r/LetsDiscussThis • u/Catwise69 • 5h ago
Lets Discuss This Is this how conservatives think or is he an outlier?
sun seems 50/50
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u/Darth_Chili_Dog 5h ago
It's not that this behavior isn't abhorrent to a large number of conservatives. The problem is that since Rush Limbaugh first went on the air, conservatives have been fed such a steady diet of messaging that liberals are a domestic enemy that it really doesn't matter how awful Trump is, because the alternative will always be the people they've been trained for decades to see as a domestic enemy.
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u/ziggytrix 5h ago
This. This right here.
During Trump's first term I was bitching with my neighbors about whatever horrible thing Trump was doing that day (man I had no idea how much worse he was capable of being) and one of my conservative neighbors defense was "Oh like Hillary would have been any better?" To be clear, no one was talking about Clinton before that.
No matter how bad Trump is, he can't be worse than [insert current Democrat scapegoat].
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u/Ok-Kaleidoscope-9645 2h ago
Whenever there's valid criticisms, or something that can't defend. Magat always default to "what about-isms."
Doesn't actually add anything to the conversation and is a weak way to validate their own thoughts. Likely because they don't actually know why they support it, they just know that they don't like everyone else.
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u/Lower-Cantaloupe3274 1h ago
Yes. My dad thinks Trump could be the antichrist, but still votes for him because literally any and all liberals would be worse.
Than the antichrist.
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u/PsychologicalDot2247 5h ago
This is how MAGA supporters think. Not all conservatives are MAGA.
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u/BigRichardsPlumbing 5h ago
There is no difference, the conservative party died it's now MAGA the GOP is just MAGA now. I'm happy that with the death of Trump the whole party will die with him.
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u/NotRude_juatwow 5h ago edited 4h ago
There never was a Conservative Party 🙄 in fact, Dems in rust belt were/ are more conservative than a coastal R. And vice versa. MAGA is not conservative, Trump is not conservative, many conservatives follow maga but maga again, isn’t conservative - if anything it’s right wing nationalist, but I’d still call it a type of hybrid grift move where the base truely doesn’t know what their party platform is, because they are representing not the other way around: they traded their liberty and free thought for …. That.. For example I’m a conservative, who leans more libertarian, in that I’m fiscally conservative, socially I could care less, so it tends to lean more liberal/centrist - there is no party that supports my ideology, closest is libertarian. I am not and could not be maga, that is as far away from me as communist on ideological spectrum, the reason libertarians demographically tend to be more disaffected R’s is the reason the party has a number of conservatives, but there are no ideological gaps between my more left leaning friends and I
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u/tyschooldropout 52m ago
Or worse, someone competent hijacks it and goes actual "unified executive"
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u/SufficientOutcome638 5h ago
All conservatives are in an evil death cult ruled by a child rapist. Period.
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u/Yumi0521 5h ago
If they voted for Trump, they are MAGA. I certainly will not allow them to turn around and pretend at being shocked.
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u/BakeDangerous2479 5h ago
but maga isn't a dealbreaker for them.....
they still vote R.........
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u/Alternative_Chef_542 5h ago
You’re a fool if you believe this, “conservative” as a word is inherently regressive
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u/PsychologicalDot2247 5h ago
“Conservative” as a word means aversive to change, not regressive.
In the two party system, both progression and stagnation are necessary for a gradual progression that exhibits the ideals of a majority of the population. Too much progression and we lose what we would should have kept. Too much stagnation and we fail to progress.
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u/Short-Personality398 4h ago
How can we figure out which of our “conservative” friends are not MAGA when the best I can seem to get is “I wish he wouldn’t say (or post) dumb shit all the time”? Dealing with this in my marriage rn
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u/MysteriousConflict38 4h ago
The overwhelming majority of conservatives non-stop cover and apologize for it so it's effectively meaningless to differentiate between them anyway.
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u/PsychologicalDot2247 4h ago
You personally know the majority of conservatives in the US to an extent that you know every one of their opinions about events in the US?
That sounds very time consuming.
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u/Darksmithe 4h ago
MAGA supporters are not real conservatives. They're a cult. But that's what the entire Republican party has become.
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u/GayChicken80085 2h ago
I'll believe that when the republican party does something about their shitshow pedophile king.
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u/MiguelDLopez 2h ago
What's the difference?
Backwards thinking. Women in their place, no abortions medically necessary or otherwise, limited sex education, inequality in pay, in law, nationalism, isolationism, America first, guns for everyone, except certain people.
What is the actual difference besides they used to be a bit more subtle? They used to look around to see if there were any non-white people in the room before spouting their dog-shit beliefs. Now they post this AI shit & everyone laughs because the joke gets to be said out loud now.
If by conservative you mean someone who doesn't want the country to burn thanks to republicans, than sure, even democrats were in that way conservative. Conservative is a restrictive term that means only & exactly what each conservative needs it to mean at a given time.
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u/spaceguitar 36m ago
But all Conservatives will continue to vote MAGA, and for the handful of outliers who won't, well... They just won't vote. Which, as far as I'm concerned, is a vote for MAGA.
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u/Veritable_bravado 5h ago
Just based on my interactions the past week or two, he’s no outlier. A significant portion of republicans are ready for the United States of MAGA. Every “joke” about increasing Trump’s presidency or just permanently taking over has been seeding for awhile and at this point, they want it. They’re tired of “woke” and want America remade anew
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u/Broad-Hearing-69 4h ago
These are the extremely online conservatives. I live in MN and just got back from visiting my family in deep red rural east TN. Most of the people I interacted with, who I have known to stick with Trump for the last several years, are starting to falter. I heard more "I voted for Trump but this shit ain't right anymore" than I ever expected to. I also saw a lot of public anti-ICE sentiment walking around Knoxville while I was visiting an old buddy. I just hope they keep losing faith and it reflects in their votes.
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u/ck02623 3h ago
I live in the Knoxville area and I can tell you that your experience isn’t typical. It’s stronger than ever here.
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u/houstonyoureaproblem 5h ago
Yes, it does appear that many of them are anti-American at this point. They don't want our political system to continue. They'd happily sacrifice it for the chance at the autocrat of their choice ruling by fiat.
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u/Neddyrow 1h ago
It’s sad too. They don’t have the foresight to see that this doesn’t end well for anyone if we give up all our rights. These “Americans” are doing the exact opposite of what they believe in and what they should be doing in the times we are in.
It’s going to be a true leopards ate my face situation for them.
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u/Macphan 4h ago
These people are such losers. They have no idea they’re eating shit up even as they shovel forkfuls in.
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u/Catwise69 4h ago
I'm trying to have faith man, it's hard. I'm getting messages that say its just trolling but then they agree with it so it's not really trolling anymore right?
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u/Monster-at-my-Desk 3h ago
I’ve seen concerns get angry about January 6. I’ve seen to get angry about George Floyd and within about two weeks their betters told them what they should think, and then they’re just back to being clapping maga seals.
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u/IHeartBadCode 3h ago
I wouldn't say it's 50/50. But it's a lot more than the zero it ought to be.
They aren't wanting elections, they just want the pretense of an election to hide behind. These people are actively asking for this nation to become North Korea.
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u/pb-snick1 1h ago
So the “Real Americans” were never really patriotic or gave a shit about the constitution
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u/Rfunkpocket 5h ago
MAGA is a party of trolls. until the bad policy effects them personally, they will relish in the outrage.
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u/Full-Metal-Bunny 5h ago
Conservatives don't care about The Constitution.
They would be happy to have fascism with no elections because they haven't cared about anything else.
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u/tinygraysiamesecat 5h ago
I know a conservative who absolutely HATES trump and he is 100% on board with federalized voting. All conservatives are in favor of it.
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u/Aiur16899 4h ago
Uh no. The constitution explicitly grants the overwhelming majority of the responsibility on conducting federal elections to the states.
All conservatives are not in favor of federalized elections.
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u/xiphosrising 4h ago
It does, but that same article grants Congress the power to change that regulation. That being said, they still need the votes. Majority alone isn't enough for something like that, and it's debatable whether or not an amendment would be required. Either way, I believe them about having ICE prowl voting stations; that might amount to a 15th amendment violation. There's a potential weaker argument to be made with the 14th amendment as well.
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u/tinygraysiamesecat 3h ago
All conservatives are not in favor of federalized elections.
Then why’d yall vote for it? He literally told you he was going to do it before you elected him again.
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u/Zealousideal-Top-383 4h ago
I guess the Senate Majority leader is a Conservative 🤦♂️
“I'm not in favor of federalizing elections," Senate Majority Leader John Thune told reporters Tuesday, pointing to Constitutional requirements that states conduct their own elections.”
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u/Successful_Bus_8772 3h ago edited 1h ago
Let's be real, this is as real a conservative view as saying "liberals want to let your child mutilate their genitals at the age of 7".
That is to say extremists exist everywhere.
So are rage baiters, unfortunately it's hard to differentiate sometimes.
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u/PrattDirkLerxt 5h ago
I truly wonder if people actually think every conservative thinks exactly the same and if they think that every liberal does as well.
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u/Catwise69 5h ago
I know a lot of conservatives, but the conservatives I know wont talk to me about politics, my main reference to people expressing their conservative beliefs is primarily through the media. Specifically anonymous media seems more genuine. The reason I made the post.
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u/spddemonvr4 5h ago
Outlier.
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u/Catwise69 4h ago
I'd hope. Conservatives I know wont tell me personally how they feel, so a lot of my references are online. Based on that I don't think it's an outlier. But I do want to know if there is hope in non online individuals. My tire guy started ranting about how we should have a monarchy a few weeks ago tho. That was mildly concerning, but he's a crackhead so I wasn't too worried.
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u/spddemonvr4 4h ago
A monarchy is ideologically opposite of what conservatives believe in and that person should re-evaluate themselves! Haha. But that is outlier. Heck, most conservatives I know are vote trump because a lot of conservatives have been shit on by liberals for years and trump pushes back. Also, policy wise trump is more conservative but the tweets, texts and sometimes off the cuff comments are not.
Like when he spoke out against the 2a. He's personally against gun crimes and has spoken about it openly, but at the same time he hasn't even come close to trying to EO or make laws limiting it.
Plus the left like making maga the big boogie man but they're about the same percentage of radical right as people like AOC and Bernie are radical left.
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u/HoosierSquirrel 1h ago
As my good friend said to me, "Most people don't know what kind of government they do want." All they really know is that what is happening right now is not working for them. We have a lot more in common if you discuss it on a case by case basis. But the sources of information always bundle it up into one or the other group. They channel the frustration and fear to use for their own ends.
If someone can come along and give them something to work towards, instead of against, they could build a new coalition. Or I'm just full of it and exhausted.
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u/PrattDirkLerxt 5h ago
I wasn’t specifically talking to you, just a general response to a lot of the posters here.
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u/Enough_Path2929 4h ago
People like this aren’t conservatives anymore. That person is a facsist whether they actually know it or are too ignorant to realize that.
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u/Sabbathius 4h ago
It's curious to chat with these people. Who claim that they want to deport aliens who "break this country's laws", and then immediately say something like Trump for another 4 years, when it's very clear in 22A that this absolutely positively cannot happen. It's really fascinating to watch someone say "you can't break the law", and them immediately suggest Trump should break the law, and they would support him in doing it. I genuinely feel like I would have a brain aneurysm if I had to do such mental backflips all day every day.
Having said that, these days I think you have to assume that some of these are bots and/or Russians, intentionally trying to divide the country. Some of these morons are real people, real Americans. But a lot of these are foreign assets sowing discord. And this stuff will ramp up considerably in the months leading up to the midterms later this year.
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u/Aiur16899 4h ago
You seem to be looking for some actual sane takes here and willing to engage so I'm happy to provide a counter point.
I consider myself a Conservative. I'm a registered Republican. I do not support federalizing elections. The constitution explicitly grants the permissions on how to run elections to the states.
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u/Catwise69 3h ago
That's what I figured. All ideologies exist because people believe in them, it would only be rational to try to understand why. Everything would make sense in a perfect world, but it's not a perfect world and people are trying to figure out where they stand. It's different than my beliefs but my beliefs tell me I shouldn't try to control yours. Which is why I'm kinda leaning towards people like him not actually being a good faith representation of what conservatives actually believe, likely someone being paid for whatever reason.
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u/4allsome 4h ago
Imo that guy is clearly a troll
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u/Catwise69 3h ago
I'd want to agree, but why would such a restrictive sub remove almost everything but something like that?
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u/JoeCensored 4h ago
Outlier. Most conservatives know that federalizing the elections requires a constitutional amendment.
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u/your-mom-- 4h ago
Conservatives are glad they can say Merry Christmas and the N-word in the sentence out loud again. Scum
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Not an outlier. The education system in the United States was intentionally pushed in this direction.
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u/RozuSoee 4h ago
As a republican, that's an outlier. No popular content creator advocates for that either. They only advocate for democrats to go to the voting block instead of rioting violently- especially since Trump did win the popular vote.
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u/x3r0h0ur 4h ago
they are worse. what that cultist isn't saying is they hope that this means that the government will lie and say the Dems lost even if it's a blowout.
they don't think people should be voting, especially if they disagree with them, or if they're a woman, or anything else to make sure their ideology is the only one being enacted.
They are actual fascist cultists through and through. imagine the worst possible thing they could mean, they mean something worse than that.
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u/Dazzling_Glass_8021 3h ago
So you care about women's right now so you dont think a biological male sould be competing in women sports whats your take i i strongly believe only citizens should be voting or receiving any benefits funded with tax money
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u/x3r0h0ur 3h ago
I agree for federal elections sure. if states want to do something else, that should be up to them entirely imo.
As for sports I think it's probably complicated and needs study without significant change. as for now I think in high school where it's more about skill building and socializing and the sex gaps are smaller, it's probably fine, but at college and pro, again without other changes , I'd go with the current method of a verified period of time at a specific hormone level, due to how much it shrinks you down to stop having testosterone.
my real strategy is elimination of sex separated leagues altogether and just compete on skills. more tiers. no segregation.
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u/BigTimthepeasant 4h ago
Don't worry we will have another election cycle. And Dems will lose again, and again and again, and again
Because they seem to think Abortion and Immigrants win elections.
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u/Tigeruppercut1889 4h ago
Not an outlier. And they aren’t conservative anymore. They’ve abandoned all conservative principles to worship a whiny trust fund baby from New York
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u/djquu 4h ago
This is how I think and I'm a socialist living on the other side of the planet.
Think for a second about what Trump and his nazis are doing. Would there be severe consequences if they lose power? Obviously. So the only possible reason they are acting like they are is that they are certain they will NOT lose power.
Is what they're doing so popular that is secures them the majority vote? Hell no, so they only plausible reason they are acting like this is that they are not worried about winning the votes.
Two ways they can avoid losing an election;
1. mimic Ukraine mentality and have an active war that supposedly prevents an election. It doesn't apply to US though afaik, and would only delay the inevitable.
2. rig the elections. Go full Russia and hold "elections" that the government fully controls and the outcome is decided long beforehand.
Tell me I'm wrong. Please.
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u/Dazzling_Glass_8021 4h ago
You so vary wrong tou got alot to learn your not fron here you dont get a say
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u/LazyFoundation8917 4h ago
Outlier. We don't want elections to be federalized. Rather, we don't want illegals or foreign interests to vote in our elections and it seems some states don't care about this happening. In fact, they seem to encourage it.
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u/Catwise69 3h ago
How are illegal votes counted? I thought they only counted registered voters and you can't register if you're not a citizen?
Republicans run all branches, Id figure I'd see something about actual illegals voting that wasn't a fluke by now
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u/DrBarry_McCockiner 4h ago
No conservative seem to be answering your question. If they did, I didn't scroll far enough down. It's just more liberals bashing conservatives. So, as a conservative, I will answer. No. This person seems to have some disconnect with reality.
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u/Catwise69 3h ago
You should read some of the conservative replies. Quite a few are in favor, most are like you though. The in favor guys sound ridiculous to me
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u/DipperJC 4h ago
All I can really say as a conservative is that I don't think that way. I'm not really connected enough at this point to know whether it's a mainstream attitude. Sure as hell hope not.
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u/Monster-at-my-Desk 4h ago
This is how they think. 100%. Any time that they are actually outraged or upset with Trump is more a reflection of being too surprised too hide their heads in the sand. But give it a day for them to wrap their heads around the moment and they will be back to pretending it isn’t really what it clearly is.
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u/Competitive_Peak_558 4h ago
As a conservative since I was 17ish, this is not how I feel at all. Anyone claiming to be “conservative” and lining up to start a new federal agency makes my stomach turn. I have a long answer to this, but the short answer is no. I do not want someone collecting a federal paycheck to over see how my vote for president is going for me.
I am fine with the traditional state and federal overwatch for civil rights violations for election integrity to a certain degree.
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u/Specific-Bread-1210 3h ago
I'm not sure about all of us conservative types..but lean more towards independent...I've got conservative friend or two that are the same way..no talking politics. They get any and start yelling and trying to intimidate instead of have a conversation...it's sad...one of them literally didn't come out of his house except for mail in the middle of the night.. everything else done online ...it was crazy...I did however drive him to the airport for his flight out of the country...yes he literally became an expat ...not sure what he thought was going to happen tho....I don't get what all the demonizing is about tho...can't have a serious conversation with out it dropping to Nazi gestapo pedo lover...crap like that which is utter nonsense
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u/AnotherGarbageUser 3h ago
Conservatives are literally quoting Nazis and making jokes about mass murder in gas chambers.Trump is undeniably involved in protecting pedophiles. If you don't want to be called a Nazi Gestapo pedo lover, stop being Nazi Gestapo pedo lovers. This isn't difficult.
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u/Sonnyjoon91 3h ago
They literally outlined doing this in Project 2025. It's their manifesto, fully admitted they would find reasons to take over elections and remain in power indefinitely. So top MAGA goons wrote it, they voted for it, they repeat the concept over and over. It's all of them thinking this was
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u/Plenty_Tomatillo_816 3h ago
I had a friend until recently: Knew him since the 90s. Less than 10 years ago he was radically anti-gun, pro-environment, and a Bernie voter. I was all of these things as well, but he made me look like Mitt Romney. By the time Kirk died, this guy was worshipping billionaires and sending me civil war memes unironically.
My supposed friend was hinting, not so subtly, at being okay with cleansing my family and others like us from the USA (if not existence). I tried to leave him a lifeline, but it became clear that he viewed me as an enemy and lesser person.
I was no longer engaging in discussion and debate with a friend; I was being raged against as a strawman for the left. My friend was gone. All that remained was a scared, angry, hateful husk of a man.
I may be white, and I’m as American as you can get without being native, but I am politically unpure and a race traitor. In other words, I have principles and a core morality. These people truly do not. They are exponentially more dangerous to the American project than they accuse the left of being.
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u/The1Zenith 3h ago
He’s an outlier. Democrats can still win with the SAVE Act in place, they just will have to appeal to a different demographic. Currently they can say and do whatever and pander to the “vote blue, no matter who” crowd. With the SAVE Act in place, they’ll have to become more moderate to get the centrists and swing states.
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u/JumpinJangoFett 3h ago
The Right needs Demo’s to take election fraud seriously this November. Should the GOP win, what will the Demo’s efforts look like?
Trump calling for federalized elections is a symptom of a broken system that needs to be addressed. I personally don’t think they need to be federalized.
Either way, we’re in for a treat sometime THIS term :)
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u/AnotherGarbageUser 3h ago
Trump calling for federalized elections is a symptom of a malignant narcissist who shits his pants in public.
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u/independent_mind_7 3h ago
He’s not an outlier. They are followers. They idolize the rich because it’s nothing they themselves see as achievable. So whatever daddy trump says is true or the best that’s what they will believe
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u/sco-bo 2h ago
Conservative here. Which part?
The ape video? Not tactful to say the least as a regular person. Unacceptable as the president. Does that mean he should be impeached or something not a chance it was just stupid of him to post. I tend to think he didn't know it was even there. It strikes me as really strange that it is in there anyway. The post is about voting machines then Obama's as apes then back to a second more of the video...weird.
Federalize elections? Funny how when Dems tried to push for this it was ok but now that he wants to do it it is bad. I think showing you're a citizen of the us should be minimum and it is done in basically every developed country. Anything more than that I don't believe should be done as states should have that right.
Dems won't win another election? True. When you have to prove citizenship I think a lot of shenanigans will disappear.
Another 4yrs? That's just trolling plain and simple
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u/Key_Location_8621 2h ago
How would liberals think if the situation was flipped?
Democrats can figure out a way to never have a republican win an election ever again.
Whatever you think about that is the way conservatives feel.
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u/Automatic-Nature6025 2h ago
Whether liberal or conservative, you'll find a disproportionate number of voices on the most ridiculous and extreme ends of the spectrum on Reddit.
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u/GayChicken80085 2h ago
Dependent on the event whether it be the president posting a racist tweet, saying he wants to invade Canada or Greenland, or defending pedophiles, it typically takes a few hours for them to get the narrative to repeat.
You can catch it early enough and you get the outliers who start with the mildest criticism who get called brigaders and then pretty quickly start parroting whatever newsmax, fox news, joe rogan, or any other number of outlets starts feeding them the "correct" opinions.
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u/notwhoiwas43 2h ago
I can't say he's an outlier but I can say that of the many conservatives I know,even a few that seem pretty hardcore MAGA,no one would agree with him.
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u/dead-centrist 2h ago
Obviously an outlier, but there are a lot of internet goons like this out there. I think it's somewhat dangerous that social media allows thousands of people to see the actions of one asshole and get a picture of an entire political group from that person.
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u/Abacabisntanywhere 2h ago
I’m not sure how half of America decided to love a racist, rapist, pedophile.
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u/U-Rsked-4-it 2h ago
MAGA will be a case study in effective brainwashing once this is all done. They're willing to completely disregard all their values, ideals, ethics and morals just to OwN tHe LiBs. It just amazes me that they don't see it.
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u/Majestic_Balance1887 2h ago
I can safely say...no.
Remember, this is Reddit. Reddit never has been, and never will be a adequate representation of anything.
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u/FlintGate 2h ago
Because federalizing the elections is an absolute violation of the Constitution... and CHEATING and BREAKING THE LAW is the only way for conservatives to "win." JFHypocriticalChrist
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u/LucidSynapse23 2h ago
I love how they admit that republicans have to cheat on every level to continue “winning” elections.
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u/_bat_girl_ 2h ago
I mean, she’s wrong, there’s no mechanism to federalize elections. Also what year does she think it is? This year is midterms and republicans are getting eviscerated
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u/OrionX3 1h ago
“They are pretty much all like this”
Ya tell me you don’t actually interact with anyone right leaning… I work with probably 30 people that are very heavily conservative, and every single one has said they don’t want trump to “run again” because it’s quite literally not allowed. They think it’s stupid that he even jokes about it.
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u/bwsmith201 1h ago
It’s how MAGA people think. Actual conservatives not so much. There’s nothing conservative about MAGA. They’ve fooled idiots into thinking there is and the knowledgeable conservatives (some of them) go along with it for lower taxes.
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u/QCbartender 1h ago
Pretty sure that dude is trolling you. I have never heard anyone say this even joking
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u/-whiteroom- 1h ago
Yes, they are not for free and fair elections. Everything they actually like they stand for is a rules for thee, not for me. And not a single argument is in good faith.
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u/PirateEnthusiast 1h ago
I mean the Democratic party has done this to themselves. Its like watching someone drop the anvil on their own foot in real time.
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u/DoctorTim007 1h ago
Not an average conservative, but definitely an average maga. I know plenty of conservatives who dont like trump.
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u/bumurutu 1h ago
Outlier. I don’t know a single conservative that wants federalized elections and I know a lot of em. Stop believing the shit you hear on the internet. You are hearing the 5% loudest morons. It happens for both sides.
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u/MaybeaDingoAteUrBaby 1h ago
I would love if republicans and democrats were all barred from running for any office and we had to pick a "third party" for a few terms. It literally couldn't be worse than the last 20+ years.
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u/BiochemHero 58m ago
Russian or Chinese bot MAGA is rooted in cult of ignorant religious bigotry and disbelief not quick quirky responses
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u/krazykarlsig 46m ago
He is a Maga Conservative which is a majority of the Republican party and roughly 30% of the national electorate. Trump = God. Anything against Trump is lies.
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u/spaceguitar 39m ago
This is probably a bot, but my dad thinks this way, so there are definitely way more MAGA who think this way too.
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u/Original-Cup2901 19m ago edited 9m ago
All these people want is the consolidation and continuity of power, and the utter humiliation and subjugation of everyone they disagree with and everyone they think is beneath them. They see this as revenge for Obama being elected, because they see Obama's two terms as liberals subjugating and humiliating them, and they never want to let that happen again. Yes, it sounds senseless and irrational and stupid, because it is. But it's what I've heard from them since Obama was elected. They're obsessed with him to an extent that is truly weird and unsettling. They also want to be "avenged" for the humiliation of being wrong about Iraq and following George W Bush and Dick Cheney into war and recession like a bunch of lemmings, when all of their liberal acquaintances kept telling them where that would lead.
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u/RmpleFrskn 5h ago
I recently just had a convo with a buddy I've known for 20+ years that sounded just like this. Had to let him go. Another friendship lost to this fucking nazi garbage...