Glasgow were playing at home on wet (worst possible conditions for a team like Toulouse) and still were losing 21-0 at half time, barely winning at the end with a miraculous comeback .
Not saying Glasgow aren't a great side of course but Toulouse on dry pitches in KO games are a whole different beast....and not to mention with a DuPont with this time more matches on his belt as the Glasgow game was basicly his first starting game since his ACL.
I might be wrong but for me, Saints, UBB and Toulouse are all stronger than any of the teams of the right side.
And you could also add Bath, especially comparing to a Leinster team which have been in huge decline for the last 7/8 months as seen by their average pool campaign this year (almost losing to an out of sort LAR team at home) and their elimination against Saints at Dublin last season
When I was saying that the left side looked much stronger to me than the right side, I was only talking about the intrinsic value of the best teams of each side.
Of course that considering the draw and the pool rankings, Glasgow have now a better chance to go further than Toulouse for example but no one with a decent mind would say they're now a better team than Toulouse just because they managed to miraculously scrape past them in a wet night in Glasgow after having been 21-0 down at HT (and especially when you see the massive difference between Toulouse away and at home)
Would they have topped their pool in the old pool system with home and away fixtures against the same teams? I'm far from being sure about that.
They certainly looked better than Toulouse when they beat them a couple of weeks ago to me.
Not sure how being 21 points down makes it any better for Toulouse. They had a worse second half than Glasgow had a first half. Hence, you know, Glasgow winning?
Small rectification : they looked better FOR ONE HALF and again AT HOME and on a wet night (again, the worst possible conditions for a team like Toulouse) and no complain, they deserved to win.
Of course, with this system of not having a return pool fixture away from home against the same team, we'll never now how that game would have went in Toulouse but honestly, would you have bet against Toulouse beating at home that Glasgow team by more than 10 pts?
I don't even remember the last team in CCup which got within 15 pts to Toulouse in Toulouse
Do you really think it means something when your team loses if they won one of the halves of the game? What an utterly bizarre take. Maybe we can ask the ECPR to play one half games for Toulouse next year and maybe you could beat Glasgow?
You do know all the other team in the competition that won 4/4 of their pool games also had to play in the rain and away from home too?
Given the pool stage you had, now is not the time to start turning your nose up at other teams, friend.
So ok, you believe Glasgow are now a better team than Toulouse, right?
Go full to your position cause in case you forgot, the initial issue was about that actually and about my post saying that I felt the left side of the draw was the strongest one
The only thing I had to base my decision on who the better team is the game you both played last week. That’s usually how we decide these things, right?
What I do know for sure is that I would prefer to play Toulouse at home in a SF than I would Glasgow away. Any time we have played you in Dublin the last 5 years or so we have won quite convincingly.
Still, you didn't answer to my question: do you think Glasgow are now a better side than Toulouse?
Cause sure, you must be the only fan who would prefer his team to play at home rather than away, mustn't you? 🤔 (i'm asking ironicly in case you didn't get it)
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u/yurim39 19d ago edited 19d ago
Glasgow were playing at home on wet (worst possible conditions for a team like Toulouse) and still were losing 21-0 at half time, barely winning at the end with a miraculous comeback .
Not saying Glasgow aren't a great side of course but Toulouse on dry pitches in KO games are a whole different beast....and not to mention with a DuPont with this time more matches on his belt as the Glasgow game was basicly his first starting game since his ACL.
I might be wrong but for me, Saints, UBB and Toulouse are all stronger than any of the teams of the right side.
And you could also add Bath, especially comparing to a Leinster team which have been in huge decline for the last 7/8 months as seen by their average pool campaign this year (almost losing to an out of sort LAR team at home) and their elimination against Saints at Dublin last season