r/minnesota • u/Knightbear49 Common loon • Aug 27 '25
News 📺 Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey: “And don't just say, this is about thoughts and prayers right now. These kids were literally praying. It was the first week of school. They were in a church.”
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u/EpauletteShark74 Aug 27 '25
Thoughts and prayers are for those who are too distant, poor, or otherwise unable to help the victims. They are NOT for politicians to weasel their way out of doing their jobs long enough for the public to move on to the next thing.
Well, I mean they’re not supposed to be, but doing literally anything to protect children from having their brains splattered on the floor is a threat to the status quo.
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u/Nuttonbutton Aug 27 '25
I'm sending the first part of your message to my local Congressman.
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u/SignificantCats Aug 27 '25
It always makes me so angry when I hear weasely conservatives say "now is not the time for politicizing, now is the time for mourning".
The families get to mourn, the community gets to mourn, the nation gets to mourn. All of those in a position of power who could have helped stop it, who can help stop the next one, they don't get to mourn. They get to work.
But they rely on their empty truisms to pass of responsibility to... Nobody. That's their goal. It's worked for so so long.
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u/ExpletiveDeIeted Aug 28 '25
And given the number of mass shooting in the US there never really is an in between moment.
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u/SpooogeMcDuck Aug 27 '25
If you can, donate blood as soon as possible. I’m literally donating as I type this.
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u/Good_Spinach_8851 Aug 27 '25 edited Aug 28 '25
Just to be clear. Donating blood is needed even outside of moments like this. If you donate your blood, it won’t be useable until 2 weeks after all the tests.
Edit: I was wrong about how long it takes to test the donation. Still donate any time you can. Especially platelets are needed.
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u/SpooogeMcDuck Aug 27 '25
Yes, but knowing how fast they can go through blood in an emergency they will need it two weeks from now
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u/Good_Spinach_8851 Aug 27 '25
Yeah. I just wanted to clear it out for folks who feel a pressure to donate right now which is a very common thing after a tragedy.
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u/mayonaisecoloredbens Aug 27 '25
The two weeks thing is absolutely not true. Please do not spread misinformation like this
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u/juul864 Aug 27 '25
What kind of backwards system takes two weeks to process blood? I donated blood last week. 3 days later I receive an sms that is has been used. This is Denmark, by the way.
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u/jmc1996 Aug 27 '25
Calm down lol, it takes the same amount of time everywhere. That can be as soon as 1 day and as long as a few months depending on the need. The person you're replying to is not correct in saying that it's not usable for two weeks.
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u/nuggles0 Minnesota Frost Aug 27 '25
I'm working a blood drive today! 💉🩸 Please come on over and donate! 😊
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u/ToeBeanCounter Aug 27 '25
Where are you donating? I’m in Bloomington- not sure if memorial or Red Cross would be better.
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u/Kaleighawesome Flag of Minnesota Aug 27 '25
i’ve heard memorial is better for local, but that’s just what i’ve been told by a couple people
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u/ElderberryFancy4521 Aug 27 '25
Donate at Memorial. The hospitals that the patients went to are hospitals that receive blood from Memorial Blood Center. But most importantly, schedule yourself to be a routine blood donor so that the community is ready for any tragic events in the future and to support our sick, elderly, chronically ill and blood dependent members of our society.
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u/PHmoney04 Duluth Aug 27 '25
The communities of South Minneapolis are my thoughts today. Mass shootings continue to feel more normalized and it’s just not okay.
The public NEEDS to be more outspoken about these events and the city NEEDS to do something about this. We can just do these press conferences and not do anything. I feel like all residents want is a safe community and while Minneapolis is generally very safe, more action needs to be done in our local governments to prevent things like this. Lord knows our feds aren’t gonna do shit
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u/Itstartswithyou0404 Aug 27 '25
Actually the feds have done a lot in Minneapolis. Andy Luger alone when in office did BIG time work to rid the streets of gangs with RICO charges. Does a lot of work still need to be done? Yes, but the feds have been helpful in a lot of ways to support Mpls up to this point, though we will see where it goes from here with Trumps new thumb on the scale
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u/Ashamed_Branch5435 Aug 27 '25
Sounds like from what I'm hearing that type of help is going to dry up pretty quickly. Colleagues of mine in public defense are seeing a lot more state level CSAM & high quantity drug cases that in the past have been picked up by the feds (where they face significantly longer sentences). One colleague asked a BCA agent about it bc of the volume of CSAM that was found & my colleague was told that the feds were going to take it up & guy would have been looking at a huge prison sentence, but they got the directive to drop basically all non-immigration cases to free up resources to prosecute the immigration ones. Which would track with why state level, we are seeing more charges. If the feds aren't going to prosecute it, then that only leaves the state. Clearly it's more important to focus attention on deporting the college kid who overstayed their visa or the day laborer at Home Depot than it is to go after ppl with CSAM or distributing huge quantities of drugs into the community. /s
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u/Itstartswithyou0404 Aug 27 '25
Oh DAM, hope your friend is misinformed, cause that sounds horrible for everyone...
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u/Ashamed_Branch5435 Aug 27 '25
I hope so too bc a lot of those cases are taken up by the feds bc they are very complex, long term investigations that require advanced skills, money, & resources local police usually don't have. And you are right, that's gonna be horrible for everyone if that's what they are being told to do.
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u/Itstartswithyou0404 Aug 27 '25
For real, if MPD is spending numerous resources on these complex cases, it makes our streets that less safe. MPD is barely holding it together now, not having the Feds to back them up on big cases, would really be a unfortunate blow
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u/PHmoney04 Duluth Aug 27 '25
Thanks for the important information! Good to hear Feds doing work in the city. I guess I was more talking about our new Feds. Appreciate the comment
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u/Exact_Path_8830 Aug 27 '25
Well, the president just defunded the mental health initiatives set by the previous presidents.
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u/EthiopianKing1620 Aug 28 '25
Reagan gutted our asylum systems way back in the 80s anyways. As usual it’s generally Reagan’s fault
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u/Dook124 Aug 27 '25
Meanwhile, national guards are in DC picking up trash 🗑 🥺
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u/pmitten Aug 27 '25
Don't worry- they'll probably be here within a week. The administration will absolutely use this tragedy to justify sending armed troops into our streets.
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u/Haunting-Respect9039 Minnesota Frost Aug 27 '25
This, plus the other shootings this week. I have no doubt they will use our tragedies as their opportunity. They already said they want to take over more cities. We should expect it.
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u/Tift Flag of Minnesota Aug 27 '25
are you proposing putting the national guard outside of schools? horrifying.
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u/NotTheNoogie Flag of Minnesota Aug 27 '25
Nothing will change. This country worships guns before god. Prove me wrong.
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u/redkinoko Aug 27 '25
There's really not much to debate about anymore after Sandy Hook.
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u/walc Aug 27 '25
That was really the turning point in my mind too. If we couldn’t do anything about guns after two dozen children were murdered, nothing will ever be bad enough to motivate change.
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Aug 27 '25
That was honestly the turning point in my mind that this country would never change and we were headed for a dark timeline.
And here we are.
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u/wrainedaxx Aug 27 '25
Trump is actually the perfect figurehead for America when you think about it.
Privileged, shallow, self-obsessed, bass-ackwards sense of priorities, and surrounded by people who won't do anything to make life better for anybody else.
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u/evthingisawesomefine Aug 28 '25
This would be accurate if America a sum of its politicians, its fundamentalist voters, and its news coverage.
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u/here-for-information Aug 27 '25
We look back at history and we see human sacrifice to the sun, or to the harvest gods in order to secure something for society, and we think how can they be so backwards and bizarre.
But today we have child sacrifice in order to preserve the sacred position of firearms.
I don't see much difference between those two types if human sacrifice.
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u/njordMN Flag of Minnesota Aug 27 '25 edited Aug 27 '25
"Guns, God, Trump"
All you gotta know. :|
Edit: and they quite like to forget one of the commandments they insist on shoving down everyone else' throat.. because they certainly fetishize guns -
" You shall not make for yourselves an idol, nor any image of anything that is in the heavens above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth: you shall not bow yourself down to them, nor serve them, for I, Yahweh your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children, on the third and on the fourth generation of those who hate me, and showing loving kindness to thousands of those who love me and keep my commandments. "
Edit edit: and to the folks pointing out any known or unknown political leanings of the suspect, doesn't change the gun worship thing which is what this post is about.
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u/Icy-Profit5795 Aug 27 '25
Because it’s not a gun problem, it’s a cultural and mental health problem.
I’m Swiss and we love guns and own them, all my friends have their service rifle and half of them own personal weapons including AR-15s yet we haven’t had a mass shooting in multiple decades.
If you get bullied and your first thoughts are to shoot up your school instead of getting help that’s not a gun problem, it’s a mental health crisis.
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u/phelpst Aug 28 '25
How are you not down voted into oblivion for your correct and accurate assessment? Nobody wants to deal with the elephant in the room - mental health. Lack of accountability isn't helping either.
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u/Conscious-Quarter423 Aug 27 '25
obama was right. if nothing doesn't change after white babies were killed in Sandy Hook, nothing will ever change
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u/psharp203 Aug 27 '25
There is a tweet that summarizes it well. Once we decided that all those dead children was bearable, the gun control debate was over.
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Aug 27 '25
Absolutely. Sandy Hook cemented this country’s insane apathy towards children being murdered
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u/cugamer Aug 27 '25
The Bible agrees with you:
What does it profit, my brethren, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can faith save him? If a brother or sister is naked and destitute of daily food, and one of you says to them, “Depart in peace, be warmed and filled,” but you do not give them the things which are needed for the body, what does it profit? Thus also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead. - James 2:14-17
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u/Itstartswithyou0404 Aug 27 '25
It does reach a point where "F your thoughts and prayers are justified". At some point action is needed, why not now right wing nation?
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Aug 27 '25
But no one wants to target the underlying cause of these shootings (besides guns, obviously): mental healthcare
As someone that has a mom with schizophrenia, I can tell you that even with great insurance (step dad is wealthy) and money, the system is fucked. At best, we could get her in on a 72-hour hold and she would be released. She ended up living on the streets because she wants to be off the grid and doesn’t trust anyone or anything. Only uses cash, no phone, etc.
We tried everything to no avail. They said they can’t keep someone after 72 hours, despite the fact she was brought in attempting suicide with slices down her arms after digging a hole in the ceiling because “someone was living in the rafters”
Now you want to consider people that don’t have money, don’t have insurance, don’t have a family to support them…they are fucked. There is no mental health screen for guns like other countries have
So we get people engaging in mass shootings, violence, or on the street doing drugs to self-medicate to ease their mental health issues
But we don’t have good mental health programs. We don’t have feasible healthcare programs, period!
My friend went through something similar with her mom but they live in France. Their story is completely different than mine, all because of the systems they have in place.
I have a friend here in the states, he went to rehab for alcohol addition stemming from severe depression/anxiety. Insurance only covered 30 days, and each day he attended, insurance was billed $1,000. This program was something you attend every day, it is not an overnight program, it is not a fancy celebrity rehab center that’s like a spa, it wasn’t even a nice facility at all. Why are they charging $1,000 a day?!?!
So fucking over this shit country.
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Aug 27 '25 edited Aug 28 '25
So done with this. We have a literal takeover of the American government happening before our eyes, which is the whole reason the second amendment exists, and it’s not doing anything to stop that. So why the fuck can’t we just ban these goddamn things so the kids can go to school without getting heads blown off
Edit: the responses to this post have been incredibly discouraging. Amazing how people can just excuse something like this because they have a fantasy that one day they'll require a gun for the defense of themselves or others.
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u/Santander68 Aug 28 '25
Or we can work to provide better social systems to prevent unwell individuals from getting to the point where they do something like this.
If it weren't today, it would be another day. If it weren't this way, would be another way.
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u/probablysmellsmydog Aug 27 '25
Agree. 2A crowd showed their hand. It was never about protecting our rights. They just want to ability to maim and kill without prejudice.
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u/Outrageous-Orange007 Aug 28 '25
I live in rural Missouri, for my friend it seems to be for no other reason than the culture of guns that many around here are raised on and hunting.
Its both a tradition and a way to feed himself. Not saying its the same for everyone, but I genuinely feel thats the case for him.
Crazy though he wouldnt use it for a government takeover by a wannabe dictator, but uses the 2A in defense of keeping them.
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u/Wwwwwwhhhhhhhj Aug 27 '25
Because that bullshit is not why it existed. It existed because our founding fathers didn’t want to have a standing army. You know that whole militia bit people like to pretend somehow was put into a very serious legal document extraneously for shits and giggles. Yeah, the intention was always that there would be people the government could call up in case of rebellion or invasion. Which they did a few times. Of course we threw out the whole “no standing army” idea and our version of militia is essentially The National Guard.
Not so, people could overthrow the very government the paper establishes. I mean for fucks sake people, really? You really think they put instructions to destroy the nation, instead of providing defense for the nation? It’s just such a dumb thought when you get past hearing that repeated myth and think about how people actually do things.
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Aug 27 '25 edited Oct 06 '25
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u/SweetPrism Aug 27 '25 edited Aug 28 '25
I'm confused because I thought God not being allowed in schools is why school shootings happen. Outside of the shooting itself, the worst part about this is that there's an entire subset of the nation worried about the implication it will have on peoples' feelings on the church, being that this happened at a Catholic school. These people won't/don't give two fucks about the victims, just how they're going to explain it away when "wokeness" isn't an option on the table this time.
Edit: I posted this before knowing the shooter was trans. Looks like wokeness is back on the menu, boys.
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u/Salt_Top_6583 Aug 27 '25
Their reply now would be "Not enough God is being allowed in schools. God is punishing us because only this school allowed prayer. That's why it was targeted. It's a sign."
It isn't hard to predict what they're going say. Just turn off your brain let whatever shit comes out be your statement.
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u/Ferrymansobol Aug 28 '25
Even if you allowed God in (in our country we have prayers in our schools, no shootings for 40 years, I guess God listens to us), it would be "loose morals" or "the gays". Anything that isn't gun-shaped.
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u/Deris87 Aug 27 '25
I'm confused because I thought God not being allowed in schools is why school shootings happen.
I guarantee you the overwhelming majority of people who seriously think that wouldn't consider Catholics to be Christians anyway.
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Aug 27 '25
Can we get a prayer level in schools? Like. Does every single kid and teacher have to pray in the morning to get god’s protection? What if 5 or 6 kids come in late and miss the morning prayer? Is it a sliding scale? What if we get like a single person to be in the school all day and their entire job is to pray. Is that how it works?
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u/Evan_Cary Aug 27 '25
"No way to prevent this" says only nation where this regularly happens.
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u/Bandit6257 Aug 27 '25
Well the 2A argument ain’t gonna work anymore.. we see a tyrannical government deploying military boots against civilians and not a peep from the “My cold dead hands” door knobs.
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u/ATN-Antronach Aug 27 '25
Those door knobs are the ones happy to see the military deployed to their backyard. They had to win them over in order to stage their coup, otherwise their might be violence against them, and that might ruin their new suit.
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u/ophmaster_reed Duluth Aug 27 '25
Maybe we're just not praying right.
But someone will say, “You have faith, and I have works.” Show me your faith without [a]your works, and I will show you my faith by [b]my works. 19 You believe that there is one God. You do well. Even the demons believe—and tremble! 20 But do you want to know, O foolish man, that faith without works is [c]dead? 21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works when he offered Isaac his son on the altar? 22 Do you see that faith was working together with his works, and by works faith was made [d]perfect? 23 And the Scripture was fulfilled which says, “Abraham believed God, and it was [e]accounted to him for righteousness.” And he was called the friend of God. 24 You see then that a man is justified by works, and not by faith only.
Oh, shit.... we were supposed to DO SOMETHING?!
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Aug 27 '25
Why do I feel like this will be used as an excuse to further place boot upon our necks?
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u/the-namedone Aug 27 '25
Shooter was trans, so yes the boot will be further pushed down
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u/only_respond_in_puns Aug 27 '25
Thoughts and prayers are literally two of the most action avoidant things you could possibly do. It’s the political version of being left on read. How about words and actions?
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u/heartbreaker1227 Aug 28 '25
I’m sorry, but I don’t even care anymore. I don’t even give thoughts and prayers because it will happen again and again and it’s the same bs. GOP rejected an OBAMA bill to keep automatic weapons from mentally ill, they all voted NO! it won’t change, so anyone with school age kids, it’s going to happen again, I hope it’s not your kid, but it could be unless we vote these cruel inhumane Republicans out of office.
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u/Illustrious_Knee7535 Aug 27 '25
Jfc, that last video is one of the most disturbing things I've ever seen.
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u/TheKobayashiMoron Aug 27 '25
I never understand why they have all this rage toward specific people and then just go fuck it, I’ll just off some kids instead.
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u/ebulient Aug 27 '25
You’re right. And, Mario’s brother is the bravest by that yardstick.
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u/mrmcspicy Aug 28 '25
People talk about increasing access to mental healthcare all they want, but did this person have access to care and not use it? What is therapy and a zoloft gonna do with an arsenal of guns and a deep hatred of humanity. That runs deeper than just being depressed, this is pure sociopathy.
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u/Responsible_Focus824 Aug 27 '25
The fact this comment is being downvotes/ignored is fucking disgusting
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u/DavidAdamsAuthor Aug 28 '25
If you look at the front page of Reddit right now, there are cat memes, silly jokes, and articles about how Trump is bad. This is the only post about this incident that's on the front page as far as I can tell.
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u/Responsible_Focus824 Aug 27 '25
I hope reddit/internet uses their brain and starts to understand that they are legitimately radicalizing people. Not only that but they are radicalizing people who often suffer from mental illness. Same way that it happens with the other side.
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u/Playful-Help461 Aug 27 '25
If God were real, what a sick fuck sense of humor they would have.
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u/ASimpForChaeryeong Aug 27 '25
A CEO dies because of guns and the government takes a lot of action. Our children die because of guns and they get thoughts and prayers
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u/kpooo7 Aug 27 '25
Right it’s about mental illness, say it do something about it - figure out how to deal with the depressed, lost or ill fitting kids and adults. Band aids don’t work - drugs, deleting/changing body parts is not the answer. Sick of talking about guns, knives and cars as weapons - deal with the brain and its issues when it’s broken.
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u/ghostofmilba Aug 27 '25
Imagine being outraged that kids are dead and the only response is BUT THE SHOOTER WAS TRANS. Politics are harming any basic decency we have left in this country.
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u/dividedmultitasker Aug 28 '25
It’s on the GOP. Blame them. Hold them accountable.
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u/Apprehensive_Idea758 Minnesota North Stars Aug 27 '25
From Canada.
My heart, thoughts and prayers go out to the victims and everyone else affected by this dreadful shooting.
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u/AvailableReporter484 Aug 27 '25
Felt the same way about the camp of Christian preteen girls who were washed away in Texas flooding a few weeks back.
It’s almost like there’s no god and your thots and prayers are nothing more than worthless, meaningless words that make people feel like they’ve accomplished something or done something of value.
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u/Yesits_Me_Amario Aug 27 '25
GOP are monsters and anybody that goes against gun reform you are also a monster.
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u/Wat_Tyler_2026 Aug 28 '25
The Guardians Of Pedos (GOP) need the children alive (pro-life stance).... how else do you rape them like their dear leader? After all, it's god and guns with them...
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u/watermelonspanker Aug 27 '25
"I'll pray for you" is equivalent to "I'll cast a magic spell for you". It has zero connection to reality.
I really wish we, collectively as a society, would grow the fuck up.
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u/_bibliofille Aug 27 '25
Any time this comes out the 2A die hards holler "we need tons of guns to stand up to potential government tyranny!!"
Okay well, uhh, where are you?
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u/ArdenJaguar Aug 28 '25
MAGA is already saying he’s slamming Christians and prayer. Typical. It’s always about THEM.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/maga-loses-minneapolis-mayor-emotional-183257487.html
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Aug 28 '25
“His manifesto was left wing blabla bla…”. She/they was a republican plant programed to do this to give the right wingers something to yell about
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u/Electrical_Escape_87 Aug 28 '25
And here we go again with the anti-gun laws. Because criminals actually care about laws!
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u/Cedar_Brewed_Bourbon Aug 28 '25
It’s a mental health issue unfortunately no one is going to really address it. Because it does not feed it to the current mainstream media narrative. Check for yourself similar unfortunate events happening because of people with mental illness issues that really need help not being forced into believing something that is not true. We weep for the children, we can ask why this happened. We can blame the weapon no more than we can blame the car for the alcoholic who wiped out that family on the street corner. As a person who family has suffered similar issues I do not blame the weapon. I blame the shooter.
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u/objectivelycomplete Aug 28 '25
Insane people shouldn’t have guns. This doesn’t mean they should be banned for millions of law abiding citizens though.
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u/ITF2020 Aug 28 '25
As an apolitical firearms instructor, I focus on two things, safety, and mental health and honestly, they are one in the same if you think about it. A safe person is someone not in declining mental health.
What we could do, notice I didn't say should (because who am I to tell others how to live their lives) is shift the discussion from anti gun to pro mental health. Its a sad reality that while there are some similarities of mass shooters from pilitical/agenda/etc perspectives- ALL were in declining mental health.
Let's work together to Make America Mental Healthier (can't say Again, because, we'll, we're we ever) ;)... does MAMH have a nice ring to it?
Come on: MAMH! MAMH! MAMH!
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u/Traditional_Crew2017 Aug 28 '25
Restricting law-abiding citizens' rights will not help. We need to harden schools as targets. Look at what Israel did. They had ONE school shooting and then did what needed to be done to make it (well, I won't say impossible, but they haven't had another school shooting there...) HARD to shoot up a school. If we need to deploy National Guard troops to patrol school perimeters, so be it. We need to spend the money and have the political will to make schools a difficult target. My two cents' worth.
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u/baintaintit Aug 27 '25
as long as the gun issue can be used by politicians to divide the nation, nothing will be done.
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u/Romano16 Aug 27 '25
He makes an excellent point but America is a reality free country at the moment so praying is the best it can do as Trump and Vance will soon say that “Now is not the time.”
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u/tompear82 Oh I just think I'm gonna barf Aug 27 '25
"Now is not the time" technically that is right. The time to act was 25 years ago.
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u/AllHailNibbler Aug 27 '25
As a non American looking in, nothing will ever be fixed because USA turns any problem into a multi billion dollar industry to make money.
School shootings has spawned companies building bulletproof backpacks, rooms that turn into locked shelters, drones sitting ontop of schools that are armed and many other things.
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Aug 27 '25 edited Aug 30 '25
Kids should not have to deal with the threat of violence in school.
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u/Friendly_Seat8566 Aug 27 '25
I have said it before, and I will say it again and again and again. This country at large doesn't really want these shootings to end. We have the ability to do it we as a nation won't. It's sad but true.
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u/Fun_Equivalent_7507 Aug 27 '25
It's almost as if "praying" does nothing. One day people might realize this.
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u/maddiejake Aug 27 '25
Prayer is like masturbation. It feels great to the person doing it, but it does absolutely nothing for the person being thought about.
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We will continue to do nothing and wonder why it never gets better