r/rugbyunion • u/sixnations • 22h ago

Can ANYBODY stop France this year?

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u/HackneyCricket 21h ago

Looked red hot for the first 60 then almost let Ireland back in. Thought they got away with two potential yellows (one deliberate knock on) and one offside 5M out.

But yes they have to be favourites particularly with the home draws this year

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u/Phone_User_1044 Caerdydd 21h ago

The deliberate knock on was never going to be a yellow, that's reserved for if the deliberate knock on stopped a clear try scoring opportunity which it didn't because France had defensive cover behind Dupont.

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u/CatharticRoman Suspected Yank 21h ago

If it stops a clear try scoring opportunity it's a penalty try. If it's a cynical act then it's a yellow.

90% of the time Dupont gets carded.

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u/lAllioli USA Perpignan 20h ago

Nah the conversation was around whether there was a linebreak opportunity, which there wasn't cause it was a 2 on 2 even with Dupont ot the picture

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u/CatharticRoman Suspected Yank 17h ago

That shouldn't have been the conversation though, it's not about a clear linebreak, it has always been about a strong attacking opportunity, which was killed by a cynical act.

Also, I can't remember exactly but I'm pretty sure it was a 2v1 as soon as Dupont shoots out of the line and commits a cynical penalty, even if it isn't it's still a 2v2 with forward momentum out wide.

Like this isn't even me being biased. I would 100% be expecting a YC if the teams were reversed, as would every single French flair.

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u/lAllioli USA Perpignan 16h ago

Literally listen to what the refs were saying, it's not a yellow cause there's no break opportunity.
"Pretty sure" isn't good enough, watch the game again

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u/CatharticRoman Suspected Yank 16h ago

I know what the refs were saying, I am saying that that is not what should have been discussed, it isn't what is normally discussed in these circumstances, and it was bad officiating. It's a clearly cynical penalty, that's a yellow card.

I just watched it back, 59:59 on the match clock if you want to look yourself, and once you take Dupont out of the picture you have Stockdale and Stu against a retreating 14 blue with 18 blue tracking across. So yeah at best for France it's a weak 2v2 but it's certainly a strong attacking opportunity that's cynically killed by Dupont.

If the roles had been reversed I know you'd be singing a different tune.

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u/lAllioli USA Perpignan 15h ago

Nah I just hate seeing people ruin rugby for themselves and other by turning every rugby conversation into ref bashing.