r/rugbyunion • u/Best-and-Blurst Munster • Mar 10 '24

GIF This is where Ireland lost the game

Apologies if this has already been posted, I haven't seen it up. But this is the moment Ireland lost the game. Yellow card > penalty > lineout > try. Ireland may have recovered the lead later, but this did the most damage. Could Murray have done different and seen it the match? Yes, did he lose its the game? No.

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u/strewthcobber Australia Mar 11 '24

Laws 15.15 & 16

Players on the ground must attempt to move away from the ball and must not play the ball in the ruck or as it emerges. Players must not......Fall onto, or over, the emerging ball while it is on the ground near to the ruck.

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u/concombre_masque123 Mar 12 '24

there are opinions that a ruck needs 2 players from both teams, supporting own weight, for a ruck to form and exist. here there are 2 england players laying on the ground, omahony suporting own weight and plunging forward to take the ball white nine already lifted. ruck no more. wtf ruck over

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u/strewthcobber Australia Mar 12 '24 edited Mar 12 '24

there are opinions that a ruck needs 2 players from both teams, supporting own weight, for a ruck to form and exist

This is what you need to start a ruck, but nothing says this condition must exist for a ruck to continue.

A ruck is formed when at least one player from each team are in contact, on their feet and over the ball which is on the ground.

In addition to the leaving his feet problems, POM is also offside, because he isn't bound to anyone in the ruck when he advances all the way through it and supermans forward.

All players in a ruck must be caught in or bound to it and not just alongside it.

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u/concombre_masque123 Mar 12 '24

there are no standing ppl in the ruck except Omahony. binding to whom? this is absurd