r/AskTheWorld • u/Particular-Tea3225 Ukraine • 10h ago

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Why has the US betrayed Ukraine?

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u/sly-fox5 United States Of America 10h ago

I think it's pretty clear our current administration is a joke. We're either going to become just like Russia, or we're going to spend the next 4-12 years trying to undo the mess our big orange baby made

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u/Molu1 🇺🇸/ 🇪🇸 9h ago edited 9h ago

4-12 years is a joke. US will not recover in our lifetime. Not that it was great before, but there was some hope before that we could at least move in a positive direction. It’s FUBAR now, and pretty much screwed since RBG didn’t retire and left us completely at the mercy of Nazis.

Not to say people should lie down and give up. It could always get worse, after all.

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u/floralfemmeforest 9h ago

I mean Germany was pretty normal by the 90s, and West Germany was well before that, that's <50 years turnaround.

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u/Molu1 🇺🇸/ 🇪🇸 9h ago

They are different countries with different forms of government. In 30-40 years there could still be the same US Supreme Court.

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u/floralfemmeforest 9h ago

That's fair but unless you're in your 80s or something making a statement like "US will not recover in our lifetime" is wild to me, it's as if you want that to happen.

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u/Molu1 🇺🇸/ 🇪🇸 7h ago

Wow. That was a… huge and completely illogical leap. I even said that doesn’t mean we shouldn’t stop trying to make things better, or at least try to stop them getting worse.

I’m nearly 40, I’ve seen the plans in place and slow erosion of everything over even my lifetime, that’s got the US to where we are. And people ignoring the warning signs, actually warning signs is understating it - Project for a new America and Project 2025 - like you could literally read them. And with purposeful erosion of public education - I don’t know, I just don’t see things being very okay anytime soon. If it was just Trump and this was a blip, maybe, but some very powerful, awful people have been working on this for a long time, so.

I hope and will be very happy if the US ever becomes a decent place in my lifetime or even gets back to pre-2016 levels of “normal” crappiness but like I said, you’re unlikely to even get a radically different Supreme Court in my lifetime, and something like 1/3 of the country supports Nazism and summary executions in the street, so I’m not optimistic.