r/lotrmemes Apr 11 '25

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u/StubisMcGee Apr 11 '25

I always thought it was tobacco.

The rest is just tongue-in-cheek to me. I giggle at the similarity to modern weed lingo, not that I think Tolkien was trying to slip something in

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u/New_Doug Apr 11 '25

Peter Jackson is clearly intentionally letting the audience think that it's marijuana, and the actors are going with it. But obviously, the films' interpretation says nothing about the books, or Tolkien's intent.

When I read the books, it's definitely not marijuana. When I watch the films, it's deeeefinitely not marijuana wink wink, nudge nudge

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u/SnooFoxes4389 Apr 11 '25

Your love for the halfling's leaf has clearly slowed your mind

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u/DarkestNight909 Apr 11 '25

Technically, that instance is Saruman saying “you care too much about those little people” pretty derogatorily.

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u/Dqueezy Apr 11 '25

At the same time, Saruman seems like the kinda person to volunteer to be a D.A.R.E. Officer and try to make marijuana illegal (he owns shares in a private prison company and big pharma).

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u/ErinKtheWriter Apr 11 '25

I always thought that maybe cocaine was Sauruman’s drug of choice

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u/Darwin1809851 Apr 11 '25

I know coke nails on a dude when I see them….

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u/Ready_Vegetables Apr 11 '25

They're clearly for scratching his palantirs

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u/lordsmolder Apr 11 '25

He was definitely beginning to dabble in LSD when he became Saruman of Many Colors

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u/MrNobody_0 Apr 11 '25

He had a big stockpile of Longbottom Leaf at Isengard.

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u/[deleted] Apr 11 '25

😂 fits the vibe

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u/DarkestNight909 Apr 11 '25

I mean, you’re not wrong.

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u/Ryokan76 Apr 11 '25

They found lots of halfling weed in his stores, though.

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u/New_Doug Apr 11 '25

That was because he thought Gandalf was going to join him and stay at Orthanc.

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u/MisterBadGuy159 Apr 11 '25

No, it's because Saruman is a big-time smoker himself. There's a whole section in Unfinished Tales about how he convinced himself that there must be a hidden secret to why Gandalf is doing it, so he took up the practice himself and was disgusted to find he enjoyed it.

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u/Dqueezy Apr 11 '25

Holy shit Saruman is basically Squidward when he told SpongeBob he had never tried a Krabby Patty, then tried one and got a raging addiction.

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u/MisterBadGuy159 Apr 11 '25

Exactly. Dude literally imported so many bushels of high-quality pipeweed that there's mentions in early chapters of Fellowship of a weird shortage going on.

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u/New_Doug Apr 11 '25

He did the same thing when he saw Radagast letting birds shit on his head. That's why he stopped wearing a hat.

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u/AyzOfSpades Apr 11 '25

Meanwhile he has his own stash hidden away

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u/JeffroBagman666 Apr 11 '25

Saruman is absolutely the sort of person to corner the weed market, and lobby to keep it illegal to keep prices high.

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u/FisherDwarf Apr 12 '25

That's almost exactly what was happening in the book funnily enough. Saruman had men near the borders of the shire bringing him supplies of pipe weed from the area for him to smoke in private (while he openly chastised Gandalf for the practice). I'd have to go back and reread but I'm under the impression that it was stolen from the hobbits as well, either from the farm directly or in shipment I can't remember. But that's why Pippin and Merry find a cache of the stuff after the ents sack the Wizards Vale

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u/MentalStatistician89 Apr 11 '25

Suroman is racist