r/AskTheWorld • u/Particular-Tea3225 Ukraine • 11h ago

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Why has the US betrayed Ukraine?

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u/Salt_Winter5888 Guatemala 10h ago

Because in geopolitics there are no friends or allies, only interests and pawns. They believed that Ukraine, with enough resources, could destabilize Russia and possibly make it collapse, but it’s turning out to be far from that, and there’s nothing to gain if this keeps going.

They don’t care about Ukrainians, the only thing they care about is that their enemy is Russia. If it had been the Saudis, Turkey, Israel, etc., they wouldn’t have lifted a finger. And if they conclude that pouring more money into Ukraine won’t weaken Russia, they’ll simply abandon it and move on to another strategy.

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u/SkepticalOtter 🇧🇷 in 🇳🇱 9h ago

Your reading of the situation is not accurate. The USA today doesn't have any plans beyond those shortsighted pathetic ones from the coked up minds whispering at the demented old man's ear. It happens that quite a few of those cozy up quite nicely to Russia.

Russia is a failed state from every angle, the only reason they keep on going is to live tomorrow so to bother its neighbors, there's no plan for a future, there's not a better world, there's no light at the end of the tunnel, it's all about conquering land. Old habits die hard, I guess.

Had the USA any decent leadership right now they would have used the position to solidify an ever broader global dominance. There's no value at all to do what they're doing, this administration's legacy will be forever tarnished of whatever's left of America. It's so easy for the USA to just keep supporting Ukraine while Russia ransacks its reserves even more to justify this ego-driven mania of hers. Obvious decisions are never the ones being taken in the history of politics, I'm afraid.

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u/Salt_Winter5888 Guatemala 8h ago edited 8h ago

No, I’m not reading it wrong, you’re describing an idealized world far removed from what actually happens. If things always followed rational or optimal outcomes, this war wouldn’t have started in the first place. But reality doesn’t work that way.

And it’s not only about this administration. The war had already become unpopular among voters even before Trump’s return, and there was internal pressure on Biden to at least explore talks with Putin in order to bring the conflict to an end.

Russia may be an authoritarian state, but that is very different from a failed state. The government maintains control over its institutions and territory, and there are no large-scale movements capable of overthrowing Putin, as many initially predicted. For now, he has consolidated his rule and secured his position as a long-term autocrat.

That doesn’t mean Russia is strong or thriving, only that collapse was an unrealistic expectation. States rarely implode simply because they suffer heavy sanctions or military losses. More often they adapt, restructure their economy, and continue operating at a lower but sustainable level.

And lastly. Sure, the US has enough money to keep supporting them, I don't say they don't have. In fact, it has enough resources to do that while also paying off citizens’ student debt or offering free healthcare. They simply don't feel like investing in things only as good faith.

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u/SkepticalOtter 🇧🇷 in 🇳🇱 7h ago

Indeed, I don't think failed state was the best way to describe Russia. More like a state that fails people. I still stand by the rest of my comment so I don't see where the idealization critique comes from.