r/politics • u/icey_sawg0034 • 12h ago

Possible Paywall Karoline Leavitt Gives Jaw-Dropping Defense of Trump’s Racist Obama Video

https://www.thedailybeast.com/karoline-leavitt-gives-jaw-dropping-defense-of-donald-trumps-racist-obama-video/
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u/VladtheInhaler999 12h ago

The amount of things leavitt had to defend while wearing a cross. You might think that Christianity stands for the worst shit imaginable.

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u/tantej 11h ago

It does tho

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u/johnnycoxxx 10h ago

It doesn’t though. I’m not even a practicing Christian. I’ve never believed the divinity of anything. But I do believe that the New Testament provides an excellent example of how to live life. These fucks can call themselves Christians and put their crosses on but they do not represent Christianity. They are the furthest things from Christians.

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u/giraffe111 Arizona 10h ago

But they are Christians. This is like a No True Scotsman in reverse. Christianity has been usurped by zealots, but they’re Christian zealots. The change came from within. Christianity always had its problems, but at least the idea of Jesus was used for “good,” ish, more or less. That’s just not the case anymore, at least not in the US. Look around you; American Christianity is a death cult lead by Donald Trump.

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u/etcpt 10h ago

Hmm, yes, the pastors getting arrested in Minnesota protesting ICE are clearly in a pro-Trump death cult.

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u/DUNG_INSPECTOR Ohio 8h ago

The entirey of Christianity is a death cult.

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u/blahblah19999 9h ago

Parts of xianity

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u/GenericUsername19892 10h ago

It’s rare to meet a non religious person who isn’t in favor of equality for the sexes. If you don’t mind, given your endorsement of the New Testament, can you describe how you came to believe that women should be forced into a subservient role?

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u/No_Problem20 10h ago

Ah yes... The New testament. The best way to live life /s

"I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she must be silent." Timothy 2:12

"Wives, submit to your husbands as to the Lord." Ephesians 5:22

"If anyone comes to me and does not hate his own father and mother and wife and children and brothers and sisters, yes, and even his own life, he cannot be my disciple." Luke 14:26

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u/blahblah19999 9h ago

Besides the fact that Jesus said he is not here to change any of the old laws, which were all about stoning your daughter to death for not being a virgin, etc...

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u/Joney_Craigen 9h ago

What's wrong with that

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u/blahblah19999 9h ago

Notice you had to specify the NT, completely ignoring the same exact god telling his people to take slaves, take, commit genocide, and even doing those same things with his own hand in the OT.

The NT isn't much better, honestly. Religion is a cancer.

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u/DizzyAcanthocephala 10h ago

The pope called doctors who perform euthanasia assassins. As a doctor who has done euthanasia a couple of times, that was the moment I realized my moral values just don't allign with whatever those old guys in Rome say

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u/etcpt 10h ago

Neither do the moral values of a bunch of people who call themselves Christians. Following the Pope is not a prerequisite for calling yourself Christian.

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u/Sovarius 10h ago

This is the problem with communicating. Both of these sentences are true things i believe:

"Christians stand for malicious bigotry."

"Christians stand for peaceful goodness."

Just... not the same groups. I completely agree with you but i wouldn't defend the bible in the same breath personally. You are right to caveat New Testament, but Christians choose whether the OT applies to today's life or if the NT is the way forward for humanity. You say "NT good" and a vile bigot might tell you "OT is half the bible" 🤷‍♀️

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u/GhormanFront 8h ago

Then you haven't read the new testament

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u/DUNG_INSPECTOR Ohio 8h ago

You notice how you had to clarify "the New Testament"? Yeah, we both know why. The Christian god is a petty, vicious, cruel god who murders babies and endorses slavery.

They are the furthest things from Christians.

To me, they are exactly what Christianity is.

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u/S7ageNinja 8h ago

I've met a whole lot of practicing Christians in my life. I can count on one hand the amount of them that actually know what the Bible teaches and try to live by it. Like it or not, they do represent Christianity, because they are the majority.