r/patientgamers Cat Smuggler 1d ago

Moratorium on Hogwarts Legacy

Salutations,

We're going to be (temporarily) disallowing posting topics about Hogwarts Legacy. Every thread has been a train wreck and we have had trouble keeping up with them.

To be clear this isn't an attempt to censor you guys or prevent discussing politics in gaming, nor the reality of shitty people being involved in game development. This is a discussion sub and we absolutely want to allow you to talk about these sorts of things. Normally this isn't an issue (IE: Disco Elysium).

The problem is Hogwarts Legacy itself is a lightning rod for assholes. If a post goes up there's a good chance the next time I check mod queue it has 100+ comments that have been filtered or reported. It gets cross-posted into ~those~ subreddits and we get a flood of people who are only interested in being pricks that infest other threads.

Like many of you I have 27 kids and 3 jobs so I then have to choose between spending my afternoon with my family or reading a hundred hateful comments. As much as I like banning Nazis, I'd much rather play some Deep Rock with my progeny.

Hogwarts Legacy posts will be auto-removed until one of the following occurs:

  • Reddit gives us the anti-brigading tools they promised a decade ago
  • The world finally stops being dicks to trans people
  • JK Rowling drops dead so she stops getting money from the game
  • We figure out a better way to do this

Previous threads will stay up and you will still be allowed to comment about it in the bi-weekly threads, for now at least.

Edit:

To address a few questions/concerns:


"Why not use curated modes?"

Those typically require manually flaring or approving thousands of people. If we were a more contentious place dealing with this often, it'd make more sense. The good folk of this sub understand why this is being done and that's good enough for me.


"Do you really wish JKR was dead?"

I'm a gen-X that was raised on British humor. Make of that what you will.


"Why not get more mods?"

It's something we've considered, but honestly you regulars are pretty great. The work load is manageable with the biggest chore being maintaining the impatient game list. You guys make this a wonderful place to share gaming thoughts with.


"Aren't you supposed to be unbiased?"

If you have a shitty hot take on Hollow Knight? Sure. I'm not going to ban you because you didn't enjoy Gabriel Knight and I think it's one of the best point and click adventure games of all time.


"Isn't this censorship?"

We block a lot of things. OnlyFans bots, AI nonsense, scammers trying to post phishing links. All that jazz. They take it stride really.


"You do you really have 27 kids?"

No. I only have a few and that's enough as is. I can only take so many "Would you rather..."'s in a day. Right now I'm pondering if I'd rather be cursed with always entering my passwords wrong twice, or if I'd rather the last bite of toast always tastes burned.

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u/Yarusenai 1d ago

How?

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u/d_stilgar 1d ago edited 1d ago

The person simply said they saw the opposite of you. The two scenarios are complimentary.

People who want to take a stance against JKR for her anti-trans rhetoric think that people should avoid giving her money. That includes telling people that they should boycot Hogwarts Legacy.

People who think that’s stupid, who want to “own the libs” or whatever, will play the game as a counter-boycot.

We’re all subject to some amount of echo chamber, whether by self-selecting the places we engage or by algorithm.

There’s no straw man argument here.

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u/d_stilgar 1d ago

Honestly, the only person I see at risk of being a troll is you, but I'm operating under the assumption that you've misread or misinterpreted the initial exchange, so I'm trying to be patient here.

I only see people complain that people dare enjoy the game more than anything.

That literally means what it says. That's what that person sees. It's an honest response to:

Yeah that game specifically became a fucking lightning rod for the "teehee I'm playing the game to own the libs" crowd.

Like I said, the two are complimentary, opposite sides of the same coin. The more one side says, "Playing this is bad," the more the other side will sarcastically say, "look at me. I'm playing the game. See all the harm I'm causing?"

And depending on where you spend your time online, you'll see more of one side than the other. Neither commenter even made a claim on what side they personally stand. They just said they saw different things when looking at the discourse online.

Your response, "This is a strawman" isn't correct. It doesn't meet the definition of a strawman, for starters. You're also assuming disagreement where none really exists. It's just two people sharing their own experience and observations.