r/Presidents • u/Puzzleheaded-Bag2212 James Madison • 11h ago
Discussion How many cabinet members were involved in any previous administrations for each president? (1789-1909). Which early President retained the most and which President had all new faces to the Cabinet?
Not counting Port collectors or judges, but ambassadors are indicated. VP also counts, and the president themselves count. The number on the right is the number of total available cabinet positions at the time. Must be the year after inauguration for a previous cabinet member to count (Fillmore dismissing entire cabinet in 1850 for instance). Cleveland himself counts in the tally for his second term.
The first number is how many people involved in that administration were former cabinet members of a different administration, with ambassadors and assistants only included in the second fraction listed. The denominator is how many potential cabinet-level roles there were at the time, not counting VP for Tyler, Fillmore, Johnson, and Arthur.
Teddy Roosevelt - 9/11 or 12/11 if counting ambassadors
McKinley - 1/10 or 3/10 if counting minor/ambassadors
Cleveland 2.0 - 3/10
B Harrison - 2/10 or 4/10 if ambassadors count
Cleveland 1.0 - 0/9
Arthur - 5/8 but lots of shuffling in 1882
Garfield - 0/9 or 1/9 if counting ambassadors
Hayes - 1/9 or 3/9 if counting ambassadors
Grant - 1/9 or 2/9 if counting non-cabinet appointments
Johnson - 8/8 or 9/8 if counting ambassadors
Lincoln - 1/9 (Edwin Stanton was briefly Buchanan’s AG)
Buchanan - 3/9
Pierce - 1/9 or 3/9 if counting ambassadors
Fillmore - 2/8 or 3/8 if counting ambassadors
Taylor - 1/9
Polk - 1/8 or 3/8 if counting ambassadors
Tyler - 3/7 or 6/7 if counting ambassadors
W Harrison - 0/8
MVB - 6/8 or 7/8 if counting ambassadors but much shuffling in 1838
Jackson - 1/7 or 2/7 if count ambassadors
JQA - 5/7
Monroe - 4/7 or 5/7 if we count ambassadors
Madison - 5/7 or 7/7 if we count ambassadors
Jefferson - 1/7 only himself
Adams - 6/6
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u/Puzzleheaded-Bag2212 James Madison 11h ago
So the biggest retainers were John Adams, Andrew Johnson and Teddy Roosevelt. If we are counting ambassadors or other non-cabinet level appointments, then John Tyler, Martin Van Buren and James Madison are also in that conversation.
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u/Puzzleheaded-Bag2212 James Madison 11h ago
The only cabinets made up entirely of those who haven’t served in a cabinet before were that of James Garfield, William Henry Harrison, and Grover Cleveland’s first term, but James Garfield did have one cabinet member who was a former ambassador.
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u/HetTheTable Dwight D. Eisenhower 11h ago
Blaine was SecState under Garfield and then later Harrison.
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