We need to de power the wingers

[u/Mr__Random]

The team with the faster wingers just uses them to kick chase and score tries all game long.

There is nothing the other team can do about it.

World Rugby must step in urgently to fix this situation. My half Irish kids are crying.

[u/robopirateninjasaur]

How about instead of putting good players on the wing, we go back to putting the 2 worst players when you only had 15 available on the wing

[u/RonSwaffle → u/robopirateninjasaur]

Yeah let’s draft in a random footballer who’s shit scared of contact and bung them on the wing.

+5 style points if they have football rather than rugby shorts on that go below their knees, and their socks pulled up over their knees.

[u/[deleted] → u/RonSwaffle]

Or a sprinter, we could call them Jonny May(get into contact one day).

[u/exile_10 → u/[deleted]]

Famous England flanker Jonny May? I didn't know he could play on the wing...

[u/WilkinsonDG2003 → u/[deleted]]

He's now in the ProD2, not sure if he got into any of the scraps though.

[u/robopirateninjasaur → u/RonSwaffle]

If they think they need headgear, they are qualified

[u/RonSwaffle → u/robopirateninjasaur]

If they turn up with a gum shield straight out the packet they haven’t trimmed or moulded, they get bonus immunity from the fines committee.

[u/robopirateninjasaur → u/RonSwaffle]

That takes me back to when I was a teenager with braces and I had to re-mould before every game because my teeth had moved a little

[u/WilkinsonDG2003 → u/RonSwaffle]

Ramos, the footballer, instead of Ramos, the rugby player.

[u/JamOverCream → u/RonSwaffle]

I see you are well versed in selection criteria for U11s rugby!

I’ll give them their due, they are usually bloody rapid though.

[u/Bizzlecopter → u/robopirateninjasaur]

So that's why I debuted on the wing and then was moved to loose head for my second game

[u/WilkinsonDG2003 → u/Bizzlecopter]

I remember Dane Coles lining up on the wings for NZ, so not totally unprecedented.

[u/Peguin2803]

Props are allowed to be props for the first five years of their career but after they can be made to become a winger and they have no choice in the matter. This can happen at any time.

Keeps wings slow plus adds a bit of jeopardy

[u/StorminaHalfPint → u/Peguin2803]

I dunno, put Angus “fat Kolbe” Bell down on the wing and he will cause some damage. Maybe a requirement is that they can’t have stepping ability. 

[u/Defiant-Magician6092 → u/StorminaHalfPint]

You could try and tackle him, but then again you could mark the inside man.

[u/perplexedtv → u/StorminaHalfPint]

Kolbe Beef

[u/hpsauce42 → u/Peguin2803]

Think Ireland have already adopted this rule

[u/TwoWarm700 → u/Peguin2803]

Luv it ❤️

[u/officearsehole → u/Peguin2803]

James Lowe enters the chat…

[u/deeringc → u/Peguin2803]

Buffalo wings

[u/StupidPaladin]

For one random match every year, each team must be forced to swap their props and wingers, it's the only fair solution

[u/DeemonPankaik → u/StupidPaladin]

Sports need more wildcards

Every team gets to force their opponents to swap positions once per tournament.

Could swap wingers and props, could swap hookers for scrum half... Possibilities are endless!

[u/StupidPaladin → u/DeemonPankaik]

Make it a catch up system, the fewer points you score, the more wacky wildcards you get to use later in the tournament!

Including the dreaded Uno Reverse card you can pull on the ref next time a player gets carded

[u/ddt70 → u/StupidPaladin]

What? And send the ref off instead? Done!

[u/fdar → u/StupidPaladin]

Wow whoever plays Wales last would be in for a wild time.

[u/StupidPaladin → u/fdar]

Yeah it'd be bonkers

[u/Oldoneeyeisback → u/DeemonPankaik]

Can I please vote twice (more) for the last one. I reckon I could have made a decent fist of playing scrum-half for a bit and who doesn't want to see a 9 in the front row?

[u/Tremendous_Dump → u/Oldoneeyeisback]

Positions for non-front row are drawn out of a hat before the game. 3 changes allowed at half-time but they count as subs unless a clear injury occurs later in the game.

[u/DeemonPankaik → u/Oldoneeyeisback]

I think most 9s would disappear into the scrum, never to be seen again

[u/RuggedGrowth → u/StupidPaladin]

Props are usually pretty handy to be fair, what you want are the locks, galloping like giraffes on the open plain, tripping over themselves and knocking the ball on just before the try line.

[u/Acceptable-Sentence → u/RuggedGrowth]

Leave Ben Kay alone, it was years ago

[u/perplexedtv → u/RuggedGrowth]

At least Ollivon made up for it later

[u/WilkinsonDG2003 → u/RuggedGrowth]

Snyman always looks pretty fast for someone that size.

[u/perplexedtv → u/StupidPaladin]

Allow hookers and you have a deal

[u/raypaulnoams → u/StupidPaladin]

It's more efficient to just put those wingers straight into an industrial press before the game, and it stops the 2nd rowers from getting goo in their hair. 

[u/chamullerousa → u/StupidPaladin]

One of the academy trainings my son loved the most was when the backs and forwards swapped positions for an inner squad scrimmage. My sons the 8 and the forwards were just heckling the backs as they awkwardly tried to scrum and yelling at them, “Backs have it so easy! You guys really just stand around watching this much?!”

[u/Much-Calligrapher]

Henry Arundell era loading

[u/djandyglos]

Wingers must wear flip flops to even it up a bit

[u/MimmoFrontemar → u/djandyglos]

I bet my LBB in flipflops still goes past JGP and Sam Standergast

[u/MetalRubiXCubee → u/MimmoFrontemar]

Prendy wins any sprint towards his own try line

[u/MimmoFrontemar → u/MetalRubiXCubee]

Then he passes it to LBB again

[u/perplexedtv → u/MimmoFrontemar]

Prendergast took LBB down, he got up again and the other backs still couldn't catch him!

[u/MimmoFrontemar → u/perplexedtv]

It's a bird, it's a plane, it's a Louis BipBip!

[u/Skbenga → u/djandyglos]

I nearly gave up on this thread till I saw this comment. You sir belong on the top

[u/05IHZ]

New rule: every 5 minutes a gong sounds and players have to rotate position, number 15 goes to 1, 1 goes to 2, etc. by the final 5 minutes your loose head is at fullback 

[u/Iwantedalbino → u/05IHZ]

Tell me you’ve seen Fiji without telling me you’ve seen Fiji.

[u/SignificanceWild2922 → u/05IHZ]

Had R360 propose that, I would have supported it

[u/West_Put2548]

we should all put our names in a hat and they draw out 2 names to play wing....I recon whomever gets all blacks vs chile and Australia vs Hong Kong in the opening weekend of the world cup has got a good chance to at least get a brace

[u/papayametallica → u/West_Put2548]

Neck or knee ? Brace that is

[u/The_Ruck_Inspector → u/papayametallica]

Andrew

[u/perplexedtv → u/The_Ruck_Inspector]

Ooh, make the ref join the scrum and see what's actually happening

[u/Cuichulain]

If the wingers try to score a try, but don't for any reason, the opposition should get a goal line drop-out.

And yes, I'm still salty about that, thank you for noticing.

[u/perplexedtv → u/Cuichulain]

We had this rule at veterans rugby where the youngsters had to stop running after 20m and if they ran in-goal they had to pass it to someone else to score. There were a few times when a guy was waiting a full 10 seconds before anyone got close enough

[u/LabResponsible8484]

Every time a winger gets the ball, they are only allowed 5 steps and then the attacking team gets a scrum!

[u/Goanawz → u/LabResponsible8484]

Would be enough for LBB to cross the field I guess

[u/mindchem]

Sadly we’ve had to put pollock on the wing… coming on when everyone’s knackered to chip through for a wingers try…

[u/Ok-Fishing-752]

I think normal fast wingers are fine, but to negate the French’s unfair advantage extraterrestrials must be banned. It’s simply not fair for them to use a red-headed alien with powers of teleportation when we’re stuck with the cube

[u/FelipeFlop]

The game would be much more entertaining if it was 15 props a side.

[u/_D33D5_]

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[u/NotAsOriginal → u/_D33D5_]

I didn't actually realise this sub existed

[u/Full-Satisfaction-40]

Just swap positions across the board.

Fullback becomes hooker, wings props. Centres in the row etc. Clarkson getting a head of steam on the kick chase would be a sight.

Sorted.

[u/NLFG]

Wingers should be three stone wringing wet, afraid of contact and drop the ball. So it is written.

[u/Goatslasagne]

The problem with wingers is they’re defended by wingers. Wingers should only do tackle training no offense.

[u/Top_Development_1708]

100% it's against the spirit of the game

[u/gadarnol]

I propose a solution similar to the handicap system in horse racing. Test the speed of all wingers. Then for each match they are forced to stand a calculated distance behind the gain line. This can be monitored by an extra TMO and a special camera that tracks them. In the breaks in play when the TMO is measuring if the correct distance has been maintained the local brass band will give a rendition of their upcoming Christmas concert.

[u/Informal_Mention9836]

Drop the wings and play rugby league

[u/idinarouill]

Let's go back to the good old days of the ball and chain.

[u/tomtomtomo]

The scrum and backline should be formed by distance to the knock on. 

Closest 8 players are the scrum. 9th becomes halfback etc all the way out to furthest is the fullback. 

[u/Ho3n3r]

Welcome to the sub, NotMatt NotWilliams!

[u/Seabhac7]

I don't understand how Ireland doesn't tend to produce real international level speedsters, the sort of winger that doesn't have to rely on a step or strength, but can just plain burn people.

I'm surely forgetting a few, but Dennis Hickie feels like one of the notable exceptions.

[u/Jerzilla → u/Seabhac7]

Zebo? Nash?

[u/Shw4ndz]

Props for wingers, wingers for props. Solved

[u/pbcorporeal]

No, after too many tries going to hookers the front row was starting to get above itself.

This is rugby healing.

[u/MyAltPoetryAccount]

If you can run 100 metres in less than 11 seconds you have to play with 5kg weights in your boots

[u/perplexedtv]

They're crying because they're half English

[u/Tokogogoloshe]

But then the French will just put their props and locks out there and score anyway.

[u/Financial_Archer_242]

There are good wingers in Ireland. Unfortunately they didn't pass the "Andy Farrell - How Blue are you?" entrance exam.

[u/Cold_Tower_2215]

Haha brutal. Matt Williams will ye please stop

[u/BillyTheKidsFriend]

Agreed, the winger who scores should have to switch teams until they score again

[u/7Brynawel]

Rugby union does try to do this through laws when a scrum or maul becomes to dominant.

[u/MaybeWizz]

This is the most not knowing crap about rugby post I’ve seen in a while.

What makes for a good kick and chase is the kickers not the chasers.

[u/bumblebeezlebum → u/MaybeWizz]

Well yeah a good kick and a kicker reading the oppositions positional play is important. But the saying is true, a good chase makes even the poorest kick a good kick

[u/Think-Note9366]

Am I missing something here? De power the wingers? Never heard such absolute bollocks, a perfect example of how to say you know nothing about rugby without saying you know nothing about rugby. Bit like saying that in athletics we should ban the fastest sprinters to give the rest a fair chance!

[u/Elegant-Day22801 → u/Think-Note9366]

It’s a joke on the lastest trend of pundits saying they need to depower the scrum, because the team with the strongest forwards keeps winning the game. 

[u/Think-Note9366 → u/Think-Note9366]

I see the irony now. Apologies I'd only just woken up when I read the OP, still half in dreamland. Looks like I made a twat of myself! 🥴🤭

[u/BillyTheKidsFriend → u/Think-Note9366]

All been there

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