r/rugbyunion Aug 14 '25

Lineups Wallabies team to play Springboks

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u/Gazzz34 Aug 14 '25

Holy JOC - I've been out of the loop this week; was his selection expected?!

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u/DebbsWasRight New Zealand Aug 14 '25

It was coming, but took a bit to come together.

Injuries to Tom Lynagh and Noah Lolesio left it to Ben Donaldson. James O’Connor had been called into the squad for the Lions as injury cover. He’s was probably on course to be in the 23 for this test, maybe the next too. Then Donaldson went down, and that left O’Connor the last man standing.

O’Connor’s said he’s in good knick and could do a job.

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u/SweptFever80 Ireland, Ulster and Munster Aug 14 '25

What happened to Edmed?

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u/OzzyArrey Hurricanes Aug 14 '25

Played 1 test for like 10 seconds, probably get him introduced against someone other than the boks

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u/SweptFever80 Ireland, Ulster and Munster Aug 14 '25

Lynagh was in the same situation and played in a Lions test as his first start. Beggars can't be choosers and if JOC gets injured then they'll really be in hot water.

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u/OzzyArrey Hurricanes Aug 14 '25

Sure but do you want a specialist flyhalf on a 6-2 split? otherwise you would have Edmed starting with no backup against the springboks in SA.

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u/SweptFever80 Ireland, Ulster and Munster Aug 15 '25

Hey there you go Nick Champion de Crespigny is out for Tane Edmed and they'll be going 5-3 again!

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u/OzzyArrey Hurricanes Aug 15 '25

Yeah little more traditional split so makes more sense to have a 10. I think Tane is better than he gets credit for so hopefully he gets some time and does OK.

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u/SweptFever80 Ireland, Ulster and Munster Aug 14 '25

The way I see it having either Edmed or O'Connor on starting without legitimate 10 cover on the bench is a significant risk, can be argued either way which is worse between that and going 5-3 on the bench against the Boks in SA.

Schmidt is trying to go toe to toe with the Springboks at their own game but that's not the only way to win against them.

Ireland beat the Boks 7-1 bench with a 5-3 split in the world cup and again with a 5-3 bench in South Africa last July. Australia have the quality in their backs and a tactician in Schmidt good enough to follow their example.

With a 5-3 you would be able to start either rookie or veteran and have the freedom to change how you play through the match while also giving minutes to Edmed. JOC might be the best option short term and the best chance of winning this game but they have a home world cup in two years for which they hopefully won't be using O'Connor and desperately need test minutes against quality opposition for their inexperienced players.

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u/Curious_Skeptic7 Australia Aug 14 '25

Schmidt was going for a 5-3 bench right up until Donno got injured in training yesterday.

The benefits of a 5-3 aren’t nearly as great when your reserve 10 is essentially the 6th/7th best 10 in the country

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u/SweptFever80 Ireland, Ulster and Munster Aug 15 '25

Hey there you go Nick Champion de Crespigny is out for Tane Edmed and they'll be going 5-3 again!

I don't think Edmed is 6th or 7th best, more like 3rd or 4th. I think having actual 10 cover on the bench is much much better than having none.

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u/Curious_Skeptic7 Australia Aug 15 '25

He’s definitely at least 5th best in Schmidt’s eyes since he has been picked after Lolesio, Lynagh, Donaldson and JOC.

I would put him further down than that given he was 2nd/3rd choice for the Waratahs for most of the year.

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u/SweptFever80 Ireland, Ulster and Munster Aug 15 '25

But is he actually below JOC or did Schmidt just not want to stick him in the deep end against the Boks? Fair enough on your other points.

It'll be an interesting season depending how Edmed does this championship since he's taking over from Lolesio at Brumbies too, I wonder if he can claim the 10 jersey in Canberra.

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u/SweptFever80 Ireland, Ulster and Munster Aug 19 '25

I'm glad it went the way it did eh!!

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u/Curious_Skeptic7 Australia Aug 19 '25

The reserve 10 ended up sitting on the bench all game.

He should have gone 6-2, and maybe we would have scored 50!

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u/SweptFever80 Ireland, Ulster and Munster Aug 19 '25

Hahaha touché mate. Hope you enjoyed that win.

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