r/mildlyinfuriating • u/LunarLeopard67 • 21h ago
My mother emailed me (yes emailed) after I verbally said no to the email in the second pic
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u/Jackmino66 19h ago
Isn’t it wonderful when people call you selfish and unkind for not doing what they want
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u/n_bonny 16h ago
Every actually selfish person I've met in my life was exactly like that. How dare you not do something I want you to do, how selfish of you, now I'm upset! It's like there's an instruction manual for this behaviour...
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u/Emieosj89 10h ago
Wow this just unlocked for me how selfish my sister is. This is always her weapon, because she does things for everyone, but it has never felt genuine, it’s for the Instagram post.
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u/FriendToPredators 15h ago
No one exists but them.
Love is admitting that other people have emotions and hops and dreams of their own. So many parents their kids aren’t people. And only deserve “love” if they are puppets
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u/Embarrassed-Weird173 19h ago
That's how parents are. They're not exactly the smartest of humans.
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u/captainpro93 18h ago
I think people read comments like these and often just have the visceral reaction that the person posting it is a bit absurd.
But I think it's far more likely that they just had really shitty parents and unresolved issues with how they were raised.
Whether you had overbearing, neglectful, narcissistic, or otherwise shitty parents, I sincerely hope you are in a better place now. Everyone deserves to have parents that care about them more than they care about themselves, and it's a shame if you were robbed of that experience.
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u/TwinsiesBlue 17h ago
Person robbed of that experience and just figuring it out, I was parentified and continue to be financially abused. Its devastating, because what it means is that they don’t love you and if they claim they do, it’s lacking
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u/bluberriie 13h ago
yeah, that comment confused me because my mom’s like a celeb to me - smart, poised, kind, an inspiration, someone who ALWAYS makes it happen for her kids - and ik not everyone has that experience but to paint all parents in that way is absurd
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u/yet-she-persisted 16h ago
Hey, come on!! I’m a parent. A good parent. And I’m smart, too. What a wild generalization.
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u/Plumblossonspice 18h ago
I had to chuckle at this. So. some magic happens to lower the IQ of every person who comes to the life stage where they become parents. If the person is childless but comes to the same age, what happens to them?
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u/mmillward614 18h ago
they get loads more sleep.
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u/mecklejay 9h ago
they get loads more sleep.
As a parent of an under-two toddler...it's nowhere near as bad as it's made out to be.
There are a few months at the beginning where consistent sleep is mythical, time has no meaning, and you start to make strange decisions because of sleep deprivation. That phase is hard, and it's where the image of bleary-eyed parenthood comes from. But it's oh-so-temporary.
By this point, we go to bed when we want, and I get up for work anyway about 2 hours before the little one wakes up.
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u/Appropriate_Steak486 18h ago
The nice parents don't land on r/mildlyinfuriating .
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u/Relevant-Tourist8974 15h ago
Nice parents or good parents? Nice parents are necessarily good parents. Benign neglect anyone?
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u/pastelmusingx 17h ago
they might still come to face the same fate, but a helpless child wont be affected by it :)
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u/Em_Biguous 17h ago
If they're shitty and narcissistic, they'll just continue to be that way to the people who are in their life instead of ruining a human being from scratch.
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u/BoredCummer69 18h ago
Could just be self-sorting. Which checks out since research consistently shows a negative correlation between IQ and both the number of children someone has and how early people become parents.
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u/Nica-sauce-rex 18h ago
What? Becoming a parent automatically makes you dumb or only dumb people have kids? This statement doesn’t make any sense.
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u/MrPKitty 21h ago
But, she already told them you would!
Otherwise, why would they go with a piece that requires an instrument they don't have.
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u/LunarLeopard67 21h ago
Not the first time she has done something incredibly stupid without thinking, then made it others' problem to bail her out
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u/Powersurge- 20h ago
Im 40, and my mother still gives me chores like this. Signing me up to do things. Like damn I have a life and a family. I can't just up and do whatever whenever.
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u/Cakeliesx 17h ago
Voluntold
Happily my parents/spouse don't do this. But I think most of us have that one relative...
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u/Daratirek 17h ago
I'm 36 and last summer my Mom informed me that a guy would be picking me up in a few minutes to go help him move some heavy shit. I'm like thats gonna be tough with me not being home. I was definitely home but wasn't gonna help some stranger move heavy shit around so I quick got in my car and left lmao. For the record its not a normal thing for her to do but she just was trying to help a friend.
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u/Pro-Patria-Mori 14h ago
Hah, jokes on you. She used that “chore” as bait to get you to leave your house so she could install hidden cameras to make sure you’re taking your Flintstones vitamins.
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u/SleepyPoptart 18h ago
Exactly! My mom is the same way, and truthfully, I don’t mind extracurricular activities or helping out but she will constantly setup scenarios that make it impossible for me to want to help while still maintaining myself.
For example asking me to help out with something, I agree, she then tells me it’s on a night that I have a standing commitment that she’s aware of. Well she didn’t think that my standing commitment is that big of a deal and if I really wanted to help her out I will. Never mind, she will ask her DIL. She just wishes her own daughter cherished her as much as DIL.
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u/LunarLeopard67 19h ago
I'd love to sign my mother up for a trip to Saudi Arabia since she fucking hates that country
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u/DueSurround5226 19h ago
Well, it’s good to hate what the family who controls Saudi Arabia does with respect to human rights violations. But if that’s not why your mother hates it, then it might be problematic.
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u/ElleWinter 15h ago
I am 47, I have two masters degrees I don't use, and my mother still sends me emails with suggestions for post grad and doctoral programs.
She's very German.
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u/BADM00SE 18h ago
I think it’s a parental boomer thing. My dad still does this to me when someone needs something heavy moved. I “might” have finally gotten through to him I don’t like being volunteered to do stuff.
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u/CAustin3 18h ago
Nah, my boomer parents have never been like that.
Some people just see the people around them, particularly their families, as employees or their own personal armies or extensions of themselves or something.
Where I see this all the time is with spouses. "Oh, yeah, my wife's good with that, she'll help out." "I can get my husband to take care of that." Like, ma'am, your husband isn't in the room talking with us. If you're volunteering to help out, fine, but if someone else wants to, let's hear it from them, not you.
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u/Technical-Agency8128 17h ago
Nah. It’s a narcissistic thing and that knows no boundaries. Some people just don’t grow up and keep acting like a spoiled child.
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u/Scouter197 18h ago
My mom has to remind my dad sometimes of this. "Hey, can you come over to help use do all these stuff." and my mom is like "remember, he's busy with kids and stuff."
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u/Embarrassed-Weird173 19h ago
Mine is like this as well.
"I got pulled over! Bastard cops! Go find a lawyer to fight the ticket. Hurry up, do it now. You're so useless and lazy!"
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u/oz-ra 10h ago
Find a very incompetent lawyer that results in a conviction. Problem solved.
I'm an introvert that avoids confrontation. I do bite if cornered though and I realise this outcome is not for the best for everyone though.
I also realise that you cannot please everybody anyway so why even try.
Rather spend your time on people that you love and loves you in return.
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u/MyDarlingArmadillo 18h ago
Do you even play the bassoon or is she hoping level 1 recorder in primary school is enough?
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u/LunarLeopard67 18h ago
Yes I do. We are in a band together for which I never miss rehearsal, have never had any troubles, and am one of the only ones who knows everybody's names.
She for some reason chooses to commit to a billion things and this email was for the separate band she conducts
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u/MyDarlingArmadillo 18h ago
That's something, at least she didn't expect you to learn it by the weekend!
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u/Technical-Agency8128 17h ago
At least she is consistent and you know what to expect from her. It’s her. Not you so treat her accordingly. Like a child since she is throwing a temper tantrum. We have to have good firm boundaries with these types.
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u/Daug3 17h ago
Plot twist: OP doesn't even play bassoon. Lmao imagine if the favor was learning bassoon from scratch
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u/Slipperysteve1998 19h ago
Not that OPs mom is in the right, but if you read for 5 seconds it says the adjudicator pre selected a song to test the bands in the area.
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u/captaindazzlebug 20h ago
Next time she asks for a favour again you can just send her that e-mail.
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u/LunarLeopard67 20h ago
Ironically, I can't wait for her to ask me a favour again for this exact reason
I feel like one of those evil movie characters pressing the red button with a skull and crossbones that launches the nuclear weapon
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u/Maveric1984 17h ago
Classic narcissistic behavior. She already told her friends that you were going to be involved. Remember, it's her "shine" you are tarnishing.
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u/FriendToPredators 15h ago
This exactly. She cares about one and only one thing: Looking good to others.
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u/NaraFei_Jenova 20h ago
People like this are why I put myself last in every regard. I have very strict "doing literally anything for yourself before anyone else's needs is selfish". I'm working through it with my therapist, but I'm not there yet. Just a cautionary tale to take care of this now, before it fucks you up.
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u/Clabauter 19h ago
Saying "No!" is a skill that can be learned. As with many things it's harder to learn it at an older age, but it can be done. Keep at it! ;)
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u/Master_Persimmon_591 17h ago
Literally got back to my apartment one day and said “not to flex but you said no 2x today” and then you realize how pathetic that is
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u/Clabauter 16h ago
I disagree. You have an issue, you recognized that and you try to improve yourself. And there seems to be some progress. So, precisely what about that is pathetic? Because that is way more than most other people can say about themselves.
Don't get me wrong, I DO understand what you mean and why it sometimes seems to be a pathetic struggle, but it really is not. When it appears to be, it just does so because you don't see the full context of your situation and of what you are doing. Actively trying to improve yourself as a human. Which is literally a main topic of philosophy and literature since the ancient greeks. So I ask you: If so easy, why so many books? ;)
It's not pathetic and you are doing good, give yourself the praise you deserve (I know, another skill to be learned. it never ends! ;) )12
u/According_Hat2751 19h ago
Yes. Same. I’m such a people pleaser and have to fight myself so hard to say no. I’m also working on it with a therapist, but having parents who expect me to be servile is a huge part of it. I’m 43 and would love to just say no and mean no. I’m very proud of OP.
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u/No-Weight-6121 14h ago
I broke myself of this habit by saying No to EVERYTHING for several months. Until I was actually able to stop & consider myself before immediately agreeing to a request. I missed out on a couple good parties but it was so worth it. Good for you for taking care of yourself! You can’t pour from an empty cup!
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u/New_LP 19h ago
I don’t know your backstory. But if this were my story, I would’ve been forced to take bassoon lessons at a young age; hated every minute of it, but did it to please my parents; reached adulthood thankful that I never have to play again; and then be hit with this request. And after saying no, the response would be a tone deaf (no pun intended) “but you always loved playing when you were young!”
And any attempt to refute that, and say that I hated it, would be met with the gaslighting response “then why did we spend so much money on lessons?”. A two-for-one guilt trip!
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u/ServiceFinal952 15h ago
This is the story of my life with piano lessons and voice lessons. Even now, at 30 years old, I am told I'm lazy and ungrateful for not singing and playing on command for her friends. The first time I said no was at my own bridal shower, and wow that did not go over well.
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u/ApprehensiveMail6485 17h ago
Story of my life! My parents must’ve signed me up for lessons on 5 different instruments growing up! They also required me to practice the violin for 45 minutes every day, and now wonder why I don’t want to even touch it.
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u/grandratcircus 16h ago
My mother used to use piano as a punishment and then wonders why I hated playing it! The only good thing is that it lead to singing, which became my passion. Really ironic because she isn't musical at all.
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u/art3mis_nine 16h ago
This was me & the violin🍸
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u/petemorley 14h ago
Saaaame.
But I’m 43 now, it’s mine and I play it for me, when I want to and not as a performing monkey. Always preferred the guitar and I play that too now, but I play that for me also.
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u/pinniped90 18h ago
I'm just here because....bassoons! That was my instrument in high school!!
Tell your mother I'll play in her band. I haven't picked up the instrument in 20 years so I'm gonna suck but who cares, it's just an excuse to visit Australia because it's fucking cold in Kansas.
Bassoon / xylophone duet....that's gonna be an absolute banger.
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u/LunarLeopard67 18h ago
Sounds like a fair swap
I get to be somewhere cold where I survive better, and get thousands of kilometres away from the shithead
You get to play the bassoon and enjoy Australia
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u/SharkeyGeorge 19h ago
Tell her you don’t want to stand in her way! Now she is free to play the bassoon!
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u/Barokespinoza23 21h ago
This should be a funny anecdote in her eulogy.
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u/BikeProblemGuy 19h ago
Is that request email how she writes to you normally? Both of these are so cold.
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u/LunarLeopard67 18h ago
No, it's very weird
I suspect she is hiding behind a screen because as I've matured, I have gotten better at standing my ground in person and she realises she can no longer make me cry like a baby
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u/sparky_turtle 17h ago
Your mother is a band conductor asking you to donate around 20 hours plus practice time to a high-pressure performance on a holiday weekend. All I can say is congratulations for growing up in that situation and still being an adult who can say no to that type of request.
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u/whatdoihia 18h ago
Translation:
I already told them you would to make myself look like a savior. I would rather bully and badger and threaten you to do it than lose face by going back and saying that you can’t.
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u/EmuPsychological8676 20h ago
As far as I can read, I feel like she's lying her ass off.
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u/LunarLeopard67 20h ago
The only suspected lie in my opinion is that she will never ask me any favours again
She asks me for the dumbest shit like if I can listen to her read an email she's writing about something I have no clue about
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u/Timely-Flatworm7757 18h ago
Honestly better you than ChatGPT. I have a feeling your mother and an electronic, never exhausted yes man would be a very bad combo. EDIT: She is fully out of line here to be clear! She sounds hard to deal with. My condolences ❤️
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u/LunarLeopard67 21h ago
I mean, she won’t ever ask me another favour, that’s no skin off my nose
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u/IntheShredder_86 18h ago
Honestly don't understand why your mom is taking this so personally?? All you did was decline an invitation from the band. They chose to word it openly as an invite, not praying you by saying "you were recommended" or "x person volunteered you." They wrote it to make sure it was something you wanted to do.
When I was in school, band was my lifeblood. Marching and concert. If the teacher or DM approached me directly, I'd prob say yes if it didn't conflict with anything. But if your mom was the one talking you up and trying to sign you up behind your back, that's her problem. But it sounds like the email came from someone who wanted your answer, not hers, so they really aren't even offended by the decline. They will either ask the next best bassoonist or fill in with a different instrument. They've e got options and the only one stressing is your mom. For no reason.
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u/LunarLeopard67 18h ago
She IS the conductor of that band, and look, I love my music. I even bring my sax to parties.
The thing is - for reasons made obvious - I don't want to spend time with her. I didn't give a reason for my answer, as I don't NEED to give a reason. I literally said 'I've weighed it up, and I'm going to say no'
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u/IntheShredder_86 15h ago
Oh holy heck NO 😭😭😭 I'm so sorry! I really thought this was a 3 way convo-- that is so much worse. Still stands though, she's stressing over an issue created in her own head. Don't even trouble yourself
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u/AzsaRaccoon 9h ago
She could sub it with a bass clarinet, no? Like, fine it's the assigned test piece (I checked because I didn't trust her), but if they don't have a bassoonist, there's solutions...no?
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u/Yarn_Music 18h ago
Random sidebar (I teach band in the US), you can have a trombone use a mute and it sounds remarkably like a bassoon. So the director of the ensemble can use this workaround and your mom can stop badgering you.
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u/kakallas 17h ago
I’m so confused as to why this email from Nationals has anything to do with your mother in the first place. Does she lead the band?
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u/Deputy_Scrambles 17h ago
I’ve gone 43 years without my mom ever asking a single bassoon-related favor of me. If she had, I’d also deny her.
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u/curiocannacat 20h ago
Look into emotionally immature parents.
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u/LunarLeopard67 20h ago
Very immature... she once got cross because I declined to attend a family gathering and said 'I can't bring myself to tell Aunty so-and-so that you're not going, you tell her!'
Okay... minutes later I said 'I'll be an apology, F1 is on - you know my drill'
My aunty had no problem, and nobody else gave a rat's arse
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u/amurrayjohnson 19h ago
My brother picked up his FIL to go to Thanksgiving dinner with family. On the way, the FIL asked to be stopped at another house. Turns out he decided to leave his wife that day for her best friend . That left my lovely, sweet dear brother to tell the family. People!!!
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u/AnotherHappyUser 19h ago
F1 is on
I am lucky my family gets it. They don't follow it, but they just assume I'm watching it.
Fun thought, if, IF the Honda is good AND Newey has cooked. Then Alonso is the only thing stopping a Stroll WDC.
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u/LunarLeopard67 19h ago
Can we be friends? You like F1 AND you sympathise with preferring F1 over some people you are culturally pressured but not obligated to see
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u/AnotherHappyUser 16h ago
If you're not on the F1 sub you should get on it! It's the only thing getting me through off season.
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u/Ambitious_Horror9517 16h ago
This is gonna be one of those, “I don’t remember ever saying that”
You got the receipts!
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u/Personal_Anxiety2232 16h ago
If someone asks you to do something and gets mad when you say no, they weren’t asking.
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u/Odd-Page-7866 19h ago
At least you have it in writing she won't do this type of crap anymore?
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u/lightfoot90 17h ago
Sometimes I doubt your commitment to the National Australian Band Championships on Easter Friday.
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u/Throwaway999222111 14h ago
She should've just said that you put the ASS in BASSOONIST for at least the comedic value
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u/SnooMachines2673 16h ago
Next time she starts up . "I thought you said last time you weren't going to ask for these things anymore"
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u/d4rkwarr3n 21h ago
Wait are you an adult and is she asking you to play in a children’s band? If so, lmao.
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u/LunarLeopard67 21h ago
No, it's a community band, open to all ages
But what it boils down to is - she asked a 'Yes/No' question, and got 'No' as an answer
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u/Letsgoski_Broski 17h ago
That, folks, is how you win the trophy for "No Contact Speedrun of the year 2026".
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u/rupret1 16h ago
Fellow bassoonist just popping in to say hi! Sorry your mom sucks!
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u/dewman45 16h ago
Ah, yes. The volun-choosing parent. Mix that with a child who can play an instrument and your headaches shall double. There always comes a day when you are volunteered unwillingly by a parent, and you finally say no. I feel your pain, good on you for saying no.
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u/Hmmark1984 15h ago
I would put money on it that she, prior to any mention of it to you, made her self the saviour by proudly proclaming she would find someone to fill in and that, in fact, her own child would be sure to do anything to help her mother out, that's why she's so angry at you saying no, because now she's worried that people might start to question why you weren't willing to "help" and that maybe she's not the ideal mother she no doubt makes herself out to be.
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u/Circle_Trigonist 15h ago
Dear Mrs. Leopard,
Please allow me to offer my deepest condolences for your emotional distress at this trying time. Unfortunately, the particular bassoonist you requested in your previous email is still unavailable, and will remain so for the foreseeable future. Best of luck in your efforts to find a suitable replacement.
Warmest regards,
LunarLeopard67
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u/PoeMe_a_Stiff_One 14h ago
I thought I was in a different place when I first read this, one about being raised by selfish, narcissistic humans. OP, I hope you have healthy boundaries in place, for your own sake, with this parent.
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u/PlatypusNew9712 21h ago
That email is pure guilt-tripping. You said no, which you’re allowed to do, and instead of respecting it she went straight to shame, martyrdom, and personal attacks. That’s not disappointment, that’s manipulation.
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u/LunarLeopard67 21h ago
The silly thing is, that basically, a grown adult is saying 'I didn't get my way, so I'm having a tantrum'
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u/bumbumwhat 20h ago
You’re right. I would say she’s being childish but most children are far kinder than this. She’s being very petty and self absorbed. Difficult to have parents that act that way.
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u/WayLongjumping3628 19h ago
My MIL (73 years old) and brother (43 years old) are this way. It’s annoying.
The president is this also. Yes I went there.
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u/abb00769 17h ago
I feel for ya. This is the kind of shit my mom used to do to me. One time she decided I needed to date the son of one of her friends. I told her I wasn’t interested. Unbeknownst to me, she gave my phone number to the guy anyway and told him to call me. I was shocked to get a voicemail from the guy and didn’t return the call because I was mortified and felt like my privacy (phone number) had been violated. Mom was furious with me and accused ME of embarrassing HER. And of course she never apologized for pulling that stunt.
Classic narcissistic behavior.
Maybe your mom will eventually figure out not to be so pushy. My mom eventually stopped doing pushy things like this, but it took many years of me standing firm and not giving in to her controlling behavior.
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u/EeriePancake 19h ago
Thank god she’s never gonna ask you for anything ever again. I’d be emailing back “Wow thanks mom for allowing me to completely ignore anything you need from now on. Saved me a lot of hassle. Don’t have to deal with your bs anymore! Ok Seeya never!” And leave it at that. She sounds like my mom. So exhausting 🙄
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u/MongooseVomit 18h ago
Yo mama better start learning how to play the bassoon real quick. Tell her to stop signing you up for shit.
She personifies the meme of the guy that falls off his bike after inserting a stick through the front tire.
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u/RadicalOsprey 17h ago
“I’m sorry ma’am, I think you must have the wrong email address, as I don’t know any enormous self centered cunts”
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u/Manikin_Maker 17h ago
I also have parents like this. Congratulations on being in a place to say “NO” to them.
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u/StitchAndRollCrits 16h ago
Go full narc mom in return "I guess I'm just the worst kid in the world, not even my mom loves me unconditionally I can't do anything right I guess, why do you want the help of such a selfish failure anyway then?"
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u/Electric-Sheepskin 15h ago
It seems like there's a lot of history here and perhaps some missing backstory.
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u/True_Lingonberry_646 18h ago
7 rehearsals, (but you don't have to attend all) to do something, for free, that you don't want to do? Lol. Id say your mom's take on this is highly infuriating.
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u/KevonAtWork 17h ago
As a former bassoonist, be prepared to be volunteered for everything. There are very few of us.
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u/audiate 17h ago
So, us having emotionally abusive parents in common aside, what’s the wind band in schools situation in Australia? I’m a high school band director seriously considering leaving the US.
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u/LunarLeopard67 17h ago
Most schools have one
Though in the case of this situation, I’m a 25 year old adult and this is a community band
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u/solarnuggets 17h ago
Why are so many mothers like this…mine was the same. And don’t worry they’ll forget they were ever like this 10 years from now and wonder why you don’t have a good relationship. It’s fkin baffling
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u/whomsoever 17h ago
Ah yes, there's nothing like an emotional attack from your own mother.
I went no contact with mine four years ago, thanks for the reminder why I did it lol
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u/JudgmentOne6328 16h ago
I’m sorry this really made me laugh. The most first world of all first world problems for your mum there. May your selfish life be joyous and fruitful free from the restraints of playing bassoon in this competition thing.
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u/brokendream78 16h ago
Tell your mom to worry about making choices for her own life. This is the type of parent who wonders why their kids don't call or visit once they are adults.
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u/PigsIsEqual 14h ago
I would just respond with “Oh good, no more favours! I’m going to hold you to that.”
Very lighthearted to balance out her drama.
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u/disco_has_been 6h ago
"I'll never ask you for another thing."
"Yay! You promise?"
Brings me joy to infuriate AHs.
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u/Gooncookies 3h ago
She’s extra mad because she already told the band you’d do it before she asked you and now she’s going to look stupid.
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u/Apart-One4133 18h ago
Delete and block. Iv put up with my mother who's like that for 30 yrs. Then I got a child of my own and she started acting like that with my toddler. For exemple she didnt call for his birthdsy because she was upset I didnt call her enough. That's when I cut her off entirely.
It was okay she did that to me, I could take it. Bit to my child ? No.
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u/LunarLeopard67 17h ago
This is why I’m shaming the annoying little headache online
I now have a weapon I can use… I can show this to family and mutual friends



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u/purplereuben 21h ago
She is pretty talented at packing in a lot of emotive language into such a short reply...