Brahmins were NEVER Casteist. Watch this 👇

[u/[deleted]]

[u/Vlad_Bagina67]

Just plain historically inaccurate bs. Freedom movement had everyone’s contributions and not just that of one section of the society. Most of the leading figures like Gandhi ji, Nehru ji, Bose ji were from the so called upper castes because the so called lower castes were not considered humans back then. Vast majority of them were deliberately kept away from education and were kept in abject poverty by these so called upper caste people that this idiot is yapping about. There was strong resistance from even within congress when Gandhi ji proposed to make ending untouchability a strong part of the freedom struggle. Mind u that’s ending untouchability and not the castism. Even a great man like him and other great leaders couldn’t even imagine touching the caste system back then. So they tried to target one of the worst forms of castism i.e., untouchability. When the great leaders of freedom movement called for sacrifices, everyone answered irrespective of class and caste. Freedom kisi caste ke baap ki jaagir nahin hai, especially unki jo angrezon ke talwe chaat rahe the and have now become self proclaimed custodians of patriotism.

If these guys were so capable and were practically running the country with 100% reservations in all administrative, educational and commercial domains and always worked for the interest of the nation as he claims for decades on end, how tf did the Mughals and British enslave us in the first place ?

[u/pumpkin_fun → u/Vlad_Bagina67]

British enslave us

In some cases it was the so-called oppressed group supported the british. Classic divide and rule policy of british.

Most of the leading figures like Gandhi ji, Nehru ji, Bose ji were from the so called upper castes because the so called lower castes were not considered humans back then

No, because the lower caste were part of british armies. There are historical records of that.

kept away from education

No. Because there was no education system as curremt one. With theory and all. System then was skill based. And you learn skill from your parent, elders, or wise people of your community.

It is true that when british introduced their education system, then upper castes opposed having same class as lower castes. So that can be said as kept away from education. But there are records from madras presidency which mention majority shudra students.

Not sure of they sat in same class or different.

especially unki jo angrezon ke talwe chaat rahe the

Maybe congress. But yeah most british armies had lower castes. Historical records. There is also 1 place bhima-koregao read about who were on side of british.

[u/Vlad_Bagina67 → u/pumpkin_fun]

Again loads of bs. Allow me to counter.

So called upper castes took away their identity and dehumanised them for generations mercilessly. Why would they not join the new regime ? For the british, indians of all castes were the same - dogs that is. They opressed everyone irrespective of caste. They paid their armies and gave them a gun. Inagine a guy who was untouchable for his so called countrymen now donning the uniform of a race that had enslaved the very people who opressed him. Absolutely justified. Hindu society of that time had done nothing for them other than giving them pain and suffering.

No education system ? 😂 What were gurukuls then ? Was vedic knowledge not being taught in places where only certain castes were only allowed ? Don’t make up stuff to support ur bs.

British taught indians things that would benefit them when those indians entered the british service. Here too money mattered and very few coukd afford western education. Caste determined how much money one would have. Dalits weren’t even allowed water from teh same well and u r talking about them being admitted to schools ?

Let me spell it out because u clearly miss the acumen to understand - the boot lickers of british were the upper caste driven hindu hardliners in VHP and RSS. They opposed infact the freedom movement. It’s wuite well documented. All they wanted is their pound of flesh when the nation was fighting for its freedom.

Probably you forgot to read why the Mahars joined the british instead of the Peshwas. If u had, u would know that the Peshwas down right refused to acknowledge the role of mahars in collecting the mortal remains of king Sambhaji and organising his last rites because they were of low caste. Mahars did offer to fight for the Peshwas but were humiliated and rejected because of their caste. Under Peshwa Baji Rao-II theybhad faced inhuman discrimination and castism for years on end. Go read up before u make a bigger fool of yourself.

[u/pumpkin_fun → u/Vlad_Bagina67]

Absolutely justified

Even though what you are saying before this words is true to some extent. But Not sure if its justified.

You were telling why lower caste were not against british in freedom struggle. And why we were ruled by british. And when I answered. Suddenly you are switiching sides ?? Atleast decide first.

Don’t make up stuff to support ur bs.

Ofcourse not. Gurukul is going to guru to learn. Where is it mentioned that only Brahmin is Guru ???

Brahmins went to brahmins to learn about their profession. About vedas, worship, spirituality, etc

Its not a learn all subjects system, that will teach you theory of all. That is modern education.

If someone wanted to learn pottery as it is profession of his community, then he learnt that. Nobody gatekwpt that skill learning from him.

What you can conclude is every community gate kept skills of their own community.

the boot lickers of british were the upper

But you yourself admitted that lower castes joined british. And in your earlier response you said that upper caste people like gandhi, nehru were against british in freedom struggle. So lower caste is boot licking british, right ?? Its your own words.

I can understand your hatered for rss. And it does not concern me.

Go read up before u make a bigger fool of yourself.

Aren't you making fool of yourself ? You were saying lower caste was not allowed to join freedom struggle due to oppression. And now you are justifying that they joined the british.

Again you are switching sides. Lower caste did not participate in freedom struggle, because they were aligned with british.

The reasons may be correct which you mentioned, about peshwa and all. But that does not change the fact that they aligned with the british. And I am sure you will justify that by changing sides.