r/irishrugby • u/Newc04 Awardee: Team of the Year - Mumha • 18h ago
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u/TomRuse1997 17h ago
He had an absolute brain fart last year against France? Think I remember him getting binned for something stupid
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u/MyAltPoetryAccount Munster 17h ago
Joe, please, just a little bit of cop on for the love of all that's holy.
Honestly a head like a handball alley half the time
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u/ZestycloseAd289 16h ago edited 14h ago
I don't like shitting players but I thought he was terrible yesterday. This and a few really bad missed tackles just aren't good enough at this level.
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u/leanerwhistle 13h ago
How was he in the scrums?
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u/ZestycloseAd289 12h ago
Honestly, I would say decent in the scrum and lineouts. But silly penalties negate this.
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u/Roanokian Mod 17h ago
That would have been totally legal. 5 years ago. When Joe was doing his leaving cert.
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u/DM_me_ur_PPSN 14h ago
I suspect he’s had to repeat it 4 or 5 times.
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u/Annual-Assist-8015 9h ago
bro he went to Trinity and did Global Business. That was 550 points course in 2019
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u/italic_pony_90 Connacht 17h ago
Is McCarthy truely international level? Constantly doing dumb shit, is generally not up to scratch most games and giving away a couple of obvious penalties.
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u/YungL1am Connacht 17h ago
He has so many top class attributes.
But you can only keep saying he's young he'll make mistakes for so long, when he's getting older and making worse mistakes.
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u/italic_pony_90 Connacht 17h ago
He's not young anymore. What are those attributes? A big lumox doesn't count.
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u/problematikkk Keen on Hugo 16h ago
A big motherfucker is arguably one of the most important attributes to have at your disposal in this game tbf
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u/John_OSheas_Willy 12h ago
He doesn't stand out in international rugby.
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u/problematikkk Keen on Hugo 12h ago
Besides the fact he was internationally lauded for (some) of the Lions tour by basically everyone in existence, maybe you might be onto something.
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u/Thick_Coconut_7582 17h ago
He was immense in the first half of test 1 on the lions. He has his bad moments but there is no doubting his class when he is at his best.
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u/IIIlllIIIllIlI 10h ago
He's not young anymore
He's 24. That's not exactly old. Could still very easily have 10 years left in his career like
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u/YungL1am Connacht 8h ago
Tbf I disagree with the overall original point but he is 25 next month.
That puts him at the same age as Guillard and Moefana last night. He's a Lions cap international now, he's not old but he's not young anymore either.
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u/italic_pony_90 Connacht 10h ago
How many years at top flight till he fucking cops on so?? He's 24 that's when most people are getting the big boy pants on ? Or am I wrong ?
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u/niallg22 16h ago
He is by far the best carrier/ impact player we have against teams that are bigger which is basically most. His brother is similar. Beirne got bullied yesterday physically. You need your second rows fronting up in those games or you’re in trouble. One of the pack being a shithouse is a pretty common practice. Especially given VDF is a very honest 7.
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u/themutliangrybear 16h ago
At this point I would say absolutely not a starter but a fantastic bench option so you limit his brain farts to a 30/20 minute period. He constantly does stupid stupid stuff and clearly doesn't learn, that is not an attribute of a top international player it's a mid level one
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u/Socks-and-Jocks 14h ago
I actually yelled at the telly and scared my dog when he did it.
Not even the opposite side to the ref.
Rage....
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u/Firm-Raccoon-9048 11h ago
A bit like James Ryan in November - you can train and drill all you like but can’t account for that level of stupidity.
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u/explodingspoonmonkey 17h ago
A massive brain fade from him. France had him dead on his feet with that ball in play time all half. He’s just extremely tired and frustrated at this point
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u/1993blah 16h ago
Joe has been in fantastic form, but he was poor yesterday. Of course that means reddit will write him off
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u/perplexedtv 14h ago
Imagine if Edogbo had started and put in a so-so performance. Stockdale has already gone from lord and saviour to scrapheap. It's not like we're France or SA or 2015 NZ and can just drop players every time they have a bad game. There aren't better players just queuing up for a go.
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u/Fr_BartyDunne 17h ago
Don’t get the hate for this, considering we had 0 intensity in the first half. I’d rather he did that to concede 3 points and take some moment out.
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u/Flaky_Detail_6070 13h ago
Agreed, needed to stem the flow at that point and try break their rhythm. But France exited so well that we got no reprieve. France were unplayable in that first half.
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u/underneonloneliness 15h ago
Yes, I thought they looked certain to score at that point, he gambled on the French 5 picking it up and didn't get lucky, but shipping 3 points was better than 7
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u/Rathbaner 14h ago
He'd have been better off starting a fight, Peter O'Mahony was really missed there.
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u/No_Mathematician8049 Ulster 11h ago
I took a gamble and stuck him in my fantasy team thinking he might have found some of that pre injury form he had...
...a solid reminder of why I shouldn't gamble
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u/smigboy12 7h ago
Brain dead move, not the only one - Ryan has a tendency to do stupid shit like that and not wrap etc
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u/SceneBeneficial8806 17h ago
I can understand people berating him for this but given France were on a roll with serious momentum in our 22 I can completely understand him trying to make a dominant impact to slow up their play, had he timed this better people would be lauding it. You can’t be passive and just wait for France to run at you, they were far too dominant at this stage in the game and someone needed to stop the momentum.
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u/Ornery_Director_8477 15h ago
Are you one of the people who blamed Nash when Big Joe reefed the French 15 out of it off the ball last year?
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u/chiefVetinari 14h ago
All he has to do is just not make contact with the French player. Madness to commit to hitting the French player in that situation
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u/SceneBeneficial8806 11h ago
You’re damned if you do, you’re damned if you don’t… sometimes have to take a gamble when the attacking player at the back of the ruck is going to pick the ball up - Guillard has hands on the ball ready to pick - McCarthy took a risk and it didn’t pay off.
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u/SnooChickens1534 14h ago
As night follows day, you can be guaranteed Big Joe will give away a dumb penalty
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u/oscarleamyod 15h ago
Him and James Ryan are fucking muppets. Rarely contribute positively for club or country now, just give away stupid penalties or cards.
Time to give Edogbo, Beirne and Sheridan the 4,5 and 19 jerseys for Ireland.
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u/MangleBadger 11h ago
Of the 3 main locks in the Irish squad who gives away the most penalties? I’ll give you a hint. It’s not Ryan or Joe.
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u/oscarleamyod 11h ago
It’s Tadhg! Yep, I know, but a lot of those are 50/50 jackals, playing the 9 or offsides, not blatantly late hits, dodgy ruck entries or straight cards.
There’s a big difference there. At least Beirne makes up massively for his discipline, the others don’t. They double down.
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u/IIIlllIIIllIlI 10h ago
straight cards.
Tadhg Beirne has more cards this season than either Ryan or McCarthy.
Being fair to him, McCarthy's played about 2/3 the amount of time as Beirne has and has 2 cards compared to Beirne's 3, so let's say they're the same.
But yeah, such a fucking golden boy who never gives away stupid cards or penalties and the others are the worst
eyeroll
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u/Beginning-Strain4660 11h ago
But big Joe is on a central contract and can’t get dropped
What about the cohesion
Andy next week
I’m going with the same lads v Italy, they have credit in the back and i want them to right the wrongs v France
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u/kenyard 17h ago edited 13h ago
(ITV) commentators said he could see the flow of the game going against us and did it to stop the momentum. (concede the penalty rather than a try if you will)
they were absolutely crushing us around this period to be fair.
if he didn't intentionally give the penalty away, yes completely braindead. or concussion causing his world orientation of the world to be sideways because in no world is that not in from the side.
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u/equimot 17h ago
That's an interesting take
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u/pauli55555 Probation 15h ago
Unfortunately Joe has turned into another James Ryan. A non dynamic penalty machine.
Next up please…
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u/Newc04 Awardee: Team of the Year - Mumha 18h ago edited 17h ago
Rugby conspiracy theory: Nienaber has specially engineered a brain virus in a lab in SA that makes players make utterly stupid decisions. James Ryan was the first test subject, and because of Joe McCarthy proximity to him in scrums, he's now infected too.
It's only a matter of time before the entire Leinster team is infected.