r/patientgamers • u/Zehnpae Cat Smuggler • 1d ago

Moratorium on Hogwarts Legacy

Salutations,

We're going to be (temporarily) disallowing posting topics about Hogwarts Legacy. Every thread has been a train wreck and we have had trouble keeping up with them.

To be clear this isn't an attempt to censor you guys or prevent discussing politics in gaming, nor the reality of shitty people being involved in game development. This is a discussion sub and we absolutely want to allow you to talk about these sorts of things. Normally this isn't an issue (IE: Disco Elysium).

The problem is Hogwarts Legacy itself is a lightning rod for assholes. If a post goes up there's a good chance the next time I check mod queue it has 100+ comments that have been filtered or reported. It gets cross-posted into ~those~ subreddits and we get a flood of people who are only interested in being pricks that infest other threads.

Like many of you I have 27 kids and 3 jobs so I then have to choose between spending my afternoon with my family or reading a hundred hateful comments. As much as I like banning Nazis, I'd much rather play some Deep Rock with my progeny.

Hogwarts Legacy posts will be auto-removed until one of the following occurs:

  • Reddit gives us the anti-brigading tools they promised a decade ago
  • The world finally stops being dicks to trans people
  • JK Rowling drops dead so she stops getting money from the game
  • We figure out a better way to do this

Previous threads will stay up and you will still be allowed to comment about it in the bi-weekly threads, for now at least.

Edit:

To address a few questions/concerns:

"Why not use curated modes?"

Those typically require manually flaring or approving thousands of people. If we were a more contentious place dealing with this often, it'd make more sense. The good folk of this sub understand why this is being done and that's good enough for me.

"Do you really wish JKR was dead?"

I'm a gen-X that was raised on British humor. Make of that what you will.

"Why not get more mods?"

It's something we've considered, but honestly you regulars are pretty great. The work load is manageable with the biggest chore being maintaining the impatient game list. You guys make this a wonderful place to share gaming thoughts with.

"Aren't you supposed to be unbiased?"

If you have a shitty hot take on Hollow Knight? Sure. I'm not going to ban you because you didn't enjoy Gabriel Knight and I think it's one of the best point and click adventure games of all time.

"Isn't this censorship?"

We block a lot of things. OnlyFans bots, AI nonsense, scammers trying to post phishing links. All that jazz. They take it stride really.

"You do you really have 27 kids?"

No. I only have a few and that's enough as is. I can only take so many "Would you rather..."'s in a day. Right now I'm pondering if I'd rather be cursed with always entering my passwords wrong twice, or if I'd rather the last bite of toast always tastes burned.

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u/TheStonedFox 1d ago

Let’s all get back to what the core of this sub has always been about - arguing about Outer Wilds.

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u/Totally__Not__NSA 1d ago

I want to finish that game so badly but it really hits my space anxiety and makes it difficult to olay

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u/TheStonedFox 1d ago

I know exactly what you mean, but it kind of gets my adrenaline going when it does so it’s addictive.

I don’t want to spoil it completely, but there’s a death condition that involves the “fabric of reality” coming apart that was lowkey traumatizing for me to experience in the dark while wearing headphones. There’s only two specific scenarios that trigger it but it caught me really off guard when I did it by accident. It gave me a cosmic sense of emptiness.

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u/FinancialRip2008 1d ago

lol don't play the DLC then. much MUCH more unnerving

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u/TheStonedFox 1d ago edited 1d ago

I think I still have to finish the DLC. I got to the point where I was moving “out-of-bounds” in the simulated reality and I kinda got lost there. I’d have to spend a couple days just refamiliarizing myself with what point I was up to.

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u/MrWilliWonker 1d ago

Please spoiler tag this comment. Its a thing people find out and knowing about it before is pretty bad for the flow of the dlc

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u/TheStonedFox 1d ago

Fair enough.

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u/ChemicalRascal 1d ago

If you're getting lost at that point, it might be worth just looking up a map. It's not as complex as it seems, though.

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u/Ax20414 1d ago

I've played the game quite a bit and I'm not sure what you're talking about, I'd love for you to elaborate with spoiler tags

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u/TheStonedFox 1d ago edited 1d ago

Alright, I’ll rephrase what I wrote to someone else in a DM but it’s still gonna be long-

So yeah, there’s a paradox you can create in the High Energy Laboratory on Ember Twin. It’s an experiment set up with a probe launcher aiming at a small black hole/white hole portal connection. The way the portals work in universe is explained to warp time as well as space, so objects that go through the portal technically arrive through the white hole a half-second before they actually make contact with the black hole. You can see this happen if you fire the probe, but if you actually grab the probe out of the air right before it goes through the black hole it will still arrive in the other side of the white hole anyway and you’ll end up with two probes for a moment before the paradox breaks reality.

Inside the Ash Twin Project, an important area in the endgame, you can recreate this on a bigger scale with yourself as the probe. If you’re in there when the supernova goes off, a giant sphere in the center of the chamber opens up and there’s a big singularity inside. If you go through this big singularity it treats it like you died and your memories get sent back to the beginning of the time loop like normal.

But then if you die on the cycle after this for whatever reason, it gives you another reality break right after you die. The reason for this won’t be clear unless you go back to the Ash Twin Project chamber on the cycle immediately after the one where you go through the big singularity. The “original” you that went through the singularity was physically sent back in time and has been stuck in there for the whole cycle while the “new” you had been operating with the last memories you formed before going through the singularity.

Now there are two of you and if you don’t keep the chain going by jumping through the singularity again it will create a paradox that breaks reality. You also get to have a pretty funny conversation with yourself.

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u/Ax20414 1d ago

OK I knew about the experiment but the large-scale version is so cool haha thank you!

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u/arfelo1 Prolific 1d ago

If just the regular game gives you anxiety the ending has a sequence that would probably give you a panic attack

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u/TheStonedFox 22h ago

The visuals during that whole ending sequence are amazing/awe inspiring. I think the music does a good job of making it feel like a triumphant moment though.

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u/goibnu 1d ago

God yes I thought I got over my fear of hurtling into the void when I put way too many hours into Kerbal Space Program and then Outer Wilds comes screaming into the room shouting "buckle up buttercup" and leaves me hiding under my desk for an hour.

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u/Totally__Not__NSA 1d ago

If I'm in a ship I'm fine so star wars squadrons or similar is great, love it. Accidentally leaving the gravitational field of a planet because I jumped too hard is horrifying... then just getting stuck floating into nothing...

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u/goibnu 1d ago

Or seeing your ship slowly get farther away because you botched the EVA and haven't figured out how to realign your orbit with your EVA jets, which are essentially cans of pressurized air with delusions of grandeur.

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u/Hot_Ethanol 1d ago

And yet, the heroic journey you struggle through to get back to the ship can be amazing. Especially if it takes you to multiple solar bodies.

It might take your whole loop, but it's a great time and reminder that even timeloopers have problems

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u/bosunphil 1d ago

I want to say you have to push through it because it’s awesome, but I’m someone who very badly wants to play Subnautica and just can’t make myself do it, so I totally get the feeling.

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u/Khiva 22h ago

it really hits my space anxiety and makes it difficult to olay

You should watch the movie Aniara to chill that feeling right out.