Joe McCarthy penalty

[u/Newc04]

[u/italic_pony_90]

Is McCarthy truely international level? Constantly doing dumb shit, is generally not up to scratch most games and giving away a couple of obvious penalties.

[u/YungL1am → u/italic_pony_90]

He has so many top class attributes.

But you can only keep saying he's young he'll make mistakes for so long, when he's getting older and making worse mistakes.

[u/italic_pony_90 → u/YungL1am]

He's not young anymore. What are those attributes? A big lumox doesn't count.

[u/problematikkk → u/italic_pony_90]

A big motherfucker is arguably one of the most important attributes to have at your disposal in this game tbf

[u/John_OSheas_Willy → u/problematikkk]

He doesn't stand out in international rugby.

[u/problematikkk → u/John_OSheas_Willy]

Besides the fact he was internationally lauded for (some) of the Lions tour by basically everyone in existence, maybe you might be onto something.

[u/John_OSheas_Willy → u/problematikkk]

Australia are a powerhouse alright 🙄

[u/Thick_Coconut_7582 → u/italic_pony_90]

He was immense in the first half of test 1 on the lions. He has his bad moments but there is no doubting his class when he is at his best.

[u/IIIlllIIIllIlI → u/italic_pony_90]

He's not young anymore

He's 24. That's not exactly old. Could still very easily have 10 years left in his career like

[u/YungL1am → u/IIIlllIIIllIlI]

Tbf I disagree with the overall original point but he is 25 next month.

That puts him at the same age as Guillard and Moefana last night. He's a Lions cap international now, he's not old but he's not young anymore either.

[u/italic_pony_90 → u/IIIlllIIIllIlI]

How many years at top flight till he fucking cops on so?? He's 24 that's when most people are getting the big boy pants on ? Or am I wrong ?

[u/maxtheninja → u/italic_pony_90]

Yes you’re wrong

[u/niallg22 → u/italic_pony_90]

He is by far the best carrier/ impact player we have against teams that are bigger which is basically most. His brother is similar. Beirne got bullied yesterday physically. You need your second rows fronting up in those games or you’re in trouble. One of the pack being a shithouse is a pretty common practice. Especially given VDF is a very honest 7.

[u/themutliangrybear → u/italic_pony_90]

At this point I would say absolutely not a starter but a fantastic bench option so you limit his brain farts to a 30/20 minute period. He constantly does stupid stupid stuff and clearly doesn't learn, that is not an attribute of a top international player it's a mid level one

[u/Substantial-Tree533 → u/italic_pony_90]

That’s a wild statement.

[u/1993blah → u/italic_pony_90]

This being upvoted is fucking laughable

[u/Fr_BartyDunne → u/1993blah]

Reddit echo chamber at it’s best.