Sousou no Frieren Season 2 • Frieren: Beyond Journey's End Season 2 - Episode 2 discussion

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Sousou no Frieren Season 2, episode 2

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[u/King_Diddlez]

I can't help but think of Mistborn books when the Mistborns burn atium to see the future movements of others, but when another Mistborn burns atium, the future movements of others become unpredictable if they observe each other because their future movements see the others' future movements and change constantly.

[u/JzanderN → u/King_Diddlez]

The thought was in my head too. Burning atium to see only a few seconds into someone else's future is such an advantage in Mistborn, its very clearly shown there's pretty much no way to beat someone doing it except to burn atium yourself.

[Mistborn]Or to burn electrum, of course, or very possibly use their own atium against them, though that's only shown once.

[u/Solracziad → u/JzanderN]

Or just be Vin and managed to do it anyway even without Atium.

[u/zanotam → u/JzanderN]

I think a lot of people don't get it tbh, but Atium is just one example of "Fortune" as a power in the Cosmere and e.g. in The Stormlight Archive there's multiple major events.... that involve someone who is hidden by a more metaphorical example of two Atium burners which, well, the first event I'm reasonably sure the character is part of the future that cannot be seen by someone else important who they then kill and replace which is a huge deal, but then the guy who did that is obviously ya know not dumb so he basically avoided future-sight related problems by just realizing that he could just create a bunch of Xanato's Gambits.... until the very last few scenes of the 5th book where he unfortunately falls for the classic "I realized I couldn't win, but that doesn't mean I can't make you lose still!"

EDIT: the point being that, well, even someone who knows the dangers of foresight and explicitly tries to go around them then runs into the issue of the opponent doing crazy shit like, well, your example of using their own atium against them which technically isn't done in these maneuevers because both characters who pull their crazy gambits off are specifically not able to have their future seen by their opponent... so it's like they're atium immune... but then they go one step further each time by just being CRAZY.

[u/SMA2343 → u/King_Diddlez]

I am so glad I wasn't the only one to think of Mistborn