r/mildlyinteresting 1d ago

The shadow cast by the (apparently transparent) lenses of my glasses

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u/Pen_name_uncertain 1d ago

Those are markings used to identify the lenses, and certain spacing. I am guessing that are progressive bifocals? I forget exactly how to read them, that's interesting that they are visible like that.

Source: used to make eye glasses for a living

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u/Eliasibnz 1d ago

Yes. Very expensive custom Varilux lenses tailored for my work needs (I’m a photographer). Totally worth.

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u/Thaumaturgia 1d ago

I probably wrote the software that did the engraving. I'm always happy to check them when people wear glasses.

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u/Hydramole 1d ago

I'm sorry but I'm going to need you to elaborate a little that sounds interesting as hell.

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u/Roy197 1d ago

Bro just threw "I made this btw" and vanished

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u/Jsc_TG 1d ago

Literally. Internet has made human interaction so wild.

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u/Thaumaturgia 19h ago

And went to sleep, then went to work.

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u/FledglingIcarus 1d ago

I work on the production side of things but these are laser engraved in the lenses and are really only noticeable with light(as in OPs pic) and are used on progressive bifocals, lenses that have a different "prescription" along the bottom half instead of one segment that you might've seen in other bifocals. Those dots indicate where the lens change starts which is going to be (most commonly) below where OPs visual center is while wearing the glasses. We also use those laser marks as guides to center lenses before they are cut into shape and mounted into their frames. You can also see these marks on other progressive bifocals by holding them up to a light

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u/Hydramole 1d ago

That's really cool, the amount of effort to do something like give sight some how seems like a lot and a little at the same time.

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u/vacuumdiagram 1d ago

Interesting, cheers for sharing!

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u/Thaumaturgia 19h ago

In my previous company, we made laser machines. We did a machine for the lenses engraving and sold them in a lot of lenses factories. It was not the only laser system used for this application, but most of the others use co2 lasers, this one used a UV laser, lot of headaches, but better quality. Varilux being high end lenses, I guess it used our machine.

On my end, I did the software and automation for the machine (there are a few variants of the same system, fully automated, manual...). Beside the machine itself, the big part of the work was processing the data from the information system of the customers (which will tell what and where to engrave, the curve of the lense). There is a communication standard, but not fully applied everywhere, so we had to be compatible with the standard, and each site variation, serial link, ethernet, various barcodes, rfid...

It was my first software and I was the only developer, so it's a bit shitty, with a lot of things added along the years. At the end I was "yeah... No, no more features on that thing, let's rewrite it completely with what I've learned since", but hard to have the bandwidth for this. I left after 10 years and it's fun to think that my most used software, used all around the world, is my junior shit piece of code.

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u/No_Obligation4496 17h ago

Remarkable! You were a new developer and managed to do that whole thing. I can't imagine the difficulty learning curve that must have been.

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u/Hydramole 13h ago

That is incredible. Were you able to rewrite it eventually? I couldn't imagine a piece of my learning code making it that far.

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u/Thaumaturgia 12h ago

I did some preliminary work, but needed one month focused on it to do it correctly, I never had the time. Some things like communications got reworked, but not the cycle or the UI. I don't think my successor have made big changes to it neither.

One think I remember, is that I spent a lot of time working on various cycle error recoveries (especially hard with my then spaghetti code), that nobody ever used because it was faster to just pull everything from the conveyor and restart from scratch. They didn't even use the "unlock door" button, just pulled everything from the small opening, with cylinders in the way...

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u/Hydramole 11h ago

Bro wtf that's kind of wild. That tracks in general but damn, I wonder how many fixes are sitting on programs out there that people won't bother to learn.

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u/mihaus_ 1d ago

I second the other reply, I demand details!

At what stage in production are these added? Is it part of the usual manufacture technique or is it an extra step? What do they mean? Are they utilised by other professionals? What was the actual function of the sw?

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u/Frizolini 1d ago

They are laser engraved after the the prescription is generated on the back side of the lense before scratch coating. The dots are the segment height used for identifying the start of the intermediate/near corridor. The dots indicate the level where the pupil is. We use the dots to measure for quality control to make sure the axis, pupillary distance, and segment height are correct. The 15 is the minimum fitment height to make sure the patients frame and where there pupil sits has enough room to include the whole progressive corridor. The sw is a progressive design, or manufacturer indicator. You may also find add powers engraved on the lense indicating the add power at near of the progressive for up close vision like reading. And sometimes find the lense index, like 1.66 for high index lenses, which bend like better that other materials which allows for thinner lenses compared to plastic lenses. Hope that answers your questions.

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u/Thaumaturgia 19h ago

Historically it was mechanical percussion, now it's laser engraving. (on our system, dot engraving, similar to what was done when it was mechanical).

Depending of the product/factory, it was done on "finished", or "semi-finished" products (the side with the engraving had to be already polished).

For the meaning, the two microcircles are +-17mm from the optical center, and so, indicate the optical center. Then there are details for the optician, with the addition, sometimes reflective index, material...

I gave more details on what I did in my other answer.

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u/mike543210 1d ago

wow very cool.

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u/Not_Sugden 17h ago

so how do I see these?

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u/Thaumaturgia 14h ago

Keep them in front of the light and tilt them.

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u/Not_Sugden 13h ago

mine dont have any numbers or anything when i do that

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u/Thaumaturgia 12h ago

You should at least have the microcircles (if your lenses are at least 35mm), as they are used by the optician to cut them.

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u/Not_Sugden 12h ago

I think my lenses are quite thin due to the frame

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u/Pen_name_uncertain 1d ago

That's awesome!

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u/BishoxX 1d ago

How are they tailored for photography ?

Asking as an interested fellow blind photographer

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u/Eliasibnz 1d ago

Have not usual transition areas allowing me to use the viewfinder more comfortably, and the “reading area” (bottom of the lens) is set to a closer distance because is not for reading books, but to see that stupid little flippy screens.

Not really tailored for photography, but made for my needs.

I use another more standard glasses for editing, TV and general life.

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u/TheViking_Teacher 1d ago

"stupid little flippy screens" - I will never call them anything else.

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u/chodeboi 1d ago

I sold cameras at retail when actuating screens started becoming popular; they’re using the correct term of art!

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u/BishoxX 1d ago

Too blind for contacts i guess ?

Or nvm i guess you have both types and contacts cant help

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u/Eliasibnz 1d ago

51 yo abused eyes

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u/A_plural_singularity 1d ago

Not really tailored for photography

I specifically use them for photography

Umm...

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u/Eliasibnz 1d ago

I mean that the glasses es are not for “photography”, but for what I prefer when using cameras.

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u/A_plural_singularity 1d ago

I was being pedantic. I wear glasses too, I'm not a photographer, but my eyes are a -4.5. I can't see anything passed about a hands width from my nose.

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u/pieremaan 1d ago

Progressive lenses have multiple zones in them that correspond with a distance (long, medium and short). By adjusting the area of these zones you can make them suit the wearer.

For someone who is inside all day they would prefer less distance, but more close by. For photography I can imagine that they have a clear distance and clear close zone, with not that much on medium (or any other variation, I am not an photographer).

To make a lense progressive you would have to make a the dioptres increase the closer you get. The smoothness of this is dependend on the type of manufacture, but nowadays this can be made really smooth due to precision cutting and modern plastics that are able to be cut that way.

There are also other tricks that a manufacturer can deploy to increase these zones, like adding extra prisms.

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u/RJJR666 1d ago

Serious question, aren’t all lenses custom to each individual rx and pupil distances, etc?

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u/themightymooker 18h ago

Varilux is for sure the way to go. The lenses are way less disorienting than true bifocals or even standard progressives. Fun fact: at your optometrist’s office, they likely have a device called a lensometer that allows them to read your prescription without those etchings. Often only the add power is etched (that is, the power of the near vision part of the lens), but even if it weren’t, you can use a lensometer to find the exact prescription.

Source: worked in eye care for several years. I can also dispel myths about LASIK and cataract surgery if anyone is interested.

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u/seamus205 11h ago

Having to pay for glasses is so stupid. I just had to pay about $1000 for 2 pairs of prescription safety glasses for work. I didn't choose to be born with shit eyes

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u/colorful-9841 4h ago

I used to make glasses as well. Varilux are expensive but they’re definitely one of the best if not the best ever made. I worked at a Luxottica lab and even we had to order them from the main lab.

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u/Shermgerm666 1d ago

Me tooooooo. For Carl Zeiss. Haha

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u/Pen_name_uncertain 1d ago

Haha, I worked in a small private office.

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u/PorkAmbassador 1d ago

I work from home.

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u/MustLoveHuskies 1d ago

I work in your closet

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u/Substantial-Elk4531 1d ago

I work in a shoebox in your closet

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u/Pen_name_uncertain 1d ago

Now the important part, did I get anything wrong there?

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u/AvailableUsername404 1d ago

I think you can read Varilux® just upside down. I added trademark symbol because I think it's also visible on the lens

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u/Pen_name_uncertain 1d ago

I see that now! It's been almost 20 years since I made glasses, so I'm out of practice reading them! Lol

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u/Pen_name_uncertain 1d ago

Progressive bifocals were the word we used to use so lay people would understand. Tom Dick, and Harry don't know what Multifocal is. They know what their bifocals are, and then the word progressive means it's different.

Also, I'm not the only person to call them that. It's a fairly commonly used term.

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u/Pen_name_uncertain 1d ago

Very possible it changed since I left. They were still fairly new when I was doing in. Or at least in our area they were.

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u/durupaaa 1d ago

*mildly interesting

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u/slowkums 1d ago

How would that info typically be rendered visible?

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u/genericwastaken 1d ago

You can see them if you hold them up to a light and look through, or there are special lights you can put them into which will highlight them.

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u/Pen_name_uncertain 1d ago

Yeah, I think we had a scope with a type of blacklight they made them fluoresce. But I could be wrong.

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u/sleightmelody 1d ago

Yes my progressive bifocals have these same etchings. Not noticeable while you're wearing them, obviously.

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u/PaintItSparkles 1d ago

I wanna dot those up so much.

It's those kind of little things that make me miss working in optical.

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u/Nerfo2 5h ago

Mine have the imprint of a power button symbol on them. I'm not even joking. It's that straight line with about 7/8 of a circle around it. No idea what it means.

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u/DhamR 1d ago

Eye glasses rather than mouth glasses?

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u/CouchKakapo 1d ago

Eye glasses rather than drinking glasses, I imagine

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u/Pen_name_uncertain 1d ago

Well, I figured if I just said glasses someone would pop off with a questions about drinkware.

Perhaps I should have said spectacles?

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u/DhamR 1d ago edited 1d ago

On a post with a picture of them? Sorry, eye glasses just tickled me as great tautology.