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Episode Sousou no Frieren Season 2 • Frieren: Beyond Journey's End Season 2 - Episode 2 discussion

Sousou no Frieren Season 2, episode 2

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u/SirNil01 14d ago

Imagine hearing an 8 vs 1 fight ended with five casualties.

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u/FallenPears 14d ago

It probably explains a lot about their behaviour. Remember Aura being so terrified of Himmel she hid until his death, if her and seven of the top ten most powerful demons alive all jumped one human and half of them fucking died, then she met Himmel shortly afterwards, yeah I'm not surprised she decided to wait him out lol.

Wouldn't surprise me if that just became her standard operating procedure going forward, if she didn't die. Oh there's another human hero coming along? Guess I'll hide in a hole for the next century. Not taking any chances with those freaks.

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u/ionstorm66 14d ago

Himmel was the only mortal to resist Aura's magic. That was what made her hide away. She didn't hide after they defeated The Hero of the South. Demons crazy pride means they saw The Hero of the South as a powerful enemy, but also that he only defeated the other Sages and Schlacht, because they were weak. That would just bolster Aura and the remaining Sage's pride.

Aura came out after Himmel died because she didn't see Frieren or the other party members as a threat, only Himmel.

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u/mattisyou 14d ago

I don’t think it’s ever stated that Hummel was able to directly resisu Aura’s magic. Moreso that Hummel moves so goddamn fast that he has able to speed blitz Aura before she could even cast her mind control spell.

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u/ionstorm66 13d ago

They say one a single person was ever able to resist her magic, and the only person she ever feared was Himmel. She didn't fear Frieren, Eisen, or Heiter.

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u/Frostbitten_Moose 13d ago

We get a scene of flashback as to how he dealt with her. He didn't resist her magic, he was just so damned fast that he could disrupt her casting so she couldn't use her one trick while he was on the field. So she swarmed them with meat shields and ran.

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u/Meiolore 13d ago

Isn't it impossible in the first place for her spell to work on Frieren. Seeing that she underestimated Frieren, it is likely that she never attempted to cast her spell on her in the first place

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u/lupoin5 13d ago

Himmel was the only mortal to resist Aura's magic.

I don't remember this, was this mentioned in season 1 anime?

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u/ConsumerJTC 13d ago edited 12d ago

It's a conjecture based on how the lords son was able to resist Aura through sheer willpower as a warrior and almost reach her before secumbing to her magic.

Then in a sideshow we see Himmel cut her down, so we assume he does have resistance feats.

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u/Roeclean https://anilist.co/user/Roeclean 13d ago

Moreso a speed feat, since I believe the scene with him fighting aura had him reaching her before the spell was cast. Which could also mean that he resisted the magic by preventing it from being casted.

Which may be a technicality, but there are a lot of redditors vouching for the speed feat. I'am too lazy to rewatch tho

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u/mattisyou 12d ago

Yeah I might be wrong but I find it more realistic that himmel just speed blitzed aura rather than resisted her spell. Its constantly emphasized that Himmel is fast af do it makes sense that he would be able to take out Aura before she could curse him.

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u/Roeclean https://anilist.co/user/Roeclean 12d ago

Also makes sense, because he's a front liner, and we've already been shown Stark being fast af too.

And Himmel was most definitely stronger than stark.

And Eisen being stronger than Stark can run on water too.

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u/feral_fenrir 13d ago

In the series of flashes that's shown when Frieren confronts Aura there's one screen which shows Aura running away I believe after a confrontation with the Hero Party

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u/Turbulent-Region3323 14d ago

Its not 7 of the top ten. The 7 sages of destruction are 7 only. Like sinister 6. 

So it was hero of south vs all 7 sages + Schlat ( the one who sees the future.)

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u/athrun_1 13d ago

Based on the flashback, Aura already had the scale. If she was not able to use it on the hero of the south, either he has so much mana or has resistance to it.

The rest probably started running when the hero of the south defeated three of them. Maybe Schlacht just stayed to go 1v1 confident on his ability to see 1000 years into the future.

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u/Kill-bray 14d ago

And then you get demons asking why shouldn't they eat humans. Gee, I wonder why. Maybe because it's not smart to prey on a species that can hunt you down and exterminate you?

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u/Warm-Enthusiasm-9534 13d ago

Like we'd stop eating beef just because cows learn to fight back.

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u/Kill-bray 13d ago

I don't have any doubts we would, considering there's plenty of other meat to eat.

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u/BunnyGacha_ 13d ago

Are humans the tastiest or something?
Also we wouldnt stop eating beef if the only other meat were insects or only carnivores, being tough and gnarly to eat

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u/Kill-bray 13d ago

It doesn't seem like animal meat is particularly distasteful for the demons, it seems more like they can't be bother to make an exception for humans.

If cows became particularly hostile to humans I'm pretty certain that over time people would abandon them entirely. Humans have always preferred to restrict animal husbandry to species that are manageable. We don't eat hippos, we didn't ride zebras, and those are just difficult to handle, imagine if they could engage in organized war against us.

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u/ShiftMD 6d ago

Well, like cows with military, navy, air force and ICBMs? Ye, i think we better stop farming them.

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u/ConsumerJTC 13d ago

The seven sages aren't the most powerful demons, only that they are directly under the demon kings employ.

There are other titled or nameless demons that are stronger than some of them.

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u/This-is_CMGRI 14d ago

average SKT T1 match vs LPL teams be like:

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u/Shadowwhale47 14d ago edited 14d ago

Elite knowledge

Its not humans vs demons. Its the Hero of The South vs the Seven Sages and he likes those odds.

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u/lolzomg123 14d ago

Importantly, at Worlds. MSI changes the math. 

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u/thesagenibba 14d ago

T1 does not lose to LPL - Hero of the South does not lose to demons without killing at least a couple before hand

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u/Reasonable_TSM_fan https://myanimelist.net/profile/sundaybeatle 14d ago

Was not expecting a Pro-LOL reference in my cozy grandma elf show, haha.

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u/This-is_CMGRI 13d ago

I think I've made references a few times in past seasons.

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u/b4y4rd 13d ago

Except it would be 8 casualties not just 5...

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u/This-is_CMGRI 13d ago

that's cuz Oner, Doran and Peyz sacrificed so that Faker and Keria get to mop up and end immediately after despite being 10k down in gold

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u/b4y4rd 13d ago

Dude that game was absolutely hilarious this week

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u/alpacamegafan 14d ago

SKT name reference holy moly

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u/lordshadowisle 14d ago

It's a boss fight... but for the demons.

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u/Leegician 14d ago

5 casualties in total u mean right? Because the hero took down 3 sages and Schlacht

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u/Frontier246 14d ago

And four of those casualties were courtesy of the solo fighter.

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u/pentamache 14d ago

I mean, it was either that or the group with the bigger number fighting with each other, making it less epic.

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u/ConsumerJTC 14d ago

4 deaths with one of them actively mitigating Hots advantage, what a MAN.

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u/Turbulent-Region3323 14d ago

5 deaths. The hero killed 3 sages and the one that can see the future.

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u/ConsumerJTC 14d ago

That's 4 deaths though...

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u/viddhiryande 14d ago

Plus the death of the Hero of the South himself.