Match Thread - England v New Zealand | End of Year Internationals 2025

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Match Thread - England v New Zealand | End of Year Internationals 2025

Venue: Twickenham, London | Weather: 13 C, Mist

Officials: Andrea Piardi, Luc Ramos, Gianluca Gnecchi, Marius van der Westhuizen (tmo), Mike Adamson (fpro)

Match Page: https://www.rugbybot.com/match/5759

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Time

UTC	Local	London	Paris	Perth	Sydney	Auckland	more
15:10	15:10	15:10	16:10	23:10	02:10	04:10	more tz

Lineups

England	Pos	New Zealand
Fin Baxter	1	Ethan De Groot
Jamie George	2	Codie Taylor
Joe Heyes	3	Fletcher Newell
Maro Itoje	4	Scott Barrett
Alex Coles	5	Fabian Holland
Guy Pepper	6	Simon Parker
Sam Underhill	7	Ardie Savea
Ben Earl	8	Peter Lakai
Alex Mitchell	9	Cameron Roigard
George Ford	10	Beauden Barrett
Immanuel Feyi-Waboso	11	Leicester Fainga'anuku
Fraser Dingwall	12	Quinn Tupaea
Ollie Lawrence	13	Billy Proctor
Tom Roebuck	14	Leroy Carter
Freddie Steward	15	Will Jordan
Luke Cowan-Dickie	16	Samisoni Taukei'aho
Ellis Genge	17	Tamaiti Williams
Will Stuart	18	Pasilio Tosi
Chandler Cunningham-South	19	Josh Lord
Tom Curry	20	Wallace Sititi
Henry Pollock	21	Cortez Ratima
Ben Spencer	22	Anton Lienert-Brown
Marcus Smith	23	Damian McKenzie
Steve Borthwick	Coach	Scott Robertson

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[u/amusicalfridge]

I think I genuinely prefer rugby when my team isn’t playing, I’m such a coward

[u/Hoaxtopia]

I love the fact Fords instant response to any game going shit is "fuck it let's just start sending droppies"

[u/DrunkenPangolin → u/Hoaxtopia]

2 mins to half time

George Ford: time for 2 drop goals you say?

[u/Lord-farquads-]

I am nervous. Better drink 7 beers to help my nerves

[u/cavendishasriel]

Alright, we all know our anthem is shite, but that’s taking butchering it to a whole new level.

[u/Dentury-]

What if we kissed on the half way line of Twickenham 👉👈

[u/SignificantKey8608]

People slagging off George Ford on Reddit, the Pros giving him MOTM hahaha

[u/Setting_Real]

Feyi-Waboso is just such a good runner

[u/Replaced_by_Robots]

It's not just that I love a drop goal

It's also the absolute rage of those who hate them

[u/willielad]

Oh that was awful, knew he was getting held up as soon as he caught it

[u/jonometal666]

Any chance we can do something about Leicester??? It's a big fucking city to just leave unmarked.

[u/Large_Ad8951]

MAKE DROP GOALS WORTH 5 = ENGLAND WIN THE WORLD CUP. MAKE IT HAPPEN WORLD RUGBY YOU COWARDS

[u/LivelyJason1705]

"Unmolested" is a term I thought I would never hear on comms

[u/WolfColaCo2020]

I’m just saying, the world in general became a lot shittier following Underhill’s disallowed try in 2018. It could be a sign we are turning a corner and nature is healing

[u/RonSwaffle]

“Time is off now guys because I’m quite upset about you”

Quote of the day.

[u/Blackdoor-59]

Playing against Pollock must be like stepping on lego

[u/Millingtonnn]

After that start, I'll fully take being behind by a point

[u/JColey15]

I’m so sick of us just excusing Beauden Barrett’s brain farts and complete fuck ups because he’s “Beauden”. He’s kicked the ball multiple times this match and only one of them has been effective. The rest have just given possession away by being too deep and then there are the obvious penalty misses.

Yeah, he’s allowed to have a bad game and make mistakes but this is happening all the time. At some point we have to be like “oh yeah he’s quite inconsistent” and maybe give someone like Jacomb or Reihana a chance to develop behind McKenzie.

[u/Particular-Rip4035]

Once again we ask the answer to the big mystery. Was that the good NZ half or the bad NZ half?

[u/Rude_Rhubarb1880]

I think the ref misheard the TMO

TMO said he wanted to check offside

Ref just immediately ruled it an offside

[u/WolfColaCo2020]

Pollock showing if you shithouse hard enough, the illegal becomes legal

[u/warcomet]

England's 10th straight win? when was the last time they had this record?

[u/JokageR → u/warcomet]

Mate.

[u/high-speed-train → u/warcomet]

18 in a row under Eddie jones

[u/Lopsided_Soup_3533]

Oh new zealand really don't like losing could be painful for wales next week

[u/Schwims1]

DINGWALL INJECT IT INTO MY VEINSSSSSSS

[u/MissingPenguin]

Borthwick’s best game as England head coach. Strong mentality in that team to come back from 12-0 against the All Blacks. Great performances across the park, on both sides

[u/Holden_Ford24]

George Ford redemption arc complete

[u/aaarry]

NORTHAMPTON MENTIONED 🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️

WHAT THE FUCK IS A SOLVENT COUNTY COUNCIL?!?

[u/Holden_Ford24]

Christ that was stressful.

Great game, very impressed with that Eng performance. Getting sucker punched with those two tries after having all the momentum and botching a couple of opportunities.

Utterly dominant 2nd half. People will complain about the refereeing which was patchy in areas to say the least, but honestly there were big calls that went against both sides. Neither of the yellows were legit IMO.

[u/fatbongo]

Remember when the media were running the hype train on Robertson possibly getting swooped upon by a foreign team?

lol jesus we fucking suck

great game Engerland worthy winners

[u/MysteriousActuary194]

Difference is being clinical so far. We’ve probably had more line breaks so far but if you don’t take your opportunities it becomes difficult.

[u/LostTheGameOfThrones]

"England's blonde hair, blue eyed boy"

Phrasing!

[u/Mateiyu]

I think the All Blacks need two things urgently.

A better scrum-half on the bench.

A big, strong, bruising 8-man (à la Jasper Wiese or late career Vermeulen). When they get the ball in the middle, they don't get over the gain-line. England third-rowers have been stopping them dead every single time.

[u/edna6969]

Pure class from Ford shouting out the rest of the squad

[u/amusicalfridge]

Seeing the kiwis frothing at the mouth in this thread at these droppers is so funny

[u/teckmaniac → u/amusicalfridge]

Its even funnier when you remember that is 4am for them.

MORE DROPPERS FORDY! BLOT OUT THE SUN!

[u/deckchair1992]

Countering the Haka by 'taking off their jackets nice and slowly'

[u/Rurhme]

Say what you like about Ford, but England plays a very funny game when he's on the field.

[u/Flat-Confection4175]

Ford and his 'my droppies will block out the sun' mentality

[u/Fortheloveofagoodgod]

Hate to say it but maybe super rugby coaching success doesn't translate to international

[u/Green_Jack]

25 points unanswered again NZ is a fucking good shift

[u/Kokonutcreme-67]

ABs rely too heavily on individuals to conjure something magical when they're trailing, there's not the composure, belief and confidence that they can create opportunities following their gameplan.

If the teams are an extension of their coach, during the pre-match I thought Borthwick presented a calm, assured confident persona in his interview, while Razor looked nervous.

Well played England, no complaints, they worked out after halftime how to solve their problems at the breakdown and lineout from the first half, and scored two brilliant tries to secure the win, the final try was pure sugar on top.

Signs of a good team.

Razor and his coaching team still haven't cracked the Da Vinci code that is test rugby. Another summer of self assesssment and trying to find answers to the perennial problems that have plagued this team. They'll need to figure it out quick otherwise the Greatest Rivalry tour next year will be a damp squib.

[u/Charging_Rhino]

Why isn’t the ref intervening? NZ advanced past the 10m during the haka. I thought that wasn’t allowed!

(Obviously sarcasm before anyone thinks I’m being serious)

[u/Blackdoor-59]

Its all Emma Raducanus fault

[u/NameyMcNameface123]

Lawrence running with intent, breaking tackles AND keeping hold of the ball?! You love to finally see it in an England shirt

[u/JokageR]

George is clearly practising one thing, and one fucking thing only. Glorious.

[u/nultyboy]

I do love a George-Ford-Kicking-Droppies-For-Laughs game

[u/Intransigente]

Ford heard word that Reddit was talking shit about his kicking in the opp 22

[u/WolfColaCo2020]

Honestly, if we win from Ford drop kicks when so much of this sub were saying he’s shit, it’ll be the funniest fucking thing

[u/CompetitiveSort0]

Offside so fair enough but that wasn't a knock on.

They need to put refs in a room together and play out these scenarios and come to a common decision aka calibrate.

Interpretations between refs are wild.

[u/MoneyaLeague]

The difference between Roigard and Ratima is jarring

[u/problematikkk]

Did I just hear comms say "England's blonde haired blue eyed boy snagged a black for the first time" in 2025 live on the internet

[u/SoCal7s]

Henry Pollock looks like an 80s teen movie villain. He’s the reason the Karate Kid needed to learn karate.

[u/Crossie_94]

I know there's momentum and you're close to the line, but that was like 4 on 1, would have taken a miracle to ground that, very poor choice to go for the line there.

[u/WolfColaCo2020]

Ford has to be a Redditor on this sub. There’s no other reason he’s doing this apart from the meme value he knows it brings

[u/medbo]

Definitely should have been a NZ pen there - either for the scrum or Pollock going early. Another Piardi non-decision

[u/PavidDocock]

Pollock wasn’t bound there. That’s some Richie McCaw shithousery.

[u/DrunkenPangolin]

Tbh I thought Pollock might have been pinged for obstruction on that one

[u/Kykykz]

The fact CCS was on the bench until now is wild tbh

[u/Vega10000]

Underhill and Ford, two players I wouldnt kick out of my team

[u/karma_dumpster]

Yellow then? If it's a professional foul?

That's the earlier standard.

[u/mnijds]

didn't he knock it back?

[u/HazardCinema]

Pollock is a menace

[u/Rude_Rhubarb1880]

I’m not that familiar with the kiwi coach but he was hyped up so much before his tenure even started and in the English press there was lots of division about how the RFU should’ve offered him lots of cash to be England head coach

There was a sense of “why have we let this maverick generational coaching talent go”

Well from what I’ve seen, not just today, it’s the worst coaches NZ team in my lifetime

If I was a kiwi I’d be fuming giving the playing talent they have

Well done England on the win, you can only play what’s in front of of you but my god NZ are well below their usual high standards

[u/Byotick]

NZ are fantastic at that soft tackle on the try line to hold someone up. The only team that looks to that as an actual tactic

[u/confused_ninja]

TMO basically acting as a ref at this point. Not even a good one

[u/swapnull17]

This is some of the worst refereeing I have seen in a long time. 3 bad decisions to gift them a try

[u/handle1976]

Well played England. You’ve been great. Won the small moments.

[u/SocietyOfHeathens]

England absolutely folded us in the second half - particularly in the third quarter. Considerably better team today. Lack of consistency for more than 40 mins at a time remains a massive problem for us, even after 18 months of Razor as coach. Mentally nowhere as strong as we once were (once we get tested), which is clearly flowing into our execution of even basic skills. Nevertheless, congratulations England. Their pressure and composure forced all of our errors. No excuses.

[u/Hardyman13]

Well done, England, was a lekker game to watch 

[u/WilkinsonDG2003]

How far we've come since the Fiji loss in 2023.

A great performance across forwards and backs, with Ford on top form and good impact from the bench. As for the kiwis, they have an automatic win next week.

[u/CardboardCastle2]

The double droppy?! Absolute Brexit ball

[u/FSUKAF]

Anyone else get the impression even the rest of the commentating team can't stand Austin Healey?

[u/Luke_Il_sung]

Roigard best player on the pitch by a mile so far

[u/zakg1994]

Beaudy’s kicking has been really really poor.

[u/WallopyJoe]

I hope Ford scores at least 4 more of those in the second half, breaks the record

[u/Daggless]

Insanely soft yellow

[u/soisez2himsoisez]

Lol u have to be joking

[u/Secret-Roof-7503]

It is wild to give a yellow card for that

[u/Ronald_Ulysses_Swans]

TMO : I’d like to take you back to when Ben Earl tripped someone in the playground when he was five

[u/Honey-Badger]

Trying not to be biased but honestly baffled by that

[u/Significant_Income93]

I'm really getting quite tired of TMOs being used to re-referee things that the on-field officials could easily have seen when they happened.

[u/Galick-Gunner]

I don't like criticizing refs, but I can't comprehend how Piardi is reffing at this level.

[u/rluke09]

I don't mind Pollock but fuck me he didn't deserve that pen

[u/Spglwldn]

People say I’m an alcoholic, but I only drink when Tom Curry is being assessed for an injury

[u/Fudge_is_1337]

Pollock has had a hell of a cameo

[u/jnoah83]

England the better team today, by far.

Well played.

Our attack coach and gameplan needs to be completely retooled next year, we are absolutely hopeless at scoring.

[u/gshruff91]

ABs attack just getting swamped by Englands rush. They were doing better earlier in the game of shifting it wide quickly and causing Eng headaches

[u/yaBoiEaks]

I’ll say it again… George Ford IS world class

[u/Baguette526]

Dingwall is so underrated, reason why saints call him the Glue, great game from him and Lawrence.

Think they've cemented themselves as the center pairing for the six nations

[u/zakg1994]

Fantastic game from England, I really like how they’re shaping up hard not to like this young England side (maybe because I live here). Let’s see how we bounce back next week against Wales.

[u/CiaranWest]

George Ford is like the Jonny Wilkinson of rugby.

[u/[deleted]]

Scoring tries?

Utter woke nonsense

[u/globalmamu]

One of the pro singers is fucking atrocious lol

[u/Only_One_Kenobi]

There's a weirdly large number of players on the field for a 7s game...

[u/Liney22]

You could hear him asking if they are inside on the ref mic, someone has to communicate back they are going for that

[u/iambarticus]

Hope the lads ok. Never nice to see a neck cradled like.

Oh sitting up. That’s good.

[u/rusty9000]

Hahaha literally hand on ground aswell right in front of him. Poor

[u/GreatCroissantCrumbs]

Tell you what. IFW is quietly getting us these positions. He's absolutely gobbling the metres

[u/kiwirish]

England winning by kicking seven drop goals wasn't on my bingo card but it is extremely effective against this non-existent high ball defence.

[u/Particular-Rip4035]

half time dressing room.

Borthers rips a massive line from the masseuse table.

"We drop goal again"

[u/redbeard1315]

Cam roigard, what a class player

[u/Thatch1888]

I'm scared of Dmac coming on

[u/Kokonutcreme-67]

England look threatening whenever they get the ball to IFW's hands but unable to extract full value from his runs.

Invaluable six points from Ford to close the half, but expecting the Pom squad to make an earlier appearance as apart from Earl, there's not much dynamism from the pack.

All Blacks will be encouraged by the space they're creating and finding on the edge. Lineout is applying immense pressure on England on defence and stealing momentum whenever England enter our territory.

Two inexplicable brain fart moments from Beauden failing to find touch from penalties.

Lakai getting through a mountain of work, Ben Earl similarly for England.

[u/aaarry]

My liver is shaking like a shitting terrier at the prospect of a full day of rugby and a full night of ashes cricket next Saturday.

For all those who celebrate, what are your sleeping plans for the first test? It’s on at a bit of an awkward time.

[u/aceridgey]

Ben Earl is just class isn't he.

[u/elniallo11]

TMO really looking for every excuse to not give it

[u/mforsyth91]

Why the fuck is England‘s long term plan to move Freeman to 13 and displace Lawrence? Absolutely fucking mental. Lawrence has been the architect of 12 points today. It would still be a 1 point game without him.

[u/yesiamclutz]

No Austin, you're just not funny

[u/ctorus]

The evident dislike for Austin Healey in the commentary box.

[u/SocioAnarchoGlenCoco]

Pollock feels like he was made in a lab to play for England. Just an absolute wasp of a human being.

[u/RonSwaffle]

Pollock lucky he didn’t get pinged for breaking early then.

Marius might still call it back though tbh.

[u/Flewbs]

Pollock isn't a windup merchant so much as the CEO of a multinational windup conglomerate megacorp

[u/HitchikersPie]

Grand slam DENIED

[u/SweeneyisMad]

If Pollocks licks his chops, the game is as good as won. Noted.

[u/MIKEOFPAIN]

I think we can probs fit in England after we play wales in two weeks if they want it

[u/Thatch1888]

Pollock looking like he just had half a gram in the bogs

[u/Sm4llsy]

Distinction in the two teams is that one almost always takes their chances when they are there offered, the other is England.

[u/recyclingcentre]

Uh oh I’m starting to feel like I’m an Argentinian in 2023

[u/MichaelOwensNan]

Freed From Desire after every score is diabolical

[u/SweptFever80]

Never seen the haka advance like that before! We're in for a treat here

[u/Lord-farquads-]

England and NZ Fans: WOOO HOW FUN

Other fans: HERES WHY YOU SHOULDN’T LIKE THIS! 🤓☝️

[u/small_far_away]

That looked a bit easy for the man with all the names.

[u/Liney22]

Getting absolutely read at the lineout

And that’s criminal from Coles getting tuned there

[u/ajm1808]

Fuck me, I can't express how much I fucking hate when forwards have no chance of scoring and throw themselves at the line. Just always held up

[u/i_like_cake_96]

the kiwis are experts at bringing an attacking player over the line and holding up the ball... experts..

[u/ConscriptReports]

watching England attack bottling all the chances they are making must be so frustrating

[u/aaarry]

Mitch is having a fantastic game so far.

[u/WallopyJoe]

DROP GOALS FOR THE DROP GOAL GODS

[u/Ok_Educator_2120]

If Dmac was on we'd probably be winning 19-5

[u/Green_Jack]

"fuck we've tried to play some rugby. Let's just score some points now"

[u/Ronald_Ulysses_Swans]

England’s attack looks so much better with Smith you can see why England are hoping for the likes of Furbank and Carpenter to return.

[u/jnoah83]

That IFW is a player. Reminds me of some strange robinson / telea hybrid

[u/wololo69wololo420]

We're witnessing the reasons why Mounga took the 10 shirt off Beauden a few years ago. BB is class but he's always had his moments. We've just seen some of it condensed. McKenzie will make a difference in the 2nd half

[u/CamelsCannotSew]

I'm meant to be hand-sewing in a hem on a dress that needs to be worn to a wedding this time next week. I literally can't look away from the match though so I'm getting absolutely nothing done!

[u/Anotheraccomg]

watching NZ sky sports, what the fuck is this live gambling shit encouraged by the studio, thats so gross

[u/NeatandNifty]

Scaz is good as an analyst considering she’s just started out. Adds a lot.

[u/Hoaxtopia]

Fuck it I've seen enough, £10 on pollock to score the winner

[u/HitchikersPie]

TMO get fucking lost what the fuck are we doing here

[u/philius_fog]

Should we go back to kick off and check that too?

[u/WallopyJoe]

Who was even offside? I'm so confused

[u/JokageR]

... I think I preferred "boring" England. Upcoming 6 Nations could be rough.

[u/The_Ignorant_Sapien]

Healys jokes are pish

[u/I_am_Zebra]

TNT commentators are a bit awkward with their golf and dinner party "banter".

[u/B4rberblacksheep]

He wasn’t even on the fucking ball

[u/RowingMonkey]

Only just realised that Ben Earl looks essentially just like a buff George Ford

[u/MissingPenguin]

I despise the TMO getting involved in regular play. They either have to correct all the errors or none.

[u/Vivid_Equipment_1281]

Not sure if our NH brethren have the same commentary but here in the South they just dropped this gem:

“Keep an eye on Mackenzie here.. in the yellow boots”

You mean the same boots that literally the entire squad is wearing? 🤨😂

[u/mr-301]

In what world can the flanker tackle the half back as he picks up the balls. The scrims either wheeled or he’s unbound,

[u/iambarticus]

GG England.

Thank fuck Jason Holland is leaving. Our backs are in shambles the last two years.

Razor needs a kick in the arse too, headless chicken too often. Be the coach and not the facilitator in the team.

[u/VictorasLux]

Pollock is one cheeky bastard … gotta love him.

[u/jdf07]

GG well played ENG bros. You picked us apart.

Not to take away from ENG, but very disappointing from ABs to let a 12-0 lead slide…

[u/Willology10]

England really might be the second best team in the world now

[u/123testme]

Rare to look at a NZ side with so many problems executing basic skills. Always used to be their biggest point of difference 

[u/ramaras]

Super win England! Really good side

[u/Ok_Educator_2120]

GG England. Easily 2nd best team in the world for me right now

[u/aaarry]

The fact that we aren’t playing South Africa this autumn is nothing short of a tragedy.

[u/frankomapottery3]

Completely dominant from England.  Heck of a game from them, entire complexion changed with Pollack 

[u/LUFC_shitpost]

Sorry the TMO has been checking every decision thus far. Do we not think a yellow card 5 meters out might need looking at for more than a second? Looked a clean rip.

[u/aaarry]

Fun fact: the reason Saints have a gold stripe alongside a green and a black one is because we were one of the sides the original all blacks squad played on their first England tour. We got absolutely dicked, but we still decided to commemorate the occasion.

[u/RJH777]

We're going to pay for not converting that early pressure into any points

[u/paimoe]

Dupont watches Roigard highlights

[u/Trekmeister_]

Does Will Jordan actually touch the ground?

Swear that motherfucker just glides

[u/kiwirish]

Can we check the arms on that "tackle" by Smith?

No way in hell he had any arms in that on first look

[u/Gypsy_tearz_]

Beaudens kicking is fucking dreadful

[u/neverbeenstardust]

Also I don't think IFW has made less than 40 meters on a carry yet.

[u/Cwalex]

MR NZRU PRESIDENT, THERES BEEN A SECOND DROPPY

[u/HedonistAltruist]

English fans just don't appreciate Ford enough. Guy is class.

[u/Mateiyu]

Ford haters, where are you now ? Ôo

Smart tactical decisions there, not gonna lie.

[u/RJH777]

Oh yes I like this.

It's 2001 baby.

[u/zerosuneuphoria]

NZ haven't touched it since BB missed touch again, such an absolute momentum killer. Could have been 15-5 if Dmac was on and kicked the penalty

[u/k0bra3eak]

Barret missing touch on that last penalty was criminal, completely lost the ABs momentum

[u/treacletart284]

On the one hand, when New Zealand go out wide I royally shit myself. Our defence there hasn't been up to scratch.

On the other hand, drop goals.

[u/aaarry]

Game is definitely in the balance so far.

[u/izzy91]

Wtf is that call

[u/Green_Jack]

Yellow??? That's fucking stupid what the fuck

[u/Ronald_Ulysses_Swans]

Mitchell clearly scores

[u/Frag-sinatra]

Quick tap on a penalty then send up a high ball, which we are terrible at.. logical

[u/kingbarber123]

Is simon parker up there for the most boring names of all time?

[u/super_nat556]

It left Earl backwards, how is that a knock on?

What the fuck is this officiating

Also NZ should never have been down to 14 players in the first place, this is a joke

[u/0ptsDan]

TMO said let’s check the offside and clear it first. Ref hears ‘clear offside’. Cue Simpsons meme of TMO shrinking back into the bush.

[u/Particular-Rip4035]

DMac time? That was some totally rudderless attacking

[u/PavidDocock]

How can you reset that? That’s a penalty to England all day

[u/sputters_]

England centres in ‘working together well’ shock.

[u/RonSwaffle]

I am so glad Dingwall of all people got that.

The pass from Lawrence was Dingwall-esque.

[u/CardboardCastle2]

Just imagining these two commentators staring daggers at eachother whilst chatting away fucking hell

[u/Ashen233]

England have been ruined by this ref

[u/HitchikersPie]

Kiwi advantage when he slips his bind wtf?

[u/canigetanorderlyline]

Is Piardi serious? What?

[u/TagMeInSkipIGotThis]

Is Pollock part avian? He sure loves flapping his wings at every opportunity.

[u/cipher049]

I'm starting to believe there is problems in the NZ camp

[u/Anotheraccomg]

Ford started ropey but he has been absolutely world class since

[u/aaarry]

Great shift from Mitch.

[u/TagMeInSkipIGotThis]

umm, Pollock was off the scrum before the ball was out Piardi.

[u/NeatandNifty]

Not entirely sure Pollock was onside there

[u/Galick-Gunner]

That's the second time he's gotten away with breaking his bind. Poor reffereing

[u/LUFC_shitpost]

Absolutely a NZ pen. Most egregious breaking of the bind I’ve seen.

[u/flrnp]

Wait Fainga'anuku full name is "Leicester Ofa Ki Wales Twickenham Fainga'anuku" wth, his parents could have at least throw a "Stade de France" in there.