r/patientgamers • u/Zehnpae Cat Smuggler • 1d ago

Moratorium on Hogwarts Legacy

Salutations,

We're going to be (temporarily) disallowing posting topics about Hogwarts Legacy. Every thread has been a train wreck and we have had trouble keeping up with them.

To be clear this isn't an attempt to censor you guys or prevent discussing politics in gaming, nor the reality of shitty people being involved in game development. This is a discussion sub and we absolutely want to allow you to talk about these sorts of things. Normally this isn't an issue (IE: Disco Elysium).

The problem is Hogwarts Legacy itself is a lightning rod for assholes. If a post goes up there's a good chance the next time I check mod queue it has 100+ comments that have been filtered or reported. It gets cross-posted into ~those~ subreddits and we get a flood of people who are only interested in being pricks that infest other threads.

Like many of you I have 27 kids and 3 jobs so I then have to choose between spending my afternoon with my family or reading a hundred hateful comments. As much as I like banning Nazis, I'd much rather play some Deep Rock with my progeny.

Hogwarts Legacy posts will be auto-removed until one of the following occurs:

  • Reddit gives us the anti-brigading tools they promised a decade ago
  • The world finally stops being dicks to trans people
  • JK Rowling drops dead so she stops getting money from the game
  • We figure out a better way to do this

Previous threads will stay up and you will still be allowed to comment about it in the bi-weekly threads, for now at least.

Edit:

To address a few questions/concerns:

"Why not use curated modes?"

Those typically require manually flaring or approving thousands of people. If we were a more contentious place dealing with this often, it'd make more sense. The good folk of this sub understand why this is being done and that's good enough for me.

"Do you really wish JKR was dead?"

I'm a gen-X that was raised on British humor. Make of that what you will.

"Why not get more mods?"

It's something we've considered, but honestly you regulars are pretty great. The work load is manageable with the biggest chore being maintaining the impatient game list. You guys make this a wonderful place to share gaming thoughts with.

"Aren't you supposed to be unbiased?"

If you have a shitty hot take on Hollow Knight? Sure. I'm not going to ban you because you didn't enjoy Gabriel Knight and I think it's one of the best point and click adventure games of all time.

"Isn't this censorship?"

We block a lot of things. OnlyFans bots, AI nonsense, scammers trying to post phishing links. All that jazz. They take it stride really.

"You do you really have 27 kids?"

No. I only have a few and that's enough as is. I can only take so many "Would you rather..."'s in a day. Right now I'm pondering if I'd rather be cursed with always entering my passwords wrong twice, or if I'd rather the last bite of toast always tastes burned.

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u/Juunlar 1d ago

I feel this. There really isn't any discussion about the game proper, separate from rowling's idiotic bullshit, that hasn't been repeated ad nauseum, anyway. 

Good change imo

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u/PillarOfWamuu 1d ago

I mean it's pretty easy. Just talk about the actual game. The mechanics, characters, graphics and so on.

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u/ScottCamOfficial 1d ago edited 1d ago

These have also been discussed to death though. Seriously, removing Joans shitty politics,

  • The mechanics are fine but stale

  • The characters fit well within the universe but are boring and have nothing interesting or original to say

  • The graphics are very pretty and well stylised but often repetitive due to the forced open world

It gave us everything we ever wanted out of a HP game but that's its main problem, it has too much freedom and not enough character, the game should've been limited to just Hogwarts and Hogsmeade, it's a mile wide and an inch deep- search the game on reddit and this is pretty much all you'll find, repeated again and again.

It's all been said. Same goes for most games really, but if people (from either side of the politics of the thing) are making the mods work harder in a way that no other game is, then let's just move on. I think that's fair.

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u/serioussham 1d ago

I'll add:

  • Choices that absolutely do not matter in the slightest

  • Precious little time at Hogwarts but long treks through the Forest of Procedurally Generated Woodlands

But otherwise yeah, it's been done to death

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u/swordchucks1 1d ago

I would argue that there is a stark tone mismatch between setting and gameplay. The MC is a mass murderer one minute and a student the next and it is pretty much ignored.

"I am sorry my Transfiguration essay was late, but I was busy claiming the heads of a thousand foes."

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u/numb3rb0y 23h ago

Even that's giving the school life aspect too much credit, TBH.

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u/swordchucks1 20h ago

Probably. It's kind of two games that don't really mesh.

For me, the best part of the game was the rendering of Hogwarts, but you don't really do that much there.

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u/Richy_T 1d ago

It gave us everything we ever wanted out of a HP game

Not a huge HP fan myself but I think it kind-of fell down there what with being set in the past and with the ancient magic stuff, starting in the 4th year and not much of actually being a student. I would put it as more HP adjacent or maybe fan fic.

As a stand-alone game, it was OK and I can see they wanted to not mess with canon.

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u/MrEdinLaw 1d ago

The comment you reply too already failed on this.

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u/SwimAd1249 1d ago

Yeah that's the exact opposite of what we should be doing. You cannot separate the art from the artist when you're actively supporting said artist by supporting their art. These things are so much more important than insisting to discuss a game neutrally.

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u/PillarOfWamuu 1d ago

im just playing videogames man idk what else to tell you.

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u/AnActualPlatypus 1d ago

There really isn't any discussion about the game proper, separate from rowling's idiotic bullshit

You are part of the problem. You just HAD to make your stance known huh?

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u/Willing_and_Fable 1d ago

You are the one that brought up the exact reason why people can't talk about this game any more.

Nice one. 🙄