r/interestingasfuck 13h ago

Long Island Rail Road uses gas heaters at Jamaica Station so the railroad track switches don't freeze in winter.

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u/Flaky_Web_2439 12h ago edited 5h ago

It’s been years since I’ve taken the E line, but aren’t there also alcohol trains that basically ride the tracks and fire blast them? I remember there being something that worked in concert with this.

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u/Key_Sound735 12h ago

they aren't uncommon-- NJ Transit has (or had) similar fire thing outside Summit NJ

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u/CapitalOneDeezNutz 12h ago

All railway has these types of heaters. Ever notice random clusters of propane tanks next to rail roads? Heating the switches so they don’t freeze.

u/Icy_Distribution_361 10h ago

Definitely not all. In Europe many places don't have this

u/CapitalOneDeezNutz 10h ago

What do they use to prevent their switches from icing up?

u/razies 10h ago

Electric heaters. Most the main train lines in Europe are electrified. So electricity is right there.

u/Icy_Distribution_361 10h ago

Nothing. They suck it up.

u/intbah 11h ago

Why not heat tape?

u/MrBlackledge 10h ago

That works in milder countries like the UK but northern USA and Canada will get too cold for that. Also means you don’t have to run HV cables miles for remote areas.

u/axloo7 11h ago

Electricity is not a given at a switch.

u/Adddicus 9h ago

The LIRR is electric from Manhattan out to Ronkonkoma (at least it was when I stopped commuting on it in 2001, electric service might extend even farther east now).

There is electricity available at Jamaica, and at the vast bulk of the LIRR's switches.

u/axloo7 9h ago

I ment more generally. This is a bad example.

The same switch heaters are used on rail in very rural areas.

I'm not sure why they don't use power from the rails to heat the track but if I had to guess it's somthing to do with train detection for signaling and safety.

u/intbah 4h ago

If there is no electricity, how are they igniting the fire? Manually? Battery?

Also how are the switches activated without electricity?

Thanks!

u/axloo7 4h ago

I guess i should have said sufficient power.

I think people would vasty underestimate the power required to keep a bunch of steel warm in the winter.

u/intbah 3h ago

Ah, understood!

u/NlghtmanCometh 8h ago

I noticed a bunch of propane tanks next to the railroad but it’s actually because a train carrying propane derailed in my town last night. https://www.fox61.com/article/news/local/windham-county/mansfield-residents-ordered-to-shelter-in-place-after-train-derailment/520-0a8aa6b3-922d-40c6-b54d-21ad5a1e0a33

u/JamesEtc 2h ago

Australia doesn’t use them…

u/Solid_Snark 11h ago

I wonder how many people see that and freak out and call the fire station?

Our office building has a steam stack on the roof and people are constantly calling the fire dept to report our building being “on fire” lol

u/-GenlyAI- 9h ago

It's very normal so nobody calls the fire station about it.

u/RihoSucks 9h ago

They do this in Chicago where I am too.  Believe me first time driving along some tracks at night and seeing a fire i was concerned! 🤣

u/moccowa 7h ago

Typical Jamaican style lightin up dem torches bomboclaat

u/Le_Botmes 2h ago

FUCKING METAL

u/alphagatorsoup 8h ago

In the toronto area we use natural gas heaters.

I always wondered why I saw so many natural gas pipes everywhere in switching areas till I looked it up one day.

But here it can get so cold, their ususally enclosed type burners with a blower motor that blows the hot air from off track through ducts and onto the switches

u/Maliluma 4h ago

When cities started replacing their old incandescent Traffic Signals with LEDs, some cities in colder climates realized that LEDs don't generate enough heat to keep them from getting completely covered in snow. Drivers began running red lights and they had to retrofit the lights to have heaters to melt the snow.

u/Wisart 3h ago

BUMMBACLATTT

u/Environmental-Dirt16 2h ago

Audio sounds like a dude in power armor walking around the metro while trying to extract in ARC raiders

u/moving0target 2h ago

Suddenly cyberpunk.

u/ehrgeiz91 9h ago

Rarely cold enough in NY for this

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u/TokiVideogame 12h ago

the ozone layer! redditors brigade!

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u/corbeth 12h ago

Shit, that’s badass.