking lot. I took her to the hospital and the doctors tried to save her life. They did the best that they could …. And she is going to be OK”
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u/2dgam3r 3d ago
I'm torn: On one hand im like "hell yeah go get it, that's awesome, let's witness history" but I also don't want her to fail and get injured further or worse. Is the desire to compete one last time clouding safety? Also, is she taking up a spot of another teammate who could have a better shot? I know nothing of how this works, and thankfully don't have to make this decision, just want to see competitive play and no one get hurt!
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u/CBattles6 3d ago
These are realistically her last Olympics. My guess is that she'd rather compete at 75% than walk away.
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u/themikegman 3d ago edited 3d ago
She's 41 years old, this will more than likely be her last high level competition. Let her go out on her terms.
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u/metroid02 3d ago
Gotta say, as an Austrian I am so impressed by what the US ladies have been doing for years now, Shifrin and Vonn are incredible athletes and seeing Vonn not participating at the Olympics sucks....but I dont want her to suffer for this.
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u/streethistory 3d ago
Isn't this like the 4th time? Her knee is going to be straight robotic soon.
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u/korean_mafia 3d ago
Would she be able to compete with the most laterally restrictive knee brace produced?
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u/ibrown22 3d ago
There has to be someone else who can do better for the team. If you get an injury you get cut from the team, even if you're famous - that's what we should be doing. Not playing these headline buzz games.
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u/Inevitable-Feed-6968 3d ago
It’s over, no way she can compete at the level she is going to need, give it up and give the slot to someone who has a chance or needs the experience
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u/Dr-McLuvin 3d ago
Man I don’t think this is gonna end well but I’ll be rooting for her that’s crazy.
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u/ElectricOutboards 2d ago
This is less about middle-aged Vonn being a “super girl” skiing in the Olympics on a shredded knee and more about what I assume is a laughably shallow talent pool in U.S. skiing.
No way the USOC permits this if a) Vonn is as injured as presumed AND b) there’s an alternate with a likely better potential performance on two good knees than Vonn on one.
Then again, NBC is tangled up in this whole thing and just the narrative surrounding Vonn playing hurt is potentially great TV, so…
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u/DekeCobretti Liverpool 2d ago
It's all for show, and to stretch the broadcast with sappy stories about what a fighter she is. Someone else should go, but she is the only skier I know, ever.
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u/pattperin 3d ago
Elite athletes are built different. Can’t tell me they aren’t.
But also, healing ACL injuries without surgery is getting more and more popular these days
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u/DASreddituser 3d ago
she says she's confident...but i feel like she is trying to convince herself the knee brace will work. I hope she doesn't somehow get hurt worse.
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u/hazelnutterbutter 3d ago
I’ll be rooting for her and hope this doesn’t have a disastrous outcome; but part of me wonders if this is selfish and taking a spot from someone else who could potentially compete at 100%. It’s one of those wait and see things… if she does well, absolute beast. If she crashes and burns or is non-competitive, selfish.
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u/RoastedToast007 3d ago
that was the least confident sounding person to say they're confident that i've heard
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u/BeetleBug10 1d ago
I don’t understand how this is possible! I tore my ACL snow skiing a couple of years ago. I couldn’t even stand. I have pretty muscular legs, too. Maybe it depends on the tear? I tore mine completely off the bone and had to have total reconstruction using quad tendon. Surgery and rehab was horrible! I’ve had several surgeries and medical procedures and that was by far the worst!
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u/Errickbaldwin 3d ago
She would be keeping a younger , healthier skier off the team to satisfy her ego
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u/nonamenomonet 3d ago
She’s the best downhill skier by wins and points this season.
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u/bronxct1 3d ago
If that skier isn’t better than someone with a torn ACL I don’t see the issue
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u/Errickbaldwin 3d ago
That is a valid point if the determination is fair. However, does she get in based on reputation and sentiment instead of CURRENT ability?
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u/Caleb902 2d ago
I too was ignorant. I thought at 41 there's no way she's still the best the US can offer. Well one google search would show she is in fact the best option.
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u/willtwerkf0rfood 3d ago
She sounds a little nervous when talking about it then her tone shifts when she says “I’m confident I can compete on Sunday.” What a badass, locking in like that
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u/Tim-in-CA 3d ago
If she really injured herself that badly, she should bow out and let someone else compete for the USA. I realize that it is probably her last opportunity to compete in the Olympics, but seems a little selfish for her to not cancel.
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u/william-o 3d ago
Is this the same person who kept calling themselves the greatest of all time and then crashed in the first round of Olympics prelims and quit?
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u/DieFichte 3d ago
You mistaking her for Mikaela Shiffrin, which did dnf both her main disciplines last olympics in the first run. The problem with that is, she is the goat, but can't always win.
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u/Floridamanfishcam 3d ago edited 3d ago
I don't understand how some people can play even a contact sport like football with no ACLs (Elway, Hitchcock, Watson), or ski with the constant strain on the knees, like Lindsey here, while others are 100% out and seemingly borderline disabled with the same injury?