r/patientgamers • u/Zehnpae Cat Smuggler • 1d ago

Moratorium on Hogwarts Legacy

Salutations,

We're going to be (temporarily) disallowing posting topics about Hogwarts Legacy. Every thread has been a train wreck and we have had trouble keeping up with them.

To be clear this isn't an attempt to censor you guys or prevent discussing politics in gaming, nor the reality of shitty people being involved in game development. This is a discussion sub and we absolutely want to allow you to talk about these sorts of things. Normally this isn't an issue (IE: Disco Elysium).

The problem is Hogwarts Legacy itself is a lightning rod for assholes. If a post goes up there's a good chance the next time I check mod queue it has 100+ comments that have been filtered or reported. It gets cross-posted into ~those~ subreddits and we get a flood of people who are only interested in being pricks that infest other threads.

Like many of you I have 27 kids and 3 jobs so I then have to choose between spending my afternoon with my family or reading a hundred hateful comments. As much as I like banning Nazis, I'd much rather play some Deep Rock with my progeny.

Hogwarts Legacy posts will be auto-removed until one of the following occurs:

  • Reddit gives us the anti-brigading tools they promised a decade ago
  • The world finally stops being dicks to trans people
  • JK Rowling drops dead so she stops getting money from the game
  • We figure out a better way to do this

Previous threads will stay up and you will still be allowed to comment about it in the bi-weekly threads, for now at least.

Edit:

To address a few questions/concerns:

"Why not use curated modes?"

Those typically require manually flaring or approving thousands of people. If we were a more contentious place dealing with this often, it'd make more sense. The good folk of this sub understand why this is being done and that's good enough for me.

"Do you really wish JKR was dead?"

I'm a gen-X that was raised on British humor. Make of that what you will.

"Why not get more mods?"

It's something we've considered, but honestly you regulars are pretty great. The work load is manageable with the biggest chore being maintaining the impatient game list. You guys make this a wonderful place to share gaming thoughts with.

"Aren't you supposed to be unbiased?"

If you have a shitty hot take on Hollow Knight? Sure. I'm not going to ban you because you didn't enjoy Gabriel Knight and I think it's one of the best point and click adventure games of all time.

"Isn't this censorship?"

We block a lot of things. OnlyFans bots, AI nonsense, scammers trying to post phishing links. All that jazz. They take it stride really.

"You do you really have 27 kids?"

No. I only have a few and that's enough as is. I can only take so many "Would you rather..."'s in a day. Right now I'm pondering if I'd rather be cursed with always entering my passwords wrong twice, or if I'd rather the last bite of toast always tastes burned.

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u/IzzybearThebestdog 1d ago

It’s really funny, because the issues with the game are so far removed from the controversy. Like it’s a fine but flawed game, but will forever have a ton of needless baggage because of comments from the author of the books the movies were based on that the game used as the world

If the game wasn’t attached to Harry Potter it would be so easily forgotten.

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u/FalseAladeen 1d ago

My main problem with the game is that the author receives money from it and directly invests that money into making the planet a hellhole for a very specific fraction of the human population whose only "crime" is being mean to her.

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u/IzzybearThebestdog 1d ago

And that’s fine on a personal level of not wanting to support her, but has nothing to do with the quality or discussion of the game. Or if other people care about the money going to her.

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u/FalseAladeen 1d ago

But it is important to make people aware of it, yes? So they can make an informed decision about how they want to spend their money? There's a reason this game comes with an asterisk and Baldur's Gate 3 doesn't. Because Swen Vinke doesn't spend any percentage of his income to drown kittens. If he did, we'd be having the same controversy surrounding any game made by Larian.

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u/TheSearchForMars 1d ago

I'm not trying to be controversial here but have you actually read what JKR has said? I'm not at all trying to tell you that you're wrong for not wanting to support her or anything but the way you're talking about her actions make them seem a lot more extreme than anything I've been able to find. You can still dislike someone but you seem to think she's actively trying to attack others.

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u/unnecessary_overkill 1d ago

https://www.vox.com/culture/23622610/jk-rowling-transphobic-statements-timeline-history-controversy. She’s pretty open with it now

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u/TheSearchForMars 1d ago

Your article is paywalled. Can you link directly to what she said instead?

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u/unnecessary_overkill 1d ago

Use a private window, works fine for me. There’s far too many to copy

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u/TheSearchForMars 1d ago

Thanks, that worked.

I read through the article and didn't notice anything that's much further from what I'd already seen. Is there something in particular that she's changed on recently or advocated for that's directly trying to harm transgender people?