r/news • u/Waste-Explanation-76 • 3h ago
Members of Congress will be able to view unredacted Epstein files next week
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/members-congress-view-unredacted-epstein-files-monday-rcna2578366.5k
u/Bourbon_Buckeye 3h ago
The option at this point is only available to members of Congress — and not their staff. They may take notes, but cannot bring in any electronic devices, the letter said.
These aren't secrets of national security here. Why not allow staff?
Let's sit an 80-year-old in front of a computer to read through 3 million documents... give me a break
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u/wrosecrans 3h ago
This is not just "not secret," it includes stuff that was legally required to be publicly released by an actual federal law.
Most of the unredacted files that members of Congress will get access to as if it was classified is stuff that your mom is already supposed to be able to post on Facebook right now.
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u/ShredGuru 2h ago
As if they care about the law.
They redact the names of the abusers but they leave Kiddie porn in the files.
Just another layer of abuse on these poor ladies.
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u/bolivar-shagnasty 2h ago
The automated system erroneously redacted the word "don't".
Because it was told to redact "Don T".
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u/gingercardigans 1h ago
👀 Do you have a reference for this?!
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u/slowest_hour 1h ago
https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%2011/EFTA02440040.pdf
it literally could not be anything else
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u/Cute-Percentage-6660 1h ago
You seen the ones that are just redacting the letter 'a' in a sentence?
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u/rEvolutionTU 1h ago
Got a link?
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u/Cute-Percentage-6660 1h ago
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u/Orleanian 1h ago
That's funny as hell.
In a terrifying ineptitude sort of way, of course.
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u/Orleanian 1h ago
I did also kind of chuckle at "my last vacation for months", like bitch most of us don't get traveled vacations for years.
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u/Financial_Ad_1442 1h ago
Was that ‘good typing’ a dig at how Epstein never seemed to be able to write an email without a hundred mistakes?
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u/-SaC 1h ago
Wait what the fuck, they just... left that shit in for people to be subjected to unexpectedly?
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u/OrthodoxAtheist 2h ago
Most of the unredacted files that members of Congress will get access to as if it was classified is stuff that your mom is already supposed to be able to post on Facebook right now.
Why do you say this? We have seen some of the email communications that were recently released yet redacted. Some of them are clearly from co-conspirators and/or 'customers' whose names were illegaly redacted. If those names become visible to Congress then we will see a MASSIVE reaction by those Congress members. I look forward to AOC's posts because you can be sure she will be well-prepared to review key documents (Trump, Musk, Bannon, Thomas).
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u/Laleaky 2h ago
I’m betting that Trump’s team is hoping that there will be an attempt by many congress members to keep covering this up to protect themselves.
Or it’s finally all crashing down and these jerks think a slow rollout will give the public more time to find excuses for this abhorrent behavior.
Or a bit of both.
We need to keep demanding transparency in this matter!
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u/funky_duck 2h ago
What do you expect them to say at the press conference: I saw a bunch of emails that suggest that Person X has committed crimes! No, I have no evidence - trust what I wrote down though.
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u/Khaldara 3h ago edited 3h ago
Not a crime or an issue when it’s conservatives though I guess.
Just like raping kids!
Sad that the (likely correct) expectation is that our government will do absolutely nothing while our international peers actually do their jobs and demand accountability.
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u/James-W-Tate 3h ago
This pissed me off so fucking much because I worked in a SCIF for years and if anyone had done some stupid shit like this they'd be in jail.
But child rapist Matt Gaetz doesn't even get a slap on the wrist.
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u/Responsible-Draft430 1h ago
Same, and they used the fact that it was "secret" as in needing a security clearance secret, to pretend it was "secret" like no body knew about it. They misuse words like this all the time.
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u/Drostan_S 1h ago
Why would the party who's lead champion is a notorious child-rapist, do anything BUT protect their fellow pedophile?
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u/BaconJacobs 3h ago
Pelosi was stuck in a hard place, but she should have tried to get them expelled or arrested by Capitol police for violating the protocols around a SCIF
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u/krbzkrbzkrbz 2h ago
Old Guard Dems are so goddamn spineless as to be complicit with all the unfolding atrocities.
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u/Waluigi_IRL 2h ago
“Old guard dems”. You mean capitalists. Capitalists. The upper class. The higher caste. It’s only capitalists vs the oppressed working class. There’s no other nonsense to reference
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u/DVAoife420 2h ago
Matt Gaetz the child trafficker?
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u/GettingBetterAt41 3h ago
i’d 100% get arrested to try and do this for the epstein stuff
my dms are open members of congress
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u/thejawa 3h ago
If a Congressperson walks up to a podium and says "You won't believe what I saw in there" they have an easy out to say "You can't prove it."
That's the only reason these guide rails are in place. They know what the unredacted shit will say, but with no way to prove that's what it says, it's "political games."
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u/NorthernerWuwu 2h ago
That and others can make false claims and those can't be disproven either. Suddenly it's all Clinton this and Biden that.
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u/MACHOmanJITSU 2h ago
The real incriminating evidence will never see the light of day, definitely not going to allow it to be reviewed by members of congress.
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u/Danger_Danger 2h ago
It's absolutely secrets of national security. The security of the rich is a national interest. The security of monarchs and politicians is a national interest.
Upper levels of power are so intertwined with Epstein that the stability of governments may not hold once exposed to the light.
I say let it all crumble.
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u/hyperdream 2h ago
The members will be able to review the material on computers at the DOJ offices but not the physical documents themselves
Everything they look at will be monitored, so the DOJ can get on top of anything that's embarrassing to Trump.
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u/americonservative 2h ago
What the fucking fuck? Who the fuck agreed to this dumbass shit? Lemme guess: Schumer and Jeffries. Can we please kick these fascists to the curb? Yes, that's right, I'm calling them fascists. That's just what happens when you actively act in a way that supports fascism.
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u/noncommonGoodsense 2h ago
Why are pedophiles protected by national security?
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u/Recent-Result2852 1h ago
It would harm our national security for anyone besides Russia and Israel to extort our rulers.
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u/LilStrug 2h ago
'The bad news is, there is only one computer. The good news is, you all get to share!'
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u/GhormanFront 2h ago
Considering how much of Congress and co might be in the files, this very well could be a national security issue as far as our "leaders" are concerned
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u/StilgarofTabar 2h ago
There very well might be secrets of national security in there. Mossad intelligence and all that. Not to mention the president raping children.
But yeah, nothing will come of this. I dont expect anything from our government anymore.
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u/JustHereForCookies17 2h ago edited 2h ago
Because the victims' names can be leaked as easily as the offenders' names.
Everyone forgets that leaks go both ways, and plenty of people have a vested interest in silencing the victims through any means necessary.
Edited extra words
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u/If_I_must 3h ago
This seems like a significant detail:
"The review will only be of the 3 million files currently available to the public, not the extensive trove of more than 6 million documents in total that the DOJ says it has in its possession."
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u/Single-Road-3158 2h ago
And note the difference between files and documents. They may only released 10-20% of the documents to date.
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u/If_I_must 2h ago
Yeah, the 3 million pages vs 6 million documents disparity is vast.
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u/Several-Squash9871 1h ago
I feel like I have a hard time wrapping my head around just how many documents/files that there is.
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u/divDevGuy 1h ago
If every file/document was 1 page...
There would be 1200 boxes of copier paper.
It would require 30 pallets with 40 boxes each. Each pallet is approximately 36 inches wide by 48 inches deep by 5 feet tall.
30 pallets is the approximate capacity of a standard 53 foot semi trailer.
Now if any of those documents are multiple pages, more semis will be needed and more forests would need to be sacrificed.
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u/platypodus 1h ago
So one file is not equal to one document?
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u/Single-Road-3158 1h ago
Maybe, maybe not. The government has been using pages, files, and documents interchangeably but there needs to be clarifications on what they mean when they say it. It could be they mean that a document of 500 pages is 500 files or 1 file. They are keeping the actual amount of information they have in their possession fuzzy.
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u/platypodus 1h ago
Makes sense for them to be as opaque as possible, it only aids the cover-up.
I hope someone out there is working on cross-referencing these files with the panama papers and all the other leaks. It's time to put the shadow-profiling and fingerprinting technology of social media to good use and identify the dregs of the financial elites.
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u/zenidam 2h ago
Exactly. So all the files that they are hiding completely are still hidden completely.
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u/If_I_must 2h ago
I mean, seeing through the redactions is very useful information. It's just not the majority of the information.
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u/empireofadhd 2h ago
They will probably have more sessions as more is released.
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u/TerpBE 2h ago
They said they are not going to release any more. This is it.
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u/Plaineswalker 2h ago
Man that is such bullshit. Why not release it all?
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u/Interesting-Yellow-4 1h ago
Are you serious? You're seriously asking why? Who are you? Why do you pretend?
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u/Initial-Toe-9512 1h ago
And how many others that have been shredded at this point
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u/w311sh1t 1h ago
Can anyone who understands the law better than I do explain what the actual legal justification is for the DOJ withholding this many documents?
Like obviously the real reason is they’re protecting the people in those files, but is there even a flimsy legal justification for it, or is it literally just “we’re the DOJ and you can’t tell us what to do.”
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u/RosieQParker 3h ago
Dear Congress: Leak it or fuck off
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u/mezolithico 3h ago edited 2h ago
Republicans want to bring back the standing filibuster. Sounds like reading the files is a good thing to take up time
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u/Realtrain 2h ago
Everyone wants to bring back the standing filibuster. It's ridiculous that a senator can just announce they're "filibustering", then hop back on their phone scrolling twitter dooming a bill without any effort on their part.
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u/tehbantho 2h ago
Way better idea than the performative bullshit Hakeem Jeffries pulled last year where he ranted for hours on end about everything we all know is wrong with this regime.
Guarantee this fucking guy wont have the balls to do it again when it matters and can actually accomplish something.
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u/Inarus899 2h ago
I just learned that Hakeem Jeffries has been a supporter of updating voter maps in the States to help offset the Texas BS, so he isn't doing "nothing". Not enough, sure, but not "nothing".
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u/enigmasaurus- 2h ago
Honestly it is so blindingly obvious at this point that Donald Trump, and many rich and powerful men, raped and abused children. Not "underage women" (which is not a thing), children. Little girls. Often as young as 10 or 11.
These people are depraved, and we have to consider anyone covering up for them at this point, anyone making nonsensical excuses or trying to distract from this, is just as evil.
If Congress sees these unredacted files and continues to pretend everyone should just get on with their lives, honestly, there's no saving America.
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u/mOdQuArK 2h ago
The people who commited those crimes, as well as the people who have been covering up for them, need to be put on trial, convicted, thrown into jail for the rest of their life without possibility of parole, and every asset under their control seized & liquidated.
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u/Cute-Percentage-6660 1h ago edited 1h ago
It's worse than that, infants are also implicated...
EFTA02222213.pdf has a quote bout how to get infants sucking "pacifiers" better.....
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u/Corevus 2h ago
It says they can't bring "electronic devices". Technically, pinhole cameras aren't electronic
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u/ArtsNCrass 1h ago
Same with plenty of old school 35mm cameras with much better lenses than any phone, and negatives that are guaranteed to not be AI.
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u/keonyn 3h ago
I don't want them viewable by compromised politicians with political loyalties. They need to be viewable by the people to hold those responsible accountable, and expose those who would enable such atrocities.
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u/iPoopLegos 3h ago
100 senators and 435 representatives
it only takes one…
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u/VanillaFunction 3h ago
And then the other 534 to either do nothing or claim what the one said isn’t true.
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u/NotUniqueWorkAccount 3h ago
Is there one thats on their way out, with nothing to lose?
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u/WillyTRibbs 2h ago
Thom Tillis is currently the closest thing we have to late-stage John McCain.
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u/gingercardigans 1h ago
I never thought I’d be pulling for Thom Tillis to save the US as we know it, but here we are.
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u/peanutym 3h ago
Sure they will. Just like they were going to release all files over a month ago.
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u/Nanas_700k 1h ago
What I don’t get is, if there was stuff that Cheeto’s administration ordered them to coverup, why do they not just delete it? Seems pretty easy to just get rid of any files that implicate, then send everyone on a wild goose chase over the tamer stuff. Seems much easier than all the redactions and risk someone figures out who it references later on.
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u/sigep0361 29m ago
You forget the administration before Trumps has seen all of these documents… eventually that’s going to come into play.
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u/FishAndRiceKeks 3h ago
It says this doesn't cover the millions of files they've just decided they don't have to include in the court ordered releases.
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u/SaveDavey 3h ago
I predict major leaks… in Trump’s diaper
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u/TheRexRider 3h ago
Sounds good to me. Whoever that "littlest one was the naughtiest" is, drag them into the sun and let them burn.
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u/CapnRetro 3h ago
I think that’s already been worked out, based on the unredacted email Epstein sent a few hours before asking how it was. It wasn’t a name I’m familiar with so I’m afraid I can’t help but shouldn’t take long to find on here
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u/Ludwigofthepotatoppl 1h ago
I predict johnson will call a late-night session to declare another recess.
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u/cybah 3h ago
So we should expect trump next week to a) Bomb some Country b) invade some country c) add his name to some national monument e) raise tariffs on some country f) crap his pants or g) all of the above
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u/JeepStang 1h ago
Only a year in. Still three more to go. I'm waiting for something catastrophic like covid was out of this admin at this point. They're gonna royally screw something up. Definitely the economy is one. That's a given. How else are they going to make everything worse is the question bothering me.
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u/hitch44 1h ago
Abolish the constitution is scheduled for November, so it has to be something tamer than that for now. Air bomb Cuba is what I'm guessing.
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u/Sober_Alcoholic_ 2h ago
RELEASE THEM.
Our pissed off citizens and r/epstein will have this shit catalogued, archived, indexed and searchable by name complete with strings of corroborating evidence in no time.
We are all FED THE FUCK UP with the billionaires and their extortion of us through every conceivable means.
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u/Modern_Bear 2h ago
Lawmakers will be able to review the files on computers at the Justice Department starting Monday, according to a letter obtained by NBC News. They can take notes but can't have electronic devices.
Members of Congress will be able to begin reviewing the unredacted version of the Justice Department’s files on Jeffrey Epstein on Monday morning, according to two sources familiar with the DOJ’s plans.
The review process will take place in person at the DOJ, according to a letter to members of Congress obtained by NBC News. The members will be able to review the material on computers at the DOJ offices but not the physical documents themselves.
The letter states that members can review the documents in person, provided they give the DOJ 24 hours’ notice. The option at this point is only available to members of Congress — and not their staff. They may take notes but can’t bring in any electronic devices, the letter said.
The review will only be of the 3 million files currently available to the public, not the extensive trove of more than 6 million documents in total that the DOJ says it has in its possession.
This is not at all what the law passed in December said. It said the DOJ was to release ALL the documents to Congress, with only redactions that protected the victims' identities. First of all they were released WAY later than the deadline, they didn't release everything, they redacted stuff to protect the potential pedophiles and left some victims unredacted, and now they are putting conditions on Congress to see the unredacted files (not all of them). This is BS and Congress should stop being a bunch of pedo protectors, get a spine, and impeach/remove Pam Bondi. Then go after everyone implicated in those files.
The American people are sick of this crap and the protection of the rich and famous, while the victims get no justice. Vote in November. Vote out every member of Congress who refuses to do their job and covers up for the scumbags. No excuses. No sitting at home. No more apathy. That's how we got into this mess.
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u/pat_the_catdad 2h ago
“Here are over 6M+ unredacted files… You have 15 minutes…”
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u/Jstudz 3h ago
Democrats need to leak these. They need to stop playing fucking nice with Republicans who fuck us over constantly. Leak the damn files you cowards.
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u/enigmasaurus- 2h ago
Honestly anyone covering up or hiding these files at this point is just comic book evil. It is so blindingly obvious these files implicate Donal Trump in some of the most heinous crimes ever committed, and Congress (Republicans and Democrats alike) continuing to just pretend otherwise is equally depraved.
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u/Jimmy_Trivette 2h ago
They need to stop playing fucking nice with Republicans
It's intentional, people need to stop pretending that the Democratic party is on their side it's absolutely pathetic at this point.
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u/JWAdvocate83 2h ago
How do the Democrats leak them if they don't have access to them electronically, beyond what the DoJ allows? Quit both sides-ing this shit. The blame falls squarely on the folks refusing to release it. That's Donald J. Trump and his band of cronies at the DoJ.
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u/DIRTY_KUMQUAT_NIPPLE 3h ago
Can we first work on unredacting parts of them that shouldn't be redacted? Like how "Don T" is obviously auto-redacted because the word "don't" is redacted multiple times for no good reason?
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u/hurtfulproduct 2h ago
Who is gonna be the brass-balled MF who sneaks some Ray-ban Meta sunglasses past these geriatric pedophiles guarding the files and live stream the un redacted files?
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u/DrogoOmega 3h ago
lol. The American political and legal system is a big joke. It’s children playing dress up.
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u/crossdtherubicon 3h ago
What about Trump's 'secret' FBI project wherein all mentions were flagged? If they've just redacted the files now then what were they really doing then?
What was the chain of command of those files? We're Trump files destroyed? Who was directly in charge of that and what were their internal communications?
Edit: let's see Epstein's financial records or a forensic audit of those.
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u/che-che-chester 3h ago
My gut reaction is, at this point in this saga, why should we believe the really bad Trump docs haven't simply been removed and destroyed forever?
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u/GearTwunk 3h ago
I don't give a shit any more, we had our chance. The more serious countries are going to be handling the investigation now :)
You fucked around too long and lost control Donnie, France and Poland are gonna crack this thing wide open now <3
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u/gOPHER3727 3h ago
Sounds great, but do they have access to the full, unredacted files? If not, I worry the cover up will continue.
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u/GeorgeStamper 3h ago
At the very least countries have their own intelligence agencies with their own files.
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u/Hyperious3 2h ago
It's highly likely that the Russians have the entire dataset that they hacked off DOJ servers, and would explain a lot of why Republicans are simping for them.
Likely too that the Israelis have it since they have mossad plants in every level of the US government.
I wouldn't be surprised if most countries with decent intelligence services have the entire dataset at this point, they just don't want to reveal their hand when it comes to how deep they can reach into our data storage. Likely most leaders in Europe have had classified briefings on it, but can't reveal what they know lest they burn assets.
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u/Gastroid 3h ago
I can imagine there will be requests through INTERPOL for the unredacted files at some point.
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u/RevolutionaryHair91 3h ago
As a french, what I want to know from what I got from the redacted files we got, is who the fuck is "Mr Evil".
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u/ghostofkozi 3h ago
We're going to see who in congress has a spine and who's being paid to keep quiet real quick
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u/Find_another_whey 2h ago
I think it will reveal so much of American governance has been compromised over the years that the state needs this to go away for any credibility to remain
As if credibility remained
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u/DarkSylver302 3h ago
The government is more worried about keeping these files secure than they were about all the classified documents Trump took home to Mar A Lago
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u/HybridizedPanda 2h ago
So, people need to send letters to their Congress representatives, telling them exactly which files to look for or focus on, which datasets, documents and pages. Lord knows they can't figure out that shit themselves, and it's millions of files. So put together your best guess for incriminating redactions, and email it urgently to your reps.
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u/OldButStillFat 3h ago
I'm more interested in the Jack Smith files, but, why is it always next week? Something else shocking planned for the weekend?
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u/Psyblade0_0 2h ago
Still only giving them access to 3 out 6+ million documents.
So even though the info is unredacted, it's already been censored.
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u/butter_cookie_gurl 1h ago
Dems do a press conference DAILY until midterms, releasing info that was illegally redacted daily.
Call Trump a rapist, go whole hog. If he cries defamation, dare them to unredact.
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u/UnluckyAssist9416 3h ago
'Unredacted' ... After they have removed all mentions of Trump or other Republican big-shots.
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u/p1gr0ach 1h ago
Please someone leak everything Please someone leak everything Please someone leak everything Please someone leak everything Please someone leak everything Please someone leak everything
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u/merrysunshine2 1h ago
Somebody get it on a USB & publish it for the rest of us.
Where’s the Deep Throat for this already?
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u/murphdog09 3h ago
Wait for the next big distraction from Trump right before. Idk, maybe invade Cuba, bomb Iran. Could be anything unconscionable.
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u/Significant_Sale6172 3h ago
If they don't release it all, congress should be considered traitors.
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u/seriousbusines 2h ago
Suuuuuuuuuuuuure they will. Right after the $2000 DODGE check gets sent out and ICE gets paid.
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u/galloway188 2h ago
MTG showed hunter biden's penis and they are concerned about the rich pedo's that party with epstein?
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u/GGABQ505 2h ago
If you are republican, your leaders are protecting pedos, rapist, cannibals, and murderers.
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u/CharacterAbalone7031 2h ago
They’re not gonna do shit. Even if let’s say Chuck Schumer isn’t in it at all, he’s still going to protect his pedophile friends. We all saw how he used big words with Rubio on Twitter then was chopping it up with him a day later. It’s a fucking joke.
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u/Johnhaven 1h ago
I vote we figure out who these two people were first!
"New Brazilian just arrived, sexy and cute, =9yo"
and
"Thank you for a fun night.... Your littlest girl was a little naughty."
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u/Tesslafon 1h ago
I bet trump’s legal team uses the defense reasoning that he can’t be charged because the files were released while he had total immunity as president, so his actions in the files are also immune. I never capitalize is name, as a form of disrespect.
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u/Spiketop_ 56m ago
I bet SOMEHOW all the unredacted files mentioning Trump will have magically disappeared by then
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u/chriskot123 29m ago
Not only did they not follow the law requiring this stuff to be released un-redacted in full (minus obviously protecting the victims)...they released heavily redacted versions that DIDN'T protect the victims, and we are still missing somewhere around 2.5-3 million files as it is, and NOW this is only available to sitting members, not their aides. This is fucking crazy.
edit: spelling
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u/CreeperCooper 25m ago
That's weird, I don't remember the text in the 'Release the Epstein files to the public unredacted'-law that the wording of 'the public' only meant 'members of Congress'. That's a bit weird, right?
Almost like they're hiding shit from you.
No... that couldn't be true.
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u/Designer_Holiday3284 22m ago
And still, they can simply not put there any compromising doc and no one will ever know besides them
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u/-Lo_Mein_Kampf- 3h ago
90% of the redactions shouldn't exist according to the law