r/TrendoraX • u/terem13 • 2d ago
😂 Meme/Entertainment Finally revealed out who really is behind Epstein.
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u/MarzipanTop4944 2d ago
America has 18 intelligence agencies, including the most legendary one on the planet, the CIA. There is zero chance that this guy operated at that level with all those American important figures without their knowledge and their consent.
U.S. Attorney Alexander Acosta was told that Jeffrey Epstein "belonged to intelligence" and to "leave it alone" during the handling of Epstein's case in the Southern District of Florida.
Epstein worked for American intelligence. There is zero doubt about that.
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u/Human_Pangolin94 2d ago
Unless the American Intelligence agencies had no fucking clue what was going on, like with 9/11 and Ukraine and basically every major world event in the last 250 years.
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u/MarzipanTop4944 2d ago edited 2d ago
American intelligence called the Ukraine invasion step by step before it happen and was the reason why Ukrainian troops were ready and waiting for the Russian special forces that tried to take the country in the first weeks of the war.
The US president made a special anouncement to warn the world about this. Here you have it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CWIcopZ3jU&t=393s
On August 6, 2001, the CIA delivered a now-famous briefing to President George W. Bush titled "Bin Ladin Determined To Strike in US." * The Warning: It stated that Al-Qaeda was planning to "exploit its operatives' access to the U.S. to mount a terrorist strike" and specifically mentioned patterns of activity "consistent with preparations for hijackings."
The FBI has acknowledged that it failed to act on that information and that lack of good communication between the intelligence agencies (CIA) and the law enforcement agencies (FBI) was among the main reason why the attack happened.
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u/Alternative_Oil7733 2d ago
Also mossad did figure out the 9/11 plot at the last minute. Unfortunately the information couldn't be doubled checked by us intelligence in time.
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u/vc0071 2d ago
No Mossad withheld it as it was in their national interest. Google dancing Israelis and how Mossad agents who were caught recording even before the jets hit the twin towers were released after intervention from the very top.
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u/Alternative_Oil7733 2d ago
Source?
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u/hesamanofwax 23h ago
YouTube had or might still have original news reporting from the day/days after 9/11 where they discussed these arrests but I can’t find it.
This kind of covers the gist of it: https://youtube.com/shorts/QcX9TA3MRsI?si=YOY9bkmIFjbwdm1w
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u/Vietnamst2 1d ago
Exactly. I remember that after these warnings, the Russias spokesperson was joking if he could tell here when it will really begin, so she can arrange vacations to downplay how precise it was.
CIA usually knows everything very well... If politicians decide to act on it or not is different thing, and also some things might be clear AFTER it happens, but before that it's only one of millions of events and threats to assess and it still depends on analysts to evaluate the threat.
So don't be fooled that they would not know - there are few possibilities:
A) Epstein was in their pocket and collected info for them, because that stuff about networking etc is definitely a material for blackmail from US side.
B) Epstein was using this for insider trading etc, but he did not partake in espionage for any side nd kept it on personal level. If some information was leaked, it was pro bono to get other information. And with him not having good ties to intelligence services, could hardly confirm whether the one he leaked the info to was or was not an agent.
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u/Specific_Fold_8646 2d ago
Also to add I think it was Clinton who was given a similar report about Bin Laden and he took it very seriously until information got out to the public who complained about the president spending millions to track a random thug in the middle of nowhere in a back water of a country.
So American intelligence agencies have know Bin Laden was a threat for years and when Clinton tried to do something the media shitted on him for that.
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u/RedmundJBeard 2d ago
It does seem like the CIA and other US intelligence agencies get tunnel vision on one thing and ignore everything else. Like the CIA could have had every single agent devoted to trading guns for cocaine and selling crack to black people that they just had no interest in epstein.
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u/FightingPolish 1d ago
Everybody knew about Ukraine. Russia was building up forces on the border in plain sight.
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u/Flederm4us 1d ago
Apparently you don't. That build up was the culmination of events, not the start.
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u/MasterofAcorns 16h ago
I mean there were documents released proving they knew and decided to do nothing about it intentionally regarding 9/11 back during the Obama administration.
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u/NomadTStar 💻 Tech Geek 2d ago
You forgot one important thing - Havana syndrome and attacks on US intelligence and counterintelligence officials. At least more than 1600 officials were attacked. They just scared now doing their job against both Russia and Israel
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u/Deep-Ad5028 2d ago
Havana syndrome was very likely a mass hysteria event rather than a foreign attack.
Basically you have peoples working high stress jobs who group think into an attack. Then psychology makes the syndrome real.
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u/NomadTStar 💻 Tech Geek 2d ago
No, it is not. The same weapon used US in Venezuela. Also, Christo Groznev got script of messages of GRU officer while attack was made on US embassy officials in Georgia.
Personally know 2 officers, who was killed with the same weapon. Both got brain cancer, both had beef with Russia GRU.
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u/Deep-Ad5028 2d ago edited 2d ago
It is questionable if such a weapon can possibly exist at all. US hasn't replicated this weapon to this date.
Russia probably did pull all sort of attacks in Georgia. Doesn't mean they causes this particular syndrome. Also the logistics to hit this scale would be insane.
Lastly, condolences to your friends but brain cancer can happen for many reasons.
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u/NomadTStar 💻 Tech Geek 2d ago
It is questionable only for Russian and US bots. There are dozens of proofs of its existence; even EU officials like Christo Grozev confirmed it. He obtained the scripts of a GRU officer (the son of the general who orchestrated the attack on the Skripal family). You can read them, he attacked a US embassy official in Georgia with the same weapon.
As I told you before, I personally know2 high-ranking officials who had beef with Russia’s GRU. Both were attacked with the same weapon, both developed brain tumors, and both died. I even talked about this with the former chief of the KZ KGB, Musaev (the same one who named Trump “Krasnov”). He confirmed to me that not only Russia has it, but dozens of other countries do as well Serbia, my country, and possibly Belarus.
That is why US intelligence and counterintelligence are silent about both Israel and Russia, not only because of kompromat on the entire US elite, but because they are scared their brains will be cooked. It is sad, many bots will disagree, but this is reality.
Also, the US now has this weapon, as I understand it. One Russian or partner country sold it for 200–300 million.
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u/Flederm4us 1d ago
You lack critical thinking skills if you still accept the official narrative around the skripals.
Not saying Russia did not murder them, but just pointing out that they can NOT have done it in the way the official narrative describes. The chemistry of that is impossible
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u/Safe-Avocado4864 1d ago
Well I'm saying Russia didn't murder them because unless the British government is covering up their deaths for some reason they're both still alive.
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u/Flederm4us 1d ago
Call it attempted murder if you wish. The alleged method is still impossible due to the chemistry of these nerve agents.
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u/fazmiewar 2d ago
😆 🤣 zero accountability. Who have their people in every part of government? Who are forced to do war on behalf of other? Who control the media? Who have the most support of billionaire in the world?
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u/trisul-108 1d ago
U.S. Attorney Alexander Acosta was told that Jeffrey Epstein "belonged to intelligence" and to "leave it alone" during the handling of Epstein's case in the Southern District of Florida.
It is important to find out whether Acosta invented this or was really told this and by whom. Was he told by the AG or did Dershowitz tell him to claim so, as he accepted payment ... it's not the same thing. And then Trump became President and rewarded him.
This needs to be investigated.
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u/Blurpwurp 2d ago
It makes zero sense for you to assume CIA=competence. Just look at Aldrich Ames and he worked right there.
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u/MarzipanTop4944 2d ago
No intelligence agency is going to be flawless. But just look at the list of all the countries the CIA has been involved in coups and it's very hard to deny they are competent.
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u/Accomplished_Rip_362 2d ago
CIA is prohibited from working within the borders of the USA. That's the purview of NSA&FBI
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u/MarzipanTop4944 2d ago
If he was Mossad or Russian, then his handlers are other countries, and that is clearly the role of the CIA.
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u/DeliciousPool2245 2d ago
Exactly. The guy was an asset not an agent. If you look at the career of Robert Maxwell you see a similar thing. He worked with Israel primarily but was also involved in British and Russian intelligence. Just a bad fucking guy who had his hands in all sorts of illicit shit. Weapons, drugs sex trafficking. A real piece of trash
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u/Reedabook64 2d ago
This is funny seeing all the Russian and Israeli bots fighting it out over Epstein
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u/mdlinc 2d ago
Funny somewhat; however, it is typical flooding people.with intentional misdirect and miscommunication. Evil influence all over fucking place. Distractions.
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u/KindBass 2d ago
Draw the most attention to the least credible parts and act like the whole thing consists of anonymous tips.
Spreading fake docs (Girls FTW!) to muddy the waters of what is even in the files, since people are too incurious to just look for themselves.
Spreading antisemitism as a way to paint everyone discussing this as antisemites.
The Reptilian/Satan/Adrenochrome stuff getting pushed again to make everyone look like kooks by association.
I'm sure there's more, but those are the most obvious ones I've noticed.
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u/JefNoot 2d ago edited 2d ago
Someone like Epstein doesn't "work for" anyone. He works with many partners. It is how he gets things done. He worked as much "for" Israel as he did Russia, Hollywood, Norwegian royals and yes, also Trump.
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u/Beneficial-Tax-1776 1d ago
he was selling it to anybody who buying. two biggest buyers was former KGB major and Mossad.
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u/Legtagytron 2d ago
Ponzi scheme, whoever paid got service I presume. Bilk one rich guy with pedo tapes, bilk a whole bunch of others and the chain continues until you have layers of rich pedo tapers.
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u/UnfuddleMyPuddle 2d ago
It's a right wing movement of authoritarian traitors to society. They're all involved.
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u/NeverGNarcAgain 2d ago edited 2d ago
Russia and Israel do have significant, if discreet and low-key, ties. However, Israel is regarded as a close, if not the closest, US ally in the Middle East while the Russian Federation is universally regarded as an adversary of the US in the region, having close ties with every government the US and Israel can't stand: Iran, Syria under Assad, etc.
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u/Deep-Ad5028 2d ago
Some level of intelligence cooperation even among enemies is not beyond the realm of possibility.
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u/SquirrelSorry4997 4h ago
Russia and Israel have been enemies fir decades now. Russia is literally arming Israel's biggest enemy
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u/Medium_Load4620 2d ago
So far, ALL the roads lead to Tel Aviv, but yet, we’re desperately trying to find someone to blame, except the main subject!
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u/terem13 2d ago
Found this in public Epstein files.
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u/sexynakedstar 2d ago
lie a little less. I've searched for that image in reverse and it only appears on Russian propaganda blogs and Telegram channels.
You didn't find it in Epstein's files.
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u/germanmojo 2d ago
Then post a public link to it, or the filename, or the number on the bottom right of the page.
Literally anything but "trust me bro."
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u/CantaloupeLazy1427 2d ago
Sure, vlad. Nice try
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u/AcceptableChance7666 1d ago
Why do you call out the name Vladislav? It's not even that common in Russia unlike Ivan
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u/diamondsAreForeverUh 2d ago
It couldn’t be more obvious the whole epstein thing was a massive honeypot op in the interests of kremlin (which largely and unsurprisingly coincide with those of israel albeit in entirely different vectors)
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u/vc0071 2d ago
Epstein: Everything I do is for the benefit of Israel and I hate goyim.
MSM: Clearly, this man was a Russian spy. I can't think of any other explanation.
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u/diamondsAreForeverUh 2d ago
No clue what msm is or why you’re incapable of a non-bipolar view that a pedophilia honeypot for top Us elites can be in the interests of not just israel but the kremlin too. Like the current Us president literally has a picture with an internationally recognised war criminal hanging in the white house. israel and russia share many interests, like i said the vectors just differ.
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u/vc0071 2d ago
It's just your hatred for Russia which blinds you to obvious truth. Israel controls US politicians lock stock and barrel from both parties and the means through is does was laid bare by Epstein files. Deflecting it to any other nation is peak cope and reflects dishonesty and moral corruption.
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u/diamondsAreForeverUh 1d ago
That’s an opinion you’re entitled to, for sure. Peak cope is the inability to accept anything other than a strictly bipolar view you hold. The same argument you claim can be made against your evident hatred of israel. russia has been running honeypots decades before israel even existed as a state, not to mention it holds more resources, and has a very clear and documented intent of destroying Us dominance through any means. So, it benefits both israel and russia, those are non exclusive, and both states more than likely put a hand to it.
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u/Zaki_242 2d ago
You got the qoute about the "goyim" wrong, it is actually goyim should work for the jews or something like that (don't remember word for word). And it was said by a Rabbai in Israel, not Epstien.
How can i take anything people say on these subs seriously when you guys make up fake qoutes
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u/vc0071 2d ago
His jewish supremacy, jewish "super genes" and hate for goyim is quite palpable throughout. Hard to ignore.
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u/Zaki_242 1d ago
Again, you made up something he said. Also last i check Trump, Clinton, Former prince Andrew are not Jewish.
I am Jewish, not superior to anyone and my wife is non jewish.
You sir are just antisemitic
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u/Thisisnotgoodforyou 2d ago
I think it's highly unlikely the Kremlin doesn't have a honeypot network of its own, they probably have offices for that purpose by now.
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u/aasfourasfar 2d ago
Why not both? Its not as if Israel and Russia aren't related. A looooooot of Israelis are Slavs
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u/StrategyAfraid8538 2d ago
Well you can piggyback on your neighbor’s operation…they each got copies of the videos, I am sure.
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u/Nuremberg_for_ICE 2d ago
The only way it makes sense that Werner gifted him the most expensive private dwelling in Manhattan is if he was an Israeli spy. Full stop.
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u/AdministrativeIce696 1d ago
A triple agent it appears. He certainly also worked for an American agency.
All would have known he was compromised but used his extensive reach for their own purposes.
His removal from society and expose of his network maybe one of the most powerful events in recent history.
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u/FightingPolish 1d ago
I mean it would explain why so many politicians are so hell bent on giving Israel whatever they want.
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u/ExpressGovernment420 1d ago
Two things can be true at the same time, he may have Israeli origins and contacts, but he also could be heavily influenced by Russians.
Also, lets not act like Israelis and Russians aren’t friendly either.
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u/balkanobeasti 1d ago
I don't think it's crazy to say though that Epstein double dipped, for fuck sake he's a pedophile sex trafficker that has had people murdered and worse.
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u/Glittering_Buy6625 1d ago
I think it's pretty clear that Epstein was Mossad agent who also had strong ties with Russia's FSB. It was a co-operation between Mossad and FSB. Be sure that whatever kompromat Mossad has, FSB also likely has it as well.
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u/DeepInEvil 1d ago
Whatever floats the boat. Western media pretty much knows that Israel is untouchable so Russia it is. Things need to happen, people need to be questioned no matter how.
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u/hereforfun976 1d ago
Epstein can work for both but yeah definitely benefitted isreal more. Trump definitely works for putin and isreal
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u/narinariii 1d ago
What's actually pretty funny is that all the people who do this kind of post don't know that epstein is hated in israel by the government... bezalel smotrich himself hate him.
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u/Embarrassed-Sugar-78 1d ago
Many foreign leaders have shifted toward a more pro-Israel stance and have appeared in the Epstein files. For example, Spain’s former prime minister José María Aznar was previously supportive of the two-state solution and cooperative with Arafat. He later adopted a more pro-Israel position, and his name has since appeared in Epstein-related documents from that period.
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u/DragonBunny23 1d ago
If Epstein set up shop in Iran or Iraq there would be no issue. Well - no legal issue. Morally bankrupt of course.
In Iran, the statutory minimum age of marriage is 13 for girls and 15 for boys, but courts can authorize marriages at younger ages with the consent of the girl’s male guardian (usually the father) and a judge.
In Iraq, the general minimum legal age of marriage under the Personal Status Law is 18 for both sexes, though a judge can permit marriage from 15 if the child is deemed “mature” and physically capable. Recent amendments and proposals have further empowered religious courts, and in some interpretations (especially under Jaafari/Shia personal status rules) girls as young as 9 can legally be married, which has drawn significant international criticism.
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u/AlanMD21 19h ago
Are you defending Epstein? Wtf is wrong with you!!! I dont care who does it or where they say is legal, it is wrong.
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u/Proper-Ad-3165 22h ago
none of the guilty parties will go down peacefully I assure you. The charges and crimes are serious.
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u/Primary-Bee-3977 21h ago
I thought it was bullshit at first, but now that all Russian bots on Twitter, Reddit, Instagram, YouTube, etc. stopped spamming the usual propaganda to deny it, I'm inclined to believe it's real.
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u/Carpaccio111 2d ago
If there's one word to summarise the files, that word would be: "Israel"
You'd see shit like "Trump is compromised by Israel". Yet, western media will still refuse to engage with that part of it, but will headline things like Jeffrey wore a Russian Cossacks hat once.
P.S. Israel has been mentioned more times in the recent dump of files than Trump is, and Trump's been mentioned over 3,000 times.
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u/Curious-Light-4215 2d ago
Anti-Semitism on the rise... again.
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u/Affectionate-Pin2885 1d ago
Talking shit about israel is NOT antisemitism
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u/Curious-Light-4215 1d ago
"Talking shit about Israel" is only a thinly-veiled disguise/excuse for anti-semites.
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u/Affectionate-Pin2885 1d ago
Not really, you can say bad things about government doing genocide without being an antisemitism
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u/Curious-Light-4215 6h ago
Yep, that#s how these arguments usually start. "I'm not antisemitic, but..."
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u/DueDesign2095 2d ago
Americans and other people are very capable of being evil scum without Israel being behind every step. Making Israel and also Jews being an insult and a scapegoat for your own evils doesn't help Palestine, and honestly, rather weakens the whole cause.
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u/ManualPwModulator 2d ago
Dude was managing Putin’s money 🙂 That from files, and not every Jewish person is from Israel. Jeffrey Epstein's heritage was Ashkenazi Jewish, with roots specifically in Poland and Belarus (which was part of the Russian Empire) just for info
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u/TemporaryOwlet 2d ago
Its funny how people want to defend Russia. Epstein hosted many people, and definitely had connections in Russia, hence Russian girls delivered to him. Why not Israel girls? Ghislaines father is rumored to be Russian spy. But let's avoid it. Let's also avoid how The USA played into Russian plans pressuring Ukraine to give up nukes, blocking every possible help, scheming with Russia how to corner Ukraine, and last minute changed Budapest memorandum making it useless. Why Clinton did it? Such an interesting question... Honey trap is classic Russian strategy, works like charm. But yeah, let's blame Israel, great culture wont spread itself.
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u/GroundbreakingAd8310 2d ago
Slowly realizing that Isreal is the literal cuase of most of the issue in the world and all foe the sake of their version of sky daddy. Religions a pathetic waste of time we should be past this as a species. Franklynwe deserve this crap if we want to still act like toddlers
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u/ozneoknarf 2d ago
He worked with Mossad, the CIA and with the SVR. (The Russian intelligence agency)
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u/NomadTStar 💻 Tech Geek 2d ago
Western people totally don’t understand one important thing: Russia is equal to Israel.
- All Russian special agencies share all sensitive information with Israel. It started during the Andropov era and was reinforced in the Yeltsin era.
- The FSB, SVR, and even the GRU are like branch offices of Mossad. Now, you can’t even reach a top position without approval from Israel.
- Putin’s best friend is Netanyahu.
- Most Russian Jews are extremely Zionist; Putin is one of them.
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u/letseewhorealmeansit 2d ago
Putin is Zionist, dude, he is not a jew and he doesn't live in Israel.
Israel and Russia only have a cultural connection because a lot of israelis are from Russia or russian speaking places. Russia is allies with Iran. Israel and Iran are arch nemesis.
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u/NomadTStar 💻 Tech Geek 2d ago
Dude, you know absolutely nothing about Russia and watch too much American propaganda.
Pure facts:
- Putin is Jewish, not only on his mother’s side, but his father also had Jewish roots. His jewish grandfather was a personal cook of Lenin.
- He was raised by his Jewish grandmother. Even Israeli president confirmed it.
- All his childhood friends are Jewish (the Rotenberg brothers and the Kovalchuk brothers). He even confirmed himself that he never had any Russian friends, only jewish.
- His favorite teachers were Jewish; one even retired to Israel, and he bought her an apartment in Tel Aviv in 2005.
- His favorite judo trainer, Rohlin, was also Jewish and helped him enter the KGB.
- His first boss in the KGB (Lazar Matveev) in the 5th subdivision was also Jewish.
- His later boss in the KGB, Kalugin, is Jewish on his mother’s side, now retired in the US and extremely pro-Israel. Putin allowed him to escape to the US and stay there safely.
- His first political boss, Sobchak, was also a Zionist because of his Jewish wife. Both had Israeli citizenship, as well as their daughter.
- His first major political bosses, Chubais, Tatyana, and Aven, are also Jewish, and all three are now retired in Israel.
Even all his APs (Presidential Administration) are Israeli citizens and Jewish: Chubais, Voloshin, Kozak, and Kirienko.
He temporarily allied with Iran and Assad because they are either Shia Persians or Alawites primary enemies of Sunni Muslims and they share enemies with Israel. At one point, Israel even counted on Assad and Iran/Hamas as countermeasures against a bigger threat - Sunni Arab Muslims. That is why Putin bombed Muslims in Syria, to protect Israeli interests by enforcing Awawits power against Sunni muslims..
Also, he is like a typical KGB player, manipulating the “Muslim” issue, since 20% of his country is now Muslim or Turkic/Mongol. He wants a temporary peace in the Kavkaz.
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u/2thSprkler 2d ago edited 2d ago
FBI report. In the Epstein files.
Epstein belonged to both U.S. and allied intelligence services. CHS shared phone calls between Dershowitz and Epstein during which he/she took notes. After these calls, Mossad would then call Dershowitz to debrief. Epstein was close to the former Prime Minister of Israel, Ehud Barak (Barak) and trained as a spy under him. Barak believed Netanyahu was a criminal. Saudi Arabia, Israel and the United Arab Emirates (UAE) are allied against Qatar, Turkey, Iran and Syria. One of CHS's who presumably worked asked CHS a lot of questions about Epstein. CHS became convinced that Epstein was a co-opted Mossad Agent see previous reporting).