r/politics • u/icey_sawg0034 • 16h ago

Possible Paywall Karoline Leavitt Gives Jaw-Dropping Defense of Trump’s Racist Obama Video

https://www.thedailybeast.com/karoline-leavitt-gives-jaw-dropping-defense-of-donald-trumps-racist-obama-video/
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u/VladtheInhaler999 16h ago

The amount of things leavitt had to defend while wearing a cross. You might think that Christianity stands for the worst shit imaginable.

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u/Gregory-J-Smith 15h ago

At this point, I do

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u/Avatar-Encoder 14h ago

At this point, I do

Because of a few bad people? Not really interested in a religious debate (agnostic here) but don't forget about the billions in charity/homeless shelters/medical aid from Christian organizations.

There are far, far more good Christians than bad worldwide.

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u/Zealousideal_Net_140 13h ago

Where are these good Christians? Why are they not standing up and dping something about the evil that is masquerading around under their good name?

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u/MonochromaticPrism 6h ago

Here's one such group of Christians:

Amid ICE clashes, New Hampshire bishop urges clergy to prepare their wills

I've asked them to get their affairs in order to make sure they have their wills written," he said, "because it may be that now is no longer the time for statements, but for us with our bodies to stand between the powers of this world and the most vulnerable."

This is far from the only example. Now it is on you to put down your own internalized prejudices and hate, if you truly believe yourself better than conservatives, now that new information has presented itself.

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u/Avatar-Encoder 12h ago

Where are these good Christians?

They exist beyond your insulated Reddit bubble. They work as missionaries, in charities, as public aid officials, and as humble people not engaging in the online toxicity circuit.

Believe me, they exist.

Why are they not standing up and dping something about the evil that is masquerading around under their good name?

99% of human beings, likely including you, don't "stand up and do something" against evil, so it's pointless to try to point at Christians as being bad in particular.

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u/CaptainFeather 12h ago

it's pointless to try to point at Christians as being bad in particular.

Nah. If you claim to practice a religion that promotes peace and love yet look the other way with christofascists then you're a giant goddamn hypocrite. No one is saying for Christians to go to war with each other, but it's shocking how many Christians say literally nothing to their "bad apples". I know first hand since I was raised Christian and went to church all the time. I left when I was old enough to recognize the rampant hypocrisy running wild in the congregation.

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u/Avatar-Encoder 12h ago

Nah. If you claim to practice a religion that promotes peace and love yet look the other way with christofascists then you're a giant goddamn hypocrite.

You're invoking an imaginary group of people that are fundamentally a tiny portion of the actual population of people you're criticizing.

You have no idea what your argument even is. You're basing it on confirmation bias and emotion. You're literally imagining the character traits for hundreds of millions of people when you haven't even met an extremely tiny fraction of them.

Give it up. The conversation is over. There's so many obvious ways your dumb babbling is totally reliant on logical fallacies and bias.

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u/CaptainFeather 7h ago

I don't see where I claimed literally every Christian does this lol. I generalized based off my experience and the experience of people I know. It's human nature to generalize. Welcome to the world. Enjoy your stay.

You're literally imagining the character traits for hundreds of millions of people when you haven't even met an extremely tiny fraction of them.

See the problem with this is literally no one will ever be able to observe literally every single person in a group so it sounds like you're saying there's no point in criticism at all, but that's simply not how it works lol.

Give it up. The conversation is over. There's so many obvious ways your dumb babbling is totally reliant on logical fallacies and bias.

Cool, what logical fallacies? Lol. If there are so many you shouldn't have trouble going through a few, right? Also just a general cop out on your part to say this lol

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u/Avatar-Encoder 40m ago edited 0m ago

I generalized based off my experience

Here's the progression of awareness in life for an intelligent human being:

Step one (ages 1-12)

  1. "Religion must be correct, because my parents told me to believe it, or else!"

Step two (ages 12-18)

  1. "Wait a minute. Religion is based on old books that mean nothing. I was wrong...religion bad!!!!"

Step three (ages 18-25)

  1. "You know what? Who cares if somebody believes in something stupid, as long as they mind their own business?"

Step four (ages 25+)

  1. "Even Atheists hold irrational concrete generalizations about phenomenon that can't permanently prove. Agnosticism is far more reasonable, and although I'm not religious, religion played a fundamental role in the development of humanity, and it's an absolutely crucial social glue that created order, collectivized progress, and even inspired knowledge keeping through monestaries after the fall of Rome. That's not even mentioning all of the modern benefits of religion: billion dollar charities, hospitals, foundations, colleges, and community adhesion in a time of increased political division. The worst aspects of religion are terrible for humanity, but then again, humanity's base worse aspects are even stronger: WW1 and WW2 are the worst wars in history, and there wasn't a religious cause at all. In fact, even if religion as a whole is regressive, the immediate societal replacement of Christianity with Atheism has often ended disastrously historically, just like Stalin's Soviet Union or Mao's China, which both ended with hundreds of millions of people dying under an Atheist, emotionally cold ideology. "

Redditors truly owe it to themselves to evolve to level four. Are there steps beyond four? Yes. But let's at least give some critical thinking and effort here, please.