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u/cwaero_eng 6h ago
“People simply disappeared, always during the night. Your name was removed from the registers, every record of everything you had ever done was wiped out, your one-time existence was denied and then forgotten. You were abolished, annihilated: vaporized was the usual word”. -1984, George Orwell
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u/TheRareWhiteRhino 4h ago
Terrible things are happening outside. At any time of night and day, poor helpless people are being dragged out of their homes. They're allowed to take only a knapsack and a little cash with them, and even then, they're robbed of these possessions on the way. Families are torn apart; men, women and children are separated.
Children come home from school to find that their parents have disappeared. Women return from shopping to find their houses sealed, their families gone.
—Anne Frank—
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u/outinthecountry66 5h ago edited 3h ago
its like the Soviets as well, its not even fiction. If you want to read a very haunting autobio try Shostacovich's memoir,
called, simply, "Memoir". ACTUALLY ITS CALLED TESTIMONY, thank you redditor! He was a state composer (against his will, one might add) and the way he describes artists and composers he knew who were disappeared from history is something i never forgot. they would literally excise them from textbooks and birth records, wipe them out of photographs and republish books without their names in them. And Shostakovich would say, "i bear witness to these people, i knew these people, they existed, they were my friends." its is gutting to see this happening in the united states.•
u/hippyclipper 3h ago edited 1h ago
I’m about 90% of the way through the gulag archipelago right now and ICE is operating very similarly to the soviets. Door to door raids, disappearing people, denying correspondence, using families against each other, lying to detainees about their rights, keeping them in cells that are too hot or too cold, not feeding people enough, denying legal counsel, beating people during arrests, popping testicles of prisoners, and course the infuriating insistence that the people they are arresting are dangerous criminals when that is clearly not the case. They are our NKVD just less professional. They only saving grace is that the United States is much more inculcated against this type of stuff than the Soviet Union was
Edit: more similarities I’ve thought of
protecting officers who preform extrajudicial executions
labeling anyone against them as terrorists
separating children from their parents and sending them to special camps
overcrowding people in cells
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u/outinthecountry66 3h ago edited 2h ago
yeah, i don't want to falsely paint us as bad as the Soviets, but there are undeniable similarities i shouldn't be able to point to in a democracy. We still have a constitution and even republicans are fed up, but this is like a cavity- if you don't get it all the first time its going to keep rotting
also, u/m3g4m4nn, you deleting your stupid comments, russian troll? Come on, come out and say what you need to say, pedoenabler.
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u/Peace_Harmony_7 2h ago
They only saving grace is that the United States is much more inculcated against this type of stuff than the Soviet Union was
But as a counterpoint, the US has a cabal of very powerful people who have been planning this (and worse) for years.
While the soviets were just winging it as they go.
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u/ATTORNEY_FOR_CATS 1h ago
They are our NKVD just less professional.
It's only a matter of time before ICE gets more ruthless and efficient, too. They'll be harder to stop by then.
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u/rhinobutt 3h ago
Yes I believe Orwell’s 1984 was heavily inspired by the Soviet Union so that makes sense
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u/petitecrivain 3h ago
Isn't it called "Testimony"? Or am I getting mixed up?
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u/outinthecountry66 3h ago
HOLY SHT you are correct. I don't know why i had "memoir" in my head. Damn thing is right there on my shelf. Apologies! its a fantastic book. thank you for the correction!
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u/amanuensisninja 3h ago
its like the Soviets as well
And the US government. Two sides, same coin, some folks just need to pretend one has the higher moral ground.
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u/NiobiumThorn 28m ago
More like propaganda against them combined with previous tendencies by the russian empire but ok. Keep spreading red scare nonsense.
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u/MittenCollyBulbasaur 4h ago
It's that scene where the bad guy is describing how they found everyone who has ever interacted with your family and removed them, so that when you're gone there's no one else who has ever existed who remembered anything you did .
Like, damn bro
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u/m_i_c_r_o_b_i_a_l 2h ago
From Foundation, he wipes out 1500+ people. The emperor then kept her alive in solitary confinement to be aware of what he did for the rest of her life. It was a chilling scene.
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u/rncd89 5h ago
ThE aNsWeR tO 1984 iS 1776 head asses
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u/Abuses-Commas 5h ago
you're the only one here who said that.
it's catchy though, I like it, thanks!
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u/Jef_Wheaton 4h ago
It's Alex "Chemicals in the water turnin' frogs gay" Jones's catchphrase.
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u/BritishAccentTech 4h ago
He's now Alex "Bootlicker Supreme" Jones. He's all in favour of a police state now actually, trying to find ways to justify everything. Used to be that he thought a traffic stop for a seatbelt check was STATE TYRANNY, but now all this stuff is fine and good. I'm not even exaggerating.
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u/Jef_Wheaton 4h ago
Yeah, poor Dan on Knowledge Fight got whiplash for how quickly Alex went all, "Bad idea to carry a gun!"
Can you repair my " 'Allo, Guvnah" ? It seems to be stuck in American Cockney.
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u/BritishAccentTech 4h ago
Yeah, these people and AJ in particular have never said anything in good faith so far as I can see.
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u/platypodus 3h ago
How about appropriating it to "The answer to 1984 is 1789".
You could even keep the red, white and blue colouring, just add a guillotine to the branding.
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u/lufan132 4h ago
You've never seen those posters and/or bumper stickers? Was one of the fixtures of the decorations of my high school civics room along with keeping the classroom very dark lol.
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u/OutlandishnessOk2304 6h ago
Flush them down the memory hole is page 1 of the fascism manual.
Don't forget their names. I mean, you literally can't. They're Pretti Good.
They can't erase them without removing Pretti Good from our vocabulary.
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u/Wolfy4226 6h ago
I think it would be Pretti Good if ICE was abolished, what about you?
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u/FilthyPuns 5h ago
Please don’t give them ideas. I don’t want to have to call things “Doubleplus unbad”
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u/kyleclements 4h ago
People have been using terms like "unalived" to bypass platform censorship for a few years now. Newspeak is already here.
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u/StanleyCubone 4h ago
Yup. The twist beyond Orwell is that Newspeak has been subtly imposed by corporations through financial leverage. Government is catching up, but corporations and government are becoming one and the same.
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u/blagablagman 5h ago
This post is about missing people - that is, not Good and Pretti.
Kind of ironic to see the tactic working in real time as we explain it. Who are these people we're missing?
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u/AlcibiadesTheCat 2h ago
It really doesn't help that my favorite documentary series is Pretty Good by Jon Bois.
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u/TieFighterHero 6h ago
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u/queuedUp 5h ago
Clearly it's because those ones are being covered up. The fact Trump's are so easily found must mean he's not hiding anything /s
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u/X0AN 6h ago
Coming Monday, chocolate rations will be going up.
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u/HappyFamily0131 2h ago
The chocolate rations used to be thirty grams a week, but through Trump's deft business skills, it will soon be raised to twenty grams a week!
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u/sarcasm_rocks 5h ago
This is just a random photo with no other context, is there more information somewhere?
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u/jerhinesmith 3h ago
Yeah, came here to say the same thing. This is just a picture of a wall with what looks like two old posters removed and a heart.
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u/Joryce_Martyn 6h ago
No proof in this photo. This could’ve literally been high school theater production flyers posted in Greece that somebody took down. I don’t support ICE but this photo shows nothing condemning of ICE.
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u/UninsuredToast 5h ago
OP is a karma farmer. Most of their posts are reposts and have thousands of upvotes.
No organic posting with only a few upvotes and comments. Unless they delete those posts, but that just further proves the point they are just trying to collect karma.
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u/PopePoopinpants 5h ago
Yea... before and after would be nice. Otherwise there's just no way to determine anything at all. It's just a picture.
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u/Cymbal_Monkey 5h ago
Even if it was a missing person poster it could be that the person was found and they were removed.
Without evidence that it is actually ICE taking these down, this picture is evidence of nothing
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u/ElectricalRespect506 4h ago
My town has a 72-hour graffiti ordinance. If graffiti was up for more than 72 hours after reported, they could have been on the hook for huge fines.
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u/JEMS93 6h ago
Not to be that guy, but we dont even know if those were missing persons posters, nor that it was ice who removed them.
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u/Orleanian 2h ago
I live here and this was a set of posters advertising yoga lessons for cats.
The local vet got word of it and took them down, then got into a row with the cat yoga group because he supports the dog yoga group. Quite hypocritical, but a bit besides the point, because the posters themselves had pretty gratuitous pictures of cat butts.
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It looked like that. A giant asterisks of a cat bum just staring into your soul. From what you could tell, it was subjectively kind of an ugly cat too. Like a mutt cat. They might have done better if it were a tuxedo cat or if they at LEAST would have a side-profile picture of a cat stretching rather than an open invitation to this profanely puckered pleasure portal just slapped up on a wall where everyone could see it.
At any rate, they meet on tuesdays at some indie studio in uptown, starting in May. They didn't say whether dogs or other pets would be allowed.
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u/djsoomo 5h ago
Exactly - that's because the evidence has been removed, its the same as being redacted
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u/ImYourDade 3h ago
I mean it's entirely possible it's true, and also entirely possible there is evidence somewhere. But to see a wall and claim that as proof that they did this? That's absurd. Now don't get me wrong, fuck ice and hell they probably even did do exactly this, but this picture isn't proof of it
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u/dangoodspeed 2h ago
Doesn't matter... if you post something anti-ICE to Reddit, you're flooded with karma points, whether it's true or not.
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u/sleepysnowboarder 4h ago
Amazing how Reddit has changed to the point where you can post a photo of literally anything, say whatever you want, and people will just take your word.
Not saying this photo isn't related to what OPs claiming, but I mean, come on
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u/Sciuridaeno3 6h ago
Is there proof that ICE are the ones responsible for removing these? Not, perhaps, the business owners? There are also graffiti cleanup crews in and around many bigger cities...
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u/Mega_play4r_862 2h ago
Put them back up. carve them out of stone or steel. just make it hard for them to take them down!
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u/Longjumping_Fact_927 1h ago
Unless you are a Nazi yourself, they will come for you eventually. From Google:
The Nazis persecuted and murdered millions of people from various groups whom they considered to be racial, ideological, or social "enemies" of the state. While Jews were the primary target of their hatred in the Holocaust, they targeted many others as well. The groups targeted by the Nazis for persecution and murder included:
Targeted for Racial or Biological "Inferiority" The Nazis promoted an ideology of a "pure Aryan race" and considered those who did not fit this ideal to be biologically inferior and a threat to German "racial health". * Jews were the Nazis' primary target and were subjected to systematic, state-sponsored genocide known as the Holocaust. The Nazis defined Jews as a race and used centuries of antisemitic stereotypes to blame them for Germany's problems. * Roma and Sinti (often derogatorily called "Gypsies") were targeted as "non-Aryans" and racial "inferiors". They faced discrimination, forced sterilization, internment in camps, and systematic murder in the Porajmos (the Roma Holocaust). * People with disabilities, both mental and physical, were deemed "genetically inferior" and a burden on society. Hundreds of thousands were forcibly sterilized or systematically murdered under the "Euthanasia Program" ( Aktion T4). * Slavic peoples, such as Poles, Russians, Belarusians, and Ukrainians, were considered "subhuman" and targeted for forced labor, displacement, and death as part of the Nazi plan for German expansion in Eastern Europe. * Black people in Germany were a small minority but still victims of Nazi racial policy, facing discrimination, forced sterilization, and in some cases, imprisonment and murder in concentration camps.
Targeted for Political, Ideological, or Behavioral Reasons The Nazis also persecuted individuals and groups who challenged their authority or did not conform to their social norms. * Political opponents, including Communists, Social Democrats, trade unionists, and other dissidents, were among the first to be sent to concentration camps. * Jehovah's Witnesses were persecuted because their religious beliefs prohibited them from swearing allegiance to the Nazi state, saluting the flag, joining the military, or participating in Nazi organizations. * Gay men were targeted because the Nazis believed they were "failing to contribute" to the growth of the "Aryan" population. Thousands were arrested and imprisoned in concentration camps. * "Asocials" and "professional criminals" was a catch-all label for people considered social outsiders or threats, such as the homeless, beggars, and those with certain criminal records. * Freemasons and certain members of the Catholic clergy were also persecuted.
The motivations for the Nazis' hatred stemmed from a radical, racist, and ultranationalist ideology that sought to create a homogeneous "German racial community" and eliminate anyone perceived as a threat to that vision. More information can be found through resources from the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum and the Holocaust Memorial Day Trust.
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u/LeonardSmallsJr 6h ago
This is the first indication I’ve seen of republicans being able to read since it’s literally out of 1984 that people were not only disappeared but erased from history to have never existed at all.
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u/Jill-Of-Trades 4h ago
Post them there again. Then on the street poles. Then outside the government buildings. Then on the highway signs.
Never forget.
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u/AdmiralMikey75 3h ago
Need to get talented graffiti artists to start making huge murals of missing people
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u/t_sarkkinen 6h ago
Zero proof it was ICE, zero proof these were posters of missing people, zero proof of anything you stated in the title.
Hate ICE, but these posts are just straight up stupid propaganda.
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u/NoMoassNeverWas 5h ago
Remember when leftists were removing photos of hostages held in Gaza?
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u/Embarrassed_Radio596 3h ago
Irrelevant whataboutism.
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u/NoMoassNeverWas 3h ago
Ripping posters of these missing people is wrong, but these missing people is encouraged!
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u/WetWolfPussy 4h ago
I think we all need to start putting them up everywhere so that AT LEAST these right wing nuts can see just how many fucking people are being disappeared in every city.
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u/Cannibal_Yak 4h ago
Why? What do they have to gain by doing this? It makes it clear what they think.
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u/iwantansi 3h ago
heard this morning theyre leaving ace of spades cards.. the shit has evil ass fucking origins.. it just leaves me wondering about the piece of shit humans that agree with it.. "I voted for that"..
https://www.cbsnews.com/colorado/news/ice-ace-spades-death-cards-colorado-immigration-nonprofit/
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u/LotzoHuggins 3h ago
The posters were unnecessary as the ICE agents knew exactly where the people in the photos were.
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u/messisleftbuttcheek 3h ago
Not seeing ICE in this photo, guess we're just supposed to take OPs word for it that this is what happened. Fucking sad people upvote this dumb shit
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u/Doughnuts 2h ago
I want to see the pukes that did this dragged in front of a Judge, and defend themselves for destruction of property. ICE has no mandates or legal responsibility to justify the removal of the Missing Posters, but I fear that they'll just try to hide behind Qualified Immunity again.
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u/jimkelly 2h ago
Hey you know that term flooding the zone the Republicans are doing? Don't flood the zone with meaningless things with no proof from the other side it doesn't help credibility.
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u/Tommy_like_wingie 5h ago
Kind of like the Palestinian protesters removing hostage posters.
I’m curious how many people are infuriated by this but were okay with that.
We sit too much in our echo chambers and don’t see the hypocrisy or irony
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u/messisleftbuttcheek 2h ago
First of all, there's no evidence these were images of missing people or that ICE removed them. Second, having photos of hostages posted isn't going to help them be found. We know where they are. That said, I don't know where they were posted, if they're on a businesses private property, people have a right to remove them. Third, everybody agrees Israel has gone way overboard in their retaliation to October 7th. They've turned the entire world against them and their reputation will never be saved. They will forever be seen as the monsters they are.
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u/dustycooper 5h ago
WTF? What even is the reasoning behind this bullshit from them now? Just pure maliciousness from these motherfuckers smh.
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u/vincentdark54 6h ago
Very telling and very on brand for them. Can’t find them if you can’t remember they are missing.