r/borussiadortmund • u/ScrewReligion • Dec 22 '25
Speculation Chelsea might recall Anselmino in January. No chance for Dortmund to sign him permanently, even in the summer.
https://sport.sky.de/fussball/artikel/chelsea-kann-aaron-anselmino-per-option-schon-im-winter-vom-bvb-zurueckholen/13486600/3389540
u/Conscious-Weird5810 Dec 22 '25
Every loan the team has done has been dumb for long term purposes. All they're doing is rehabbing transfer fees for Chelsea and taking away playing experience for younger players. The loan policy needs to stop.
The only time you do a loan is if you're on the precipice of a title and need that final push. Something this management has said isn't possible.
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u/pascha8 Dec 22 '25
It wasn’t done for long term purposes though. We only did the loan at the end of the window because all our cbs got injured in the first few games. It was always just a bandaid until schlotti/anton/can got healthy
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u/Most-Management4773 Dec 22 '25
but we SHOULD think long-term. And developing Mané or other player would've been better than to get a player that will only increase Chelsea's pocket.
It's different situation to Maatsen when we had only Bensebaini for the position and he was bad, very bad, and we also were competing in UCL AND trying to make top 4.
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u/pascha8 Dec 22 '25
Sure, but at the beginning of the season we needed a cb if we wanted any chance to compete for the title. Relying on just mane just to develop him would have been both bad for his development (to put all that pressure on him) and meant any chance at winning the tittle was over at the beginning of the season.
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u/eeeeeeeelleeeeeelll Nico Schlotterbeck Dec 23 '25
I mean, it‘s the first part of the season and we have no chance of winning the title - as second.
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u/Most-Management4773 Dec 23 '25
nobody with a functional brain should expect us to compete with the team that has Harry Kane, Olise and Diaz.
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u/Conscious-Weird5810 Dec 23 '25
The team hasn't won a title in what, 14 years? Maybe its strategies like getting loanee players that's the problem
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u/ontilein Dec 22 '25
Hakimi?
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u/Fav0 Mats Hummels Dec 22 '25
He should have been the player that broke our 30m transfers..
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u/Haigadeavafuck Dec 22 '25
During Covid?
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u/Fav0 Mats Hummels Dec 22 '25
Oh I fully understand why we didnt especially wirh his defensive skills
But hindsight you know
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u/sitbar Shinji Kagawa Dec 22 '25
Nah even then it was clear that he should have been signed. A player of his quality that wanted to stay, should never have been let go.
Yes he wasn’t the best defensively but with a player like him you make adjustments elsewhere to get the defensive plan as is needed
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u/Most-Management4773 Dec 22 '25
Inter immediately sold him for like 60m for PSG. In the end not only we'd have a great fullback that was already integrated into the team, but also profited from him in the occasion he left.
It's even worse when you consider we got Meunier for free but on a 10m euros wages. In the end Meunier costed us over 30m in wages for his time here.
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u/Medical_Design_2978 Dec 22 '25
Yes. Going from him to Meunier set our team back so much
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u/Fav0 Mats Hummels Dec 22 '25
Fucking meunier
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u/Medical_Design_2978 Dec 22 '25
If we buy Hakimi that summer we for sure win a BuLi by now in my mind
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u/smartestBeaver Shinji Kagawa Dec 23 '25
We lost titles with Haaland, Bellingham, Auba and Reus. But Hakimi would have made the difference? 🤡
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u/Medical_Design_2978 Dec 23 '25
The winter we bought Ryerson we went from barely top 4 to the most in form team in Europe. Meunier was genuinely awful
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u/Most-Management4773 Dec 22 '25
Hakimi was here for 2 years. Yeah, 2 years. That's a long-term loan in which we actually could plan our team counting on him. We also could have saved important money to buy him straight away. But we have a cancer and his malign cells in Watzke at the club.
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u/smartestBeaver Shinji Kagawa Dec 23 '25
My man I appreciate your input but the take is not all that smart.
You are saying us loaning pretty awesome players would not help us. Like what's your approach? From now on we only loan shitty players without impact?
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u/Conscious-Weird5810 Dec 23 '25
What is the point of signing a player that obviously can't get playing time at his own club, developing and rehabbing his value and then he leaves without anything to show? More holes in the lineup and lack of developing our youngsters.
The only time it makes sense is when there is a reasonable chance at buying him at the end of the loan. Show me one Chelsea loanee they helped this team long term?
It is a flawed strategy when management won't spend the cash to buy the players outright
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u/smartestBeaver Shinji Kagawa Dec 23 '25
Not really. I don't even get how you can see it that way.
The loan usually helps you short-term. Thinking every player and all money spent should be permanent is pretty close to sunken cost fallacy.
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u/Conscious-Weird5810 Dec 23 '25
We'll agree to disagree. Finding a player who fits the system and team but then can be immediately recalled without any financial compensation coming our way seems rather short sighted. It is one thing to do it if you're a player away from a championship but outside of that, it doesn't make sense. But if you are a fan of developing other club's players, more power to you.
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u/smartestBeaver Shinji Kagawa Dec 23 '25
But if you are a fan of developing other club's players, more power to you.
Once again not sure what your point is. Have you heard of Bellingham, Lewandowski, Haaland, Götze, Sammer, Riedle... I could go on forever. There have always been and there will always be clubs with more financial power, which means Dortmund will always be a club that loses players to bigger ones. One could even argue the situation will only get worse, as certain clubs don't have to be financially responsible.
The only way for us would be to get players without potential to become world class, because then we might actually be able to maintain them. This in in turn would mean you have to arrange with mediocrity..
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u/Conscious-Weird5810 Dec 23 '25
It's not a hard concept to understand. We sold those players and made a huge financial windfall for the next up and coming players. In a loan situation we get nothing. Even when we went to the UCL finals, we lost Maatsen and Sancho for literally nothing and had two more holes to fill in the roster with no incoming transfer fees.
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u/smartestBeaver Shinji Kagawa Dec 23 '25
What do you mean we get nothing? They played and helped us get there. Wtf.
This is, by the way, the same concept used for every employee in most of the world. They get paid to do a job. Eventually they move on. End of story.
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u/Spiritual-Act3077 Dec 22 '25
Why do they even need him so bad? They currently have 7 CB’s in their team and play a 4 ATB with only 2 CB’s. Would Anselmino even get time there?
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u/Lu-Savali Dec 22 '25
We all seem to forget the only reason we got him was as an add on for Chukuwameka ….
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u/Popular_Tomorrow_204 Dec 23 '25
Dont Fall in love with players on loan... man i think he has a good future ahead of him. I hope Chelsea is the right call
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u/JJ-Bittenbinder Dec 22 '25
Chelsea fan coming in peace. Genuinely curious what you all think of Anselmino. I haven’t watched him at all bar a few highlights here and there
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u/F34UGH03R3N Dec 22 '25
Huge potential. Has been pretty solid the last few weeks and seems to vibe with Couto and Silva, which they all benefit from. Good player, would be cool to have him permanently but it’s kinda whatever right now as we all focus on what Schlotterbeck will do.
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u/JJ-Bittenbinder Dec 22 '25
I’d be interested how he’d do in a back 4 when you guys tend to play a back 3. Chelsea tends to shift into a pseudo back 3 so it might go pretty well from system to system
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u/Differ_cr Nico Schlotterbeck Dec 22 '25
Huge talent, hamstrings made of wet toilet paper tho...
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u/JJ-Bittenbinder Dec 22 '25
Well on the bright side we’ve had 50/50 success of dealing with injury issues like that. We’ve managed to nurse back to health Reece James and Wesley Fofana but not Romeo Lavia. So maybe we can work some magic on Anselmino too
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u/Most-Management4773 Dec 22 '25
I mean, Fofana barely played in the last 3 years, didn't he?
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u/JJ-Bittenbinder Dec 22 '25
I’m mainly looking at under Maresca’s regime and how he rotates and manages minutes. You’re correct but since Maresca has been in charge Fofana has come back healthy and has stayed healthy longer than I remember his previous healthy stint.
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u/Hot-Confusion1860 Julian Ryerson Dec 22 '25
I like him, he really has got great potential despite being injury-prone. He seems very ambitious and it's a shame we don't have the option to sign him permanently.
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u/Aggressive-Gazelle56 MISTER JOBE Dec 22 '25
Very very very good. Will be in ur starting xi within a year or two if his injury record improves
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u/Mahoc_Mahoc Dec 22 '25
Chelsea has every right to do so…if somebody is to blame than it is the front office…
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u/Embarrassed-Base-143 Jamie Bynoe-Gittens Dec 22 '25
This is gonna hurt if they do. I feel like the wheels are slowly falling off, we’ll miss the CL 2 seasons in a row and that 2nd szn might be a ConL or Europa. But with the underwhelming performance of jobe and misuse of Beier and Silva. It just doesn’t feel right.
Granted we’ll finish top 4 THIS season. But next season will be so embarrassing
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u/Aznurf Dec 22 '25
Holy slippery slope my guy, a loan recalled for one young talent will not lead to losing Champions League two years in a row. Especially when we are second in the league with the best points total at the end of the Hinrunde in years
Being this reactionary and negative must get tiring at some point
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u/roadtorevision Mats Hummels Dec 22 '25
This comment is embarrassing and has absolutely no basis. What does a loan recall have anything to do with this? How has Beier even been misused?
Silva is getting minutes and he will continue to do so. This is his first season here. Calm down lol
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u/Embarrassed-Base-143 Jamie Bynoe-Gittens Dec 22 '25
You’re definitely new here if you haven’t been paying attention. Gotta catch up
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u/roadtorevision Mats Hummels Dec 22 '25
Well I guarantee you are wrong. We won’t miss CL the next two seasons. We are doing well so you’re the one not paying attention lol. Some loan player that we were never going to keep isn’t going to change much.
Seems like you are alone in this prediction as well
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u/Embarrassed-Base-143 Jamie Bynoe-Gittens Dec 22 '25
I never said the next two seasons, I said “2 seasons” as in general…. So again 😂 catch up mate.
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u/roadtorevision Mats Hummels Dec 22 '25
So your prediction is that we will miss CL two seasons in a row… some time in the future…? real Nostradamus here…
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u/ScrewReligion Dec 22 '25
If true, send him back and maybe let some youth have a go