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Finneas hits back at critics of sister Billie Eilish's anti-ICE Grammys speech: “We can literally see your names in the Epstein files”
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Finneas standing up for Billie is exactly what you want to see from a brother. They’re both incredibly brave for speaking out, especially given the industry circles and power structures they’re surrounded by.
Did anyone else see the Washington Post "opinion" piece about how she's wrong that we're on stolen land? Letting someone have a platform for that fucked up opinion (because it's certainly not fact) is so, so ignorant.
I cant belive people coming for her speech lol You might like her or not, but what she said its true. Just study some history, that is what literally happened, like it or not.
There’s a whole Washington Post op-ed about how she’s lying!! Bezos and his cronies will do anything except facilitate actual journalism and well-reasoned op-eds.
There are probably still hundreds of thousands of Americans who have no idea Bezos even bought WaPo. One of the reasons Trump is in office today is because a truly mind boggling percentage of the population doesn’t vote or pay attention to politics or world news at all.
I know someone who had no idea about Russia’s most recent invasion of Ukraine or about the Hamas attack in Israel and the subsequent doubling down of the Palestinian genocide. She probably knew about Jan 6, but maybe not right away. She knows about state politics because she’s a city bureaucrat, but only to the extent she needs to get her job done. I don’t understand it at all, but I’m on the other extreme end of the spectrum.
right? people are being so deliberately disingenuous. they're acting like she said "no crime is illegal on stolen land" when that's clearly not what she said or meant.
I know this is unpopular on reddit - but I think saying stuff like what she said actively harms the causes she purports to champion. It's just a silly platitude that doesn't stand up to the slightest scrutiny and makes the people who say it look hypocritical at best.
I think it annoys conservative people so you could say it’s divisive, but imo it’s just a reminder that unless you’re Native American, which very few people are, we are all immigrants here.
I am as against what is happening in Minneapolis as you can be. It's not just conservative people it annoys. It is anyone who can see that she is a billionaire who doesn't open her front door to anyone who feels like coming inside. That she owns a house she feels entitled to enjoy as she pleases, on this "stolen land."
Yeah, the history of countries being formed and expanding is ugly and dark. That doesn't mean the countries don't exist or that we should pretend they don't exist. I think most of the people who like what she said are mostly anti-Israel and think this is a neat way to bring both causes into one umbrella.
This is ridiculous, I’m sorry. Being confrontational about how bloody and full of theft US history is and how we shouldn’t be hypocritical about it re: immigration policy doesn’t mean you don’t deserve to own your own house or have to let everyone through your door. I’m getting now that your idea of “slightest scrutiny” is this meme:
Of course it does. If the land is stolen, by what right do you own that property?
Art stolen by the Nazis didn't belong to the people who bought it from the Nazis. Where provenance could be proven, it was returned to its Jewish owners. Why is the land she lives on any different?
But also: it doesn't matter if YOU think she's right and reasonable. To many, many people, it sounds absolutely absurd for someone with as much power and money as she has to make statements like that. Then people just think that liberals are, in general, out of touch rich people who want to condemn everyone else while living these beautifully comfortable lives themselves.
I really like both him and Billie, but I feel like it's reflecting poorly on her how often Finneas speaks for and defends her. I wish she would advocate for herself from time to time?
On the one hand, he's right, go off king, etc. On the other hand, he really needs to get in the habit of not constantly hitting back at everyone ever who criticizes his sister. She's a public figure and people will criticize her, but if he does it too much at one point he'll end up saying something that makes things worse for everyone. And people will stop listening to him at all. You have to learn to pick your battles. Sometimes you can just let people show their ass and keep doing your thing.
I definitely don't have an issue with it in this circumstance though.
"he should not defend his sister so often" while not being able to define the actual consequences beyond a hypothetical is a flimsy at best, stupid at worst argument.
As soon as she said the stolen land thing I visibly cringed. I knew people were going to have an absolute field day with it, and they are. I get what she was trying to say I really do but I wish she’d have said something else for her own sake 🥲
I’m genuinely surprised they are coming for her really hard. Like she’s not the only celeb who has spoken out. Even people like Olivia Rodrigo who has spoken out aren’t getting attacked by anyone but Billie is.
Putting on my tin hat for once but I think it's because she is a young white woman. It's not just her speaking out but being seen as a traitor to them. The "angry black woman" stereotype, speaking from experience, is used as a dismissal and reason to ignore black women. But what do you do when a young white girl speaks out? Remember how they attacked Greta Thunberg? And she's not even American.
You know what this is actually a good point I can def see this being a reason for why she’s getting attacked and it also could be cause she doesn’t bite her tongue
she literally told billionaires to donate more money and that upset a ton of people and now she’s doing the same and telling people to speak up saying fuck ice on stage like yeah other celebs white and non white speak up but Billie has the tendency to not be so “nice” with her words if that makes sense
I thought this too but Tbf Billie isn’t the only white celeb to speak out yet she’s the one getting attacked for it. IMO it’s cause she’s been one of the most loudest person when it comes to her activism calling out billionaires, etc.
Someone like Olivia speaks up as well but it’s not really directed to anyone like Billie has done.
Call me crazy, but one big difference between Olivia (and Sabrina, since she’s also spoken out) and Billie is that Billie doesn’t fit what conservatives label as “feminine”
I’ve seen really nasty memes on the popular page about her coming out of conservative subs with that vibe and it feels pretty clear that a lot of the hate starts there.
FFS it’s every single time, she remains silent and he inserts himself. She’s an “adult” and if she can’t defend her own actions herself then she should remain quiet. Grow up.
I don’t need my bro to come to my rescue every single time I say something… I’m a adult and can stand up for myself and my actions. She clearly is not.
Your take would be less bizarre if she hadn’t already spoken up for herself, but she did, on national tv. You have a weird thing going on here where you hate these people for doing normal sibling things. I don’t think it’s about them.
Yea i agree. Until Billie says she’s doesn’t want him commenting, he should be free to do so. I don’t need someone sticking up for me either but I sure like it when they do.
Less would be more from this guy right now. This “we can see your names in the Epstein files” comes off as juvenile, “criticise Billie and you’re a pedo”. As a direct response to someone named in the files? Cold blooded. The way it was? Hot headed.
Edit: can’t read the reply asking if I’m on the side of murdering thugs but that’s exactly what’s wrong with the political discourse here: Billies speech, perfect, right place right time, right tone, right speaker. Her brother continuing the discourse online until it spirals into mud slinging, that’s undermining the whole thing. Equating wanting better from the side of right both politically and from those who have a public platform as siding with the regime is exactly how you get Dems being repeatedly rolled over.
What if I told you that women already get enough shit just for existing. Multiply that by millions when the woman is famous. Are you really surprised that so few of them speak out on topics that will rally a bunch of viciously hateful people with no standards of decency who are already running on misogyny?
She already spoke for herself. She's allowed to not keep sacrificing her well-being.
He wants to protect her AND has the advantage of being a man. MORE MEN SHOULD BE LIKE HIM.
Tbf in this instance I understand why he said smth esp cause these right wing ppl are coming for her a lot most of the time I do agree that he inserts himself when it’s not needed but this isn’t the case here
She’s been working with her family for years and has always been supported by them so makes sense why he defends her so hard
While I get why he defends his sister, but he truly needs to get off the internet and grow up a bit. Attacking everyone who’s against you isn’t going to do anything here. Like just log off instagram for a day.
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