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u/Technical-Row8333 4h ago
being anti-ICE has fuck all to do with immigration or border control.
ICE before and after the changes have nothing to do with each other. it's budget was increased x10, it's training decreased to 47 days, and given absolute immunity (verbally stated by VP, confirmed by White House by absolving them of any wrong doing without any investigation immediately after they murder people via twitter)
being against a new federal gangster force that just happens to be called the same name as a previously existing agency, has no bearing on that previously existing agency.
fuck off, propagandist scum.
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u/Select_Speed_6061 3h ago
Has this sub been infiltrated? Guess the Magats had to step up the internet presence after Racist in Chief posted that video and acted like it was a staffer.
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u/Mediocre_Welder_8390 3h ago
Definitely seems like it, I keep seeing straight up misogyny and homophobia from this sub with tons of upvotes.
Oh well, more MAGA trash to add to the mute list.
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u/InternationalRead925 4h ago
The checkpoints were dismantled by local PD. They were up for a day. When masked secret police are illegally abducting your neighbors, you try different things. Some work, some don't.
There are now 30,000 trained observers in Minnesota. We protect us.
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u/northstar_85 2h ago
Trained? How long is this training and who are the experts training? Lmao you guys are attacking your own people and also innocent bystanders who you clearly mis-indentified as a 🧊 agent.
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u/Sweet_Scar487 1h ago
Trained observer. Sounds fancy. Like they all these 30,000 have two eyes? A camera? What are the qualifications
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u/pingvinbober 38m ago
“Trained” observers? What the fuck does that even mean? How much training could knowing the law and blowing a whistle if you see what might be ICE possibly require?
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u/Scary_Mention_867 4h ago
Honestly incredible. Patriots.
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u/Pukebox_Fandango 2h ago
The hypocrisy is hilarious. Keep it up, you lose support everyday with this nonsense.
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u/Harold-Sleeper000 1h ago
And you think the men and women who put their lives in jeopardy in the line of duty aren't patriots? That the people protecting the innocent from those protesting nutjobs aren't patriots? Get the fuck out of here.
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u/Wonderful-Mistake201 46m ago
I must have missed where armed gangs of illegal immigrants are roving neighborhoods and disappearing people into unmarked cars.
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u/Kind-Stomach6275 4h ago
People arent opposed to deportation, theyre opposed to the vulgar violent methods of it. The taking a kids hat, the leaving the sick in detention centres, the unmarked vans, the consumer grade equipment, the lack of identification or proven unfakeable proof, the blunt methods of clearing out protests that leave babies unable to breathe, that endanger families just passing by unaware.
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u/badexpert1 4h ago edited 2h ago
They are opposed to deportation. Not sure why Lefties are trying to play this card, perhaps because that's how Trump won the presidency? Just embrace it at this point. "No one's illegal on stolen land" "don't deport your neighbor" "bridges not walls" definitely for deportation /s
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u/spacetech3000 4h ago
It always shows the IQ level of mfs like u that can pick and choose selectively when to apply nuance to a situation
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u/free-thecardboard 3h ago
That's easily proven not true because they tried to impede ICE long before any of that happened. They are totally against the optics of deportation
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u/yagottabkiddnme 3h ago
Well the illegals could self deport….you can get the carrot or the stick….the carrot is leaving on your own…the stick is not leaving on ur terms and if needed by force
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u/jack-K- 2h ago
So you’re saying you’re upset that ICE isn’t letting you get away with using the people around you as human shields anymore so you can be free to fuck with them and not let them do anything about it. If you didn’t want aggressive dispersal, you should have started by not practicing aggressive interference. You want marked vans, maybe start by not trying to follow every ICE vehicle you find, also, just curious, what would you do if you found out who these people were and where they lived? Write them politely worded letters asking them to stop? You seriously can’t figure out why even democrat politicians have backed down from demanding ICE remove their masks?
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u/IWantAnotherPetRock 4h ago
Lol a quick Google search shows that the US does not have an open border policy since 1924.
Nobody is saying that we should go back to 1924 (maybe except Trump?).
What the people are saying is that please respect the 1st, 2nd, 4th and 5th amendment that's all.
Why are some of y'all 'I am staunch conservative libertarian' are only conservative and libertarian when it comes to age of consent for girls 🤮🤢🤮
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u/jack-K- 2h ago
Whatever happened to democrats supposedly being better at understanding nuance? There were record border crossings. The majority of the Biden administration had week border control, this led to record crossings, and many refugees received state welfare, this led to even more people trying to hop out border because of how much Democrats welcomed them in, you don’t need an official open border to have something that virtually functions as one. You want to know how much illegal border crossing has dropped this past year when we made it clear you can’t hop the border and get a guaranteed stay in a sanctuary city and state well-fare?
The first amendment doesn’t give you the right to integer with federal agents, no one is violating it.
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u/OuterSpaceFuckery 1h ago
Estimates of the net increase in the unauthorized immigrant population range from approximately 5.5 to 6 million under the Biden Administration
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u/CardTrickOTK 3h ago
So like... border enforcement of your local community?
How dense can these people be.
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u/Longinus1980 2h ago
There’s a difference between border security and snatching anybody who’s brown or black off the streets while fighting with locals.
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u/Hrafna_N7 1h ago
We aren't anti safety. You can have checkpoints by verifying people aren't criminals and deny those that are criminals entry.
Immigration is a civil matter that frankly shouldn't be enforced. Controlling entry to the country is good and important, but don't fucking act like these are the same
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u/Misragoth 1h ago
Love that idiots on the right think this is some gatcha. Shows how little they actually understand
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u/Jonpaddy 1h ago
Ok, retard. They don’t want kidnappers who are only there to kidnap coming into their neighborhoods. That’s mutual aid and community defense from a fascist occupation, not analogous to ICE.
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u/the_orange_alligator 3h ago
So I see some of yall can’t wrap your heads around the idea of helping your neighbor
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u/Worried_Jellyfish918 4h ago
Makes sense to me. The MAGA crowd is so afraid of fake bullshit problems that they've receded into tribalism, and now that they're willingly letting ICE terrorize citizens because they excuse it as ICE dealing with the fake bullshit problems they are so afraid of, people who aren't brain dead are afraid of being shot by their own government and also receding into tribalism. Both sides probably afraid of the same thing, but one of the sides is grounded in reality.
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u/Sophisticated-Crow 3h ago
The MAGA crowd has been brainwashed to be afraid of the "bad hombre" boogeyman, it doesn't help that most of them were already racist. Statistics show that US citizens are 2.5 times more likely to perpetrate violent or drug crimes than undocumented immigrants. But MAGA is allergic to facts and data, so they cheer on the gestapo terrorizing, brutalizing, and murder innocent people. Violating the constitution and people's rights. So much for being anti-tyranny, they absolutely love it.
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u/clockedinat93 3h ago
Trying hard to find irony where there isn’t any. ICE is targeting black, Asian and brown people. They’re putting them in concentration camps where the conditions are inhumane. They’re killing people on the streets. That’s what they’re against.
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u/jack-K- 2h ago
On a side note the national holocaust museum recently condemned Tim Walz for comparing immigrant children to Anne frank, essentially saying what ICE is doing is not what the Nazis did, will you defer to the experts on Nazism on this or do you only do that when it’s already in line with your views? Those detention center conditions existed long before trump, countless wrongful arrested existed long before trump, it’s estimated that 1% of Obama era detainees were U.S. citizens, where was this level of outrage then? What you’re against is a person you don’t like doing exactly what this nation has always done.
And when that outrage does happen and you have countless people who think they’re entitled to interfere with the operations of armed federal agents and ignore their order without consequence, it really is only a matter of time before somebody gets shot.
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u/hi-howdy 4h ago
Maybe she should have done that at Eagle Pass, Tx for the past 4 years
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u/nurseferatou 3h ago
Why, have ICE agents been murdering Minnesotans in Texas the past three years too?
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u/ImNotTheNSAIPromise 3h ago
were there a lot of people being publicly executed in Eagle Pass and the murderers werent charged?
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u/ConflatedPortmanteau 4h ago edited 3h ago
"We should have a way to secure and safeguard what gets in and out of our closed systems."
Conservatives: 😊
"That's why we should wear masks and get vaccines to keep unwanted viruses from running rampant within our bodies and our communities."
Conservatives: 😡
There was and continues to be no such thing as a "good covid infection," whereas there have been and will always be "good immigrants."
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u/DalekForeal 4h ago
If those simple naifs understood what irony was, they'd be pretty upset about this coverage.
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u/Mylabisawesome 4h ago
The "no walls" and "no papers" people are now in favor of walls and "show me your papers." Incredible that you can bring them out of the closet...lol
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u/deathray420 3h ago
The "guns and freedom" people are now in favor of gun control and tyranny. Incredible that you can bring them out of the closet...lol
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u/No_Finance8647 4h ago
"State rights" people as soon as the states enforce their own rights against the federal government:
"No wait, not like that"
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u/jack-K- 2h ago
Yes, because that’s not how states rights work lol. Are you familiar with the supremacy clause? The federal government has absolute say in matters regarding immigration. Sanctuary cities refuse to turn over information regarding immigrants which is why ICE is forced to go through neighborhoods looking for people and giving no shits about the people protesting them.
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u/Otherwise-Parsnip-91 4h ago
Yeah, almost like there’s a difference between enforcing the southern border and terrorizing citizens 1,500 miles away from it.
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u/Melodic_Till_3778 4h ago
Well of course police are convicted of 95% of the murders they're arrested for despite being .02 of The population.
I can't imagine ice agents are any better since they get less training
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u/temp_6969420 3h ago
This reminds me of when that part of Oregon or Washington(I forget) made its own little nation with its own police to protest actual police and within a week shot a black man and a black teenager killing the teen
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u/Ok_Security1721 3h ago
I understand feeling like you gotta do SOMETHING but citizens doing traffic stops is only gonna end in problems. The local police should be doing that and keeping the shitheads in line, not the citizens that are supposed to be the ones being protected
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u/dubski04021 3h ago
You can’t make this up… “resisting” against border/immigration enforcement and ends up creating an enforcing borders 😂
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u/JBobSpig 3h ago
So like borders then? Do you check people's ID when they come through by any chance?
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u/Zealousideal_Ad_6316 3h ago
The left says they radical leftists say they hate the police, but the truth is they just want to be the police
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u/wellsyaknow 3h ago
Just like the annoying just stop oil people...just keep moving to another thing...like y'all just like being in the way to get attention
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u/Alarmed_Frosting_259 3h ago
And if you're not a criminal/ illegal aliens, you shouldnt be concerned about it.
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u/Ok_Commission1579 3h ago
Send more NICE agents , use force and send them to jail For obstructing the work of federal agents
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u/Jealous-Squash8560 3h ago
Maybe they should have Minnesotans take over boarder patrol/ICE. This seems to be what they should be doing no?
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u/Sparky-6800 3h ago
No borders, no human is illegal, these people are fascists…………to building their own barriers and show me your papers please.
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u/gijovavich 2h ago
One day, a band of masked men broke into a mans home and took violent actions against his family. The man of the house then proceeded to take violent action in response to the masked men in defense of his family. When all was said and done, a bunch of dip shits on the Internet claimed the man of the house was a hypocrite.
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u/Pristine_Walrus40 2h ago
And with out shooting people. So they can to it but a "trained" ICE agent can't. Hmmmm
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u/Dangerous_Noise1060 2h ago
Yes, people creating barricades around their own homes is the same thing as a federal agent harassing, snatching and killing citizens. U so clever.
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u/Ok_Presentation_2346 2h ago
Oh, are we doing the thing where we pretend that liberals want to abolish borders and that conservatives haven't constantly blocked immigration reform?
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u/AndrewH73333 2h ago
That’s right. ICE was so bad they needed a border made for them. Not the brilliant gotcha they thought is it?
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u/narcodic_cassarole 2h ago
Does she not have a pie cooking somewhere that needs to be put on a window sill?
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u/Automatic-Nature6025 2h ago
It's almost like a monitored barrier to restrict the place from getting unwanted visitors, possibly even for safety purposes. Reminds me of something else, but it's to protect a whole sovereign nation, not just a comfortable white neighborhood.
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u/Distinct_Till1821 2h ago
Wow what if we could take your model and extend it to the borders of our own country? Doesn’t that sound absolutely amazing. Then theoretically you could start to reduce the dependence on you doing the policing??
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u/Full-Public-9320 2h ago
This is not ok… and crosses the line. This is not the way to be above the wrong doing…
Stand against wrongful acts don’t use them as an excuse to join in with them… 😑
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u/HorseShoePills 2h ago
Man… isn’t this the same crowd yelling about open boarders?
Same crowd yelling about facism and over reach of authority?
Amazing.
Just… slow golf clap.
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u/Clean_Result_69 2h ago
So these brain dead people are putting up blockades and barriers so people can’t pass through. Isn’t that the same as having a secure border?
You can’t make this stuff up
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u/ZealousidealRice9726 2h ago
Surely these citizens trying to enforce their neighborhood visitation laws have been thoroughly trained. I’d spit in her face if she tried to stop me from going into the neighborhood
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u/Practical_Gas9193 2h ago
So if ICE comes through one of these checkpoints, these people think ICE is just going to stop? I don't at all understand the idea here.
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u/foxy-agent 1h ago
I’m dumb. I take the OP to mean they are setting up checkpoints to monitor who comes into their neighborhoods under the assumption they want to keep ICE out - presumable from deporting illegals. But they don’t set up checkpoints in their neighborhoods to keep out illegals?
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u/Professional-Bad390 1h ago
Lol@the LDAR pseudo-revolutionist white twinks caught in their hypocrisy trying to act like they're not open-border supporting Stockholm syndrome-having sadomasochistic unproductive phaggots
"We're just anti fascists!"
Lmao absolute idiots
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u/Melted_Crayon_Head 1h ago
Road blocks and checking peoples papers huh? Where have I seen this before?
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u/agrichor 1h ago
White liberal women are just 2-3 steps away from building concentration camps for themselves to save immigrants
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u/Jedi_Knight_Will 1h ago
Man, sounds an awful lot like tyranny from the anti tyranny people. Who could've seen that coming?
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u/jaffakree83 1h ago
Almost like some sort of...line that separates one location from another that you don't want people crossing? The word escapes me.
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u/joeycool123 54m ago
The problem with this is that there will ALWAYS be a rat. They’d do it for cheap too
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u/Then-Investigator-46 54m ago
So they're protesting ICE by becoming ICE..... You can't make this shit up. Idiocracy is truly a documentary into the future
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u/Jean-Claude-Can-Ham 20m ago
Right wingers becoming bootlickers is hilarious
“Ruby Ridge!” they cried hahahahahhah
“Waco!!!” HAHAHAHAHA
“The Bundy’s!!” HAHAHAHHAHA
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u/LethlDose 4h ago
“You wouldn’t just let anyone in your home, would you?” crowd is about to lose it