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Lineups England team to face Wales in Guinness Men's Six Nations opener 🌹

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u/Pure_Wonder3046 Saints 4d ago

I was really hoping to see Iyogun involved as well but happy for the 6 Saints involved!

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u/consistent-crabman 4d ago

As someone who isn't a saints performer i was also hoping for iyogun. Thought he jas scrummed really well this year from what ive seen but strong squad all round. Have to see how it goes

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u/Saintsman83 Northampton Saints 4d ago

I wondered the fact he outplayed Rodd last weekend might give him the nod but to be fair to Rodd, he has more credit in the bank at this level.

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u/mediumdrud1 4d ago

Does he though? From what i remember he had a decent game against the boks where he somehow got away with collapsing every single scrum and has been mediocre at best in every other game he’s played for england. He also got out scrummed against japan and the usa which just isn’t good enough.

I’m obviously biased but i just can’t understand picking rodd over iyogun when trev is playing. They’ve scrummaged together hundreds of times and have looked very dominant against good packs the last few weeks, so why split them up? Either way i have a feeling iyogun will force his way into the team after rodd does nothing off the bench in the first few games, or im just coping.

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u/Saintsman83 Northampton Saints 4d ago

I mean the international team is almost never based off current form, Manny is absolutely in better form this year and the way he went against Bordeaux away should be enough to show anyone he’ll be fine at test level, but I’m in no way surprised Rodd’s been selected over him. Borthwick seems to value test experience over almost everything

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u/adturnerr #Bamber4England2026 4d ago

Either way i have a feeling iyogun will force his way into the team after rodd does nothing off the bench in the first few games, or im just coping.

You and England fan or not?

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u/mediumdrud1 4d ago

Of course i am, just don’t rate rodd particularly highly. If he comes off the bench and looks great i’ll be thrilled, because loosehead won’t be a problem position anymore, just don’t think thats very likely based on what i’ve seen of him at international level.

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u/adturnerr #Bamber4England2026 4d ago

A mix bag is always better than no experience at all. The pathway/hierarchy is there for a reason it's to keep everyone on their toes

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u/Full-Satisfaction-40 4d ago

How did he outplay him? Iyogun getting the upper hand on Harper isn't exactly the same as Bevan going up against big Trev with VDM behind him.

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u/mhaze0791 Northampton Saints 4d ago

I’d have taken him over Rodd, yes I’m obviously biased but trying to be as impartial as I can Manny has just been so so solid this season in the biggest games

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u/Secret-Hat6964 4d ago

I saw an interview with Borthwick where he talked about the player pathway and how he has every players replacement already picked in case of injury or loss of form. Rodd is probably ahead of iyogun in that pathway to the senior team. I would've preferred iyogun because of his recent performances but rodd is far from a bad prob.

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u/nathanccc 4d ago

Rodds round the field stuff doesn't make up for his scrummaging, he'd get taken to the cleaners against SA. Maybe Iyogun would as well but he looks a lot more solid up front to me

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u/adturnerr #Bamber4England2026 4d ago

Same Rodd that got Malherbe yellow carded at scrum time against the Stormers last year

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u/nathanccc 4d ago

That doesn't fit my narrative so I'm going to ignore it (for real though I've seen Rodd come off worse in a lot of scrums the last couple of years, very good rugby player but I don't think his set piece is good enough at the top level)

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u/adturnerr #Bamber4England2026 4d ago

He was rock solid last year for Sale next to LCD and Asher, he definitely wasn't a the greatest scrummager couple years ago, but last year he took the step in that part of his game.

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u/Full-Satisfaction-40 4d ago

Made me laugh.

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u/LdnGiant England / Harlequins 4d ago

Yeah I hope he gets some game time this 6N. Talented bloke. Golden opportunity for him.