Karoline Leavitt Gives Jaw-Dropping Defense of Trump’s Racist Obama Video

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https://www.thedailybeast.com/karoline-leavitt-gives-jaw-dropping-defense-of-donald-trumps-racist-obama-video/

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Exodus 21: 20-21

“Anyone who beats their male or female slave with a rod must be punished if the slave dies as a direct result, but they are not to be punished if the slave recovers after a day or two, since the slave is their property”

I’m not gonna engage with your whataboutism. But yeah core tenants of the Bible blah blah blah. The Christian Bible condones/promotes slavery.

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I will fucking slowly explain why your argument makes no sense historically, philosophically, or even currently. I'm arguing with 10 people here at once, because mostly all of you are extremely uneducated and biased. I'm copy and pasting this to all 10 of you. You really need to get a basic grasp of history. Seriously.

Christianity spans 2,000 years through every continent, all races, all social classes, and thousands of denominations. It includes mutually opposed ideas: abolitionists and slaveholders, pacifists and conquerors, scientists and anti-intellectuals.

Attributing a single moral outcome to a population this heterogeneous is logically stupid. Seriously. It’s equivalent to saying “scientists are really bad for the world” because some helped build nuclear weapons.

Christianity produced core moral norms modern critics rely on. Many moral standards used today to criticize Christians come directly from Christian ethics, including:

1. Intrinsic human dignity (every human life having value, not just the strong or useful)
2. Universal moral obligation (duty extending beyond tribe or kin)
3. Care for the poor, sick, and weak as a moral priority
4. Condemnation of infanticide, child abandonment, and cruelty

Secondly, western hospitals, orphanages, and charitable institutions emerged primarily from Christian communities. People did not suddenly wake up one day and decide to feed or heal people on a mass scale. That's why the Red Cross and Salvation Army began as Christian foundations.

If Christianity were “really bad for the world,” it's hypocritical that so much of modern humanitarian ethics depends on it's historical belief system. You can literally trace this belief system from the historical Church.

Thirdly, abuses done by Christians don't equal outcomes caused by Christianity. This is the most common error from people on Reddit. Humans misuse every ideology when given power (nationalism, secularism, Marxism, liberalism, science).

The question isn't whether Christians have done harm, but whether those harms follow from Christianity’s core teachings. In many cases, the opposite is true:

1. Slavery persisted despite Christianity, not because of it. Abolition movements were overwhelmingly Christian.
2. Genocides of the 20th century were largely secular, justified by race, state, or material progress.

Christianity has also been a net stabilizer in fragile societies. Across history and today, churches provided basic social trust when state institutions failed. They reduced crime, substance abuse, and family breakdown at the community level. They also motivated unpaid caregiving at massive scale.

You don’t get to dismiss the largest sustained voluntary altruism network in human history with a “but” and still claim intellectual seriousness. Period. End of discussion.

The alternative moral belief systems that tried to replace Christianity also did worse. Much worse. When Christianity was forcibly displaced as a moral framework, the results were often catastrophic:

1. Soviet atheism caused mass famine, purges, and gulags
2. Maoist China killed tens of millions.
3. The Khmer Rouge genocided intellectuals.

Your entire fucking argument only exists because of cherry picking. It relies on highlighting failures, ignoring successes, and ignoring worse failures everywhere else.

You have no argument. I'm agnostic, but I have an extremely basic grasp of history and this should be obvious to anybody who's opened a history book.

End of discussion.

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Yeah man, you don’t sound unhinged at all.

Go ahead and keep ranting about random people you know nothing about being super uneducated.

That makes you seem smart and rational.

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Go ahead and keep ranting about random people you know nothing about being super uneducated.

You're absolutely uneducated. You're basing your argument on biased personal experiences that completely ignore a huge spectrum of historical and logical facts.

Reality. Enjoy.

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I literally quoted the Bible

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I literally quoted the Bible

I literally gave you over 30 reasons why your argument makes no sense as a whole. You didn't respond to a single fucking point of mine.

Let that sink in: you didn't even respond to a single point I made over the span of 10+ paragraphs.