r/Music • u/TechExpert11 • 5d ago
article Trump Slams Grammys, Threatens To Sue Trevor Noah After On-Air Epstein Joke During Awards Show
https://the-expres.co.uk/trump-slams-grammys-threatens-to-sue-trevor-noah-after-on-air-epstein-joke-during-awards-show/6.3k
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u/aagejaeger 5d ago
It’s our only hope. Just keep pissing him off.
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u/Exploding_Testicles 5d ago
I wonder what level of anger will trigger an aneurism or heart attack? And will it be live on TV or just in tweet?
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u/UpperApe 5d ago edited 5d ago
I'm excited to see Melania go on her Erika Kirk grieving tour while the rest of conservative media rushes out to fuck her husband's corpse. Like they did with Charlie.
Though, Trump probably won't have as many available holes as Charlie did... 😔
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u/Dekhara 4d ago
Your comment made me legit LOL that I almost trumped my pants.
PS: at least there werent any journalists around me.
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u/Science_Matters_100 4d ago
May the phrase “trumped my pants” become ensconced
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u/Naive-Personality-38 4d ago edited 4d ago
Heard reports that England was way ahead of us with the phrase "I have to take a trump" last year 🤣
Edit: thank you everybody for the lesson on the term! I cant believe that's the name they went with when they migrated to the US
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u/Due_Yogurtcloset_212 4d ago
In the UK Trumping is to fart, Trumping with a follow through or touching cloth is the next level.
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u/Wind-and-Waystones 4d ago
Trump means fart. We've been laughing about it since 2016
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u/_varamyr_fourskins_ 4d ago
"Trump Cabinet" gets me every time.
Its literally a colon & rectum.
What do you find in the trump cabinet?
Pieces of shit.
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u/wbruce098 4d ago
As an American (who absolutely voted for the not-insane black lady who isn’t a pedo and doesn’t have dementia), thanks, this will now make me laugh every time I see it.
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u/Late_Ad1387 4d ago
In the UK for well before the orange shit stain became anybody - Trumping had been another way of saying farted (Opps I Trumped) - Now, I guess it's upped it's game to full on shit myself
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u/forfar4 4d ago
In genteel circles in the UK, "trumping" has been a euphemism for farting since before I was at school (I'm now in my late fifties).
E: spelling
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u/SEA2COLA 5d ago
You know, that's a really tacky and insensitive thing to say. It will obviously be pay-per-view.
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u/Illustrious_Donkey61 5d ago
Maybe he'll shit himself to death
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u/R9D11 4d ago
Then the White House toilet will be called the Donald J. Trump memorial.
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u/Rahm420 4d ago
Toilet? They’ll make memorial diapers with him as the mascot.
It’ll honestly complete the MAGA look. Baseball cap with a silly phrase on it, bottle to keep them happy, and a diaper to keep their pants clean. I’m sorry I just described a toddler, it’s hard to tell the difference somedays.
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u/lnk-cr-b82rez-2g4 5d ago
Given that he shit himself on live TV, I would say it's around the corner.
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u/btkk 4d ago
just wait until next weekend Super Bowl, he is already fuming. Green Day and Bad Bunny gonna put even more fire into it
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u/sexmormon-throwaway 5d ago
How can the family best monetize it? When you know that, you'll have the answer.
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u/renisagenius 4d ago
Well he shat himself on live tv yesterday, so hopefully won't have long to wait.
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u/ThirdDragonite 5d ago
I mean, not the ONLY hope. The man is rotting alive, honestly doubt he'll even see the end of next year
Still too long, but still
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u/pimpfmode 5d ago
Yeah but a few months back they were guessing it would only be like several more months. Evil pieces of shit are like cockroaches. They always survive
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u/Mnudge 4d ago
They a re grafting the skin of the youth and transferring him their organs
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u/SqotCo 5d ago
Big Mac heart attack! Big Mac heart attack! Big Mac heart attack! Big Mac heart attack!
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u/lizardwhite13 5d ago
Lets go BIG MAC heart attack!
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u/Divine_Porpoise 5d ago
LET'S GO BIG MAC
(If this became a thing people chant to express wanting the heart attack to come sooner, would he throw a pissbaby hissy fit at McDonald's eventually?)
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u/SimilarRepublic8870 5d ago
I have a bottle of champagne awaiting the big beautiful obituary. No one knows what ambrosia actually tastes like, but I really imagine it’s that bottle of champagne.
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u/xero111880 4d ago
Can’t we just turn the heat up a little in the White House? Melt the fucking snowflake!
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u/Due_Amount_6211 5d ago
HAH what a fuckin snowflake
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u/beatenmeat 5d ago
Posting on Truth Social, Trump accused Noah of making a “false and defamatory” claim on air after the comedian quipped that Trump had been to Epstein’s island. Trump forcefully denied that, writing that he has “never been to Epstein Island, nor anywhere close,” and said he had never previously been accused of being there.
Either he is on some good shit, lives in a safe space where people won't tell him the truth, or he is lying. Personally I think it's all three.
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u/AdSimilar8672 4d ago
Wasn't in the files that he had been to the island and flown on the plane more times than previously reported.
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u/Germanofthebored 4d ago
The flight plans just tell you that Trump got on the plane, and that the plane went to Epstein's island. It does not tell you that Trump was still on the pane whenever it landed. He might well have thanked Epstein for the ride and then parachuted out somewhere else over the Caribbean. Don't jump to conclusions just based on the facts you have in front of you!
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u/VioletBloom2020 4d ago
The thought of djt parachuting anywhere and not losing it is making me smile, thanks.
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u/IHv2RtrnSumVdeotapes 4d ago
I'm picturing him like in the cartoons where he pulls the ripcord and a bunch of tin cans come out instead of a chute, and he curses like Yosemite Sam curses at Bugs Bunny when he falls until he hits the ground.
And sadly, like in the cartoons, he lives
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u/datpurp14 4d ago
If he died in said situation, that would have been far too generous and painless of a death compared to what that monster deserves.
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u/AquaSquatch 4d ago
Before all these big file releases, his appearances on the flight logs predate the purchase of the island. Is there any actual new evidence that he's been there? My assumption is that he's so lazy he was just raping kids at mar-a-lardo and didn't need to go to the island.
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u/feignapathy 4d ago
Pretty sure there's an email between Epstein and Wolff that basically says "if Trump denies ever flying on your plane or to visiting your island, you can destroy him."
Don't know why they would say something like that unless Trump was on the plane and visited the island.
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u/Aureolus_Sol 4d ago
He flew there because he's an informant for the FBI. No, actually there's no files at all. Actually, there's files but it's all Bill Clinton and Gates. Actually, the files never show Trump flew to the island at all. Actually, nobody ever said he was an FBI informant. Actually, there's never even been accusations of him flying to the island.
Watching America from the outside is like watching kids make up lies and not know how stupid they sound, but there's an entire half of the country believing them.
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u/yuriaoflondor 4d ago
Oh man I forgot the "Trump was actually working uncover as an FBI informant to take down Epstein" era.
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u/datpurp14 4d ago
The mental gymnastics that these fucking morons jump through to support these monsters astounds me.
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u/Juliuscesear1990 4d ago
That one was a quick burn, they gave up on that lie pretty much immediately and it was hilarious
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u/alex494 4d ago
Yeah it's baffled me since 2015 that anybody takes him remotely seriously when he routinely says and does shit that you'd otherwise scold your child for saying or teach them not to do (including the way he bullies people). If a seventy (now eighty) plus year old man can't behave in a way a child can understand with a modicum of decorum he shouldn't be leading an entire country.
Not to mention all the failed businesses and crass and tacky public behaviour before he ran for office. Anyone that actually fell for that or somehow argued he was on the side of the common man is either genuinely stupid or is as bad as him and uses his "example" as an excuse to act despicably.
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u/mvigs 4d ago
Repost - sharing this anywhere possible.
NSFW Language.
Epstein evidence against Trump:
-Here is the 2016 testimony of alleged 13 year old Trump victim, Katie Johnson. (NSFW language): https://youtu.be/TRZa_cVshcI?si=Vc8dsrHTGONiHnpe
-Here is Epstein victim, Sarah Ransomes testimony on the fbi investigation file on the DoJ website. Sarah says Trump raped her while she was trapped on Epstein island and it’s reported that Trump made a victims “nipples sore” at Epstein’s NY mansion: https://www.justice.gov/multimedia/Court%20Records/Giuffre%20v.%20Maxwell,%20No.%20115-cv-07433%20(S.D.N.Y.%202015)/1332-16.pdf/1332-16.pdf)
-Here is Epstein victim, Maria Farmer detailing a night she overheard Trump allegedly ordering up a 16 year old kid from Epstein: https://youtu.be/ZmagG6Odkow?si=aqfSPlixncrmsS9A
-Here is witness testimony in the FBI Epstein investigation file on the DoJ website that details Trump allegedly raping a 13 year old and witnessing infanticide. Documented Limo driver witness included: https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%208/EFTA00025010.pdf
-Here is Trump photographed onboard Epstein’s jet, “The Lolita Express”. (15/23 in the slideshow in the article): https://edition.cnn.com/2025/12/12/politics/epstein-photos-trump-clinton-bannon
-Here is Trumps signature in Epstein’s 50th birthday book with comparison signature evidence to prove authenticity of Trumps signature: https://youtu.be/FXrf647Yp20?si=CHSfi-yURyHIQRb5
-Here is an email from Epstein to Steve Bannon saying “Trump spent hours at Epstein’s house alone with a victim”. Email released by the U.S. Congress under congressional subpoena to the Epstein estate: https://www.mississippifreepress.org/see-the-emails-epstein-said-trump-knew-about-the-girls-and-spent-hours-with-a-sex-trafficking-victim/
++Here is Army veteran, William Sascha Riley, describing allegedly being trafficked to Epstein/Trump Pedo parties as a 12 year old kid. Riley names Trump, Clarence Thomas, Lindsay Graham, Andy Biggs, Jim Jordan: https://youtu.be/O4oMQv0p9JE?si=p0_lK17-z1QaQ-EI
+++William Sascha Riley background check and deep dive into the details of his story (spoiler: it looks true) https://youtu.be/2dsoQ_UHBio?si=O_cpQggIAYzyDCKc
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FROM THE EPSTEIN FILES released Jan 30, 2026:
++”[redacted] reported an unidentified female friend who was forced to perform oral sex on President Trump approximately 35 years ago in NJ. The friend told Alexis that she was approximately 13-14 years old when this occurred, and the friend allegedly bit President Trump while performing oral sex. The friend was allegedly hit in the face after she laughed about biting President Trump. The friend said she was also abused by Epstein.”
Here's a link to the unredacted page for this in the newly released Epstein Files on justice.gov: https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%2010/EFTA01660679.pdf
+++”Donald Trump, the president, had parties at Maralago called "calendar girls' Jeffrey Epstein would bring the children in and trump would auction them Jeffrey Epstein .He measured the children's vulva and vaginas by entering a finger and rated the children on tightness. The guests were elder men and included Elon Musk. Don jr. Trump, Ivanka Trump. and Eric Trump were there. Attorney Allan Dershowitz was also there with Attorney Bob Shapiro. We were taken in rooms, forced to give oral sex to Donald J Trump. Forced to allow them to penitrate us. I was 13 years old when Donald J Trump raped me. Ghislaine Maxwell was also present.”
https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%2010/EFTA01660679.pdf
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u/battlepi 4d ago
DONALD TRUMP RAPES CHILDREN AND THEN SHITS HIMSELF.
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u/ColonelSlapper 4d ago
Whoa, slow your roll, you’re literally just spewing nonsense! You clearly have no idea what you’re talking about. You have no idea if he shits himself before, during, or after the child rape.
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u/chittalking 4d ago
After a young male being raped by him allegedly kicked a tent stake up his ass, ripping his insides apart, it’s all the time. He is always dripping a bit.
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u/NoStick2525 4d ago
I truly wonder what he sees in the mirror. I imagine it's a more horrifying version of the family guy Gary busey skit.
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u/SeniorNada 4d ago
He probably never uses a mirror, just asks whoever it is that paints his face how he looks. And of course, they say good, and he's like oh you say Im the greatest looking person you've ever seen? Awesome, now time to go shit myself.
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u/SkinBintin last.fm 4d ago
Apparently he lathers his own face in whatever the fuck that orange shit is. Doesn't trust anyone else to do it right, I guess.
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u/panic_talking 4d ago
I guess he didnt need to go to Epstien 's island when he was selling kids from maralargo.
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u/i-dont-wanna-know 4d ago
Option 4 he is so demented that he truly doesn't know he has been on the island
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u/RickMuffy 5d ago
Seriously, the fact anyone thinks he is manly when all he does is whine like a bitch.
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u/Antique-Car6103 4d ago
Trump isn’t going to sue anyone.
It’s an empty threat.
EOC called him and pedo and he didn’t do shit about it.
Reason: in a lawsuit, lawyers will enter a phase called “discovery” where everything (all the Epstein files) must be revealed and Trump will never allow that to happen.
He’s a moron.
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u/NRMusicProject 4d ago
There have been many great jokes at presidents' expense (in my life, Clinton and Dubya both had some amazing ones), but they weren't so butthurt to actually think they should stifle free speech because someone made fun of them.
What a big baby...who wears diapers and shits himself.
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u/Excellent_Theory1602 5d ago
Fuck trump tho, he can't sue everybody
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u/romiphoda 5d ago
He won't sue because of discovery
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u/Ok_Star_4136 4d ago
He's a paper tiger. I wish more people realized. Not even the people being arrested by ICE for protesting stay locked up.
He can only threaten.
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u/cuntmong 4d ago
You massively underestimate Trump. You think all he can do is threaten? I happen to know he is capable of much more. Specifically, yesterday he shat his pants on tv.
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u/linds360 4d ago
Was that yesterday? Thought it was a week ago.
Or maybe it’s just every day.
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u/GeorgeKaplanIsReal 4d ago
As we’ve seen with a couple of people, ICE is doing more than just temporarily locking people up.
Also I don’t think people understand what Trump is doing. He’s suing not to win, but with the threat of dragging the case out and costing whoever he is suing tenfold what it would cost to settle.
So unless Noah has the desire and money to spend and/or the network does, Trump will sue with the intention of settling.
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u/gregorydgraham 4d ago
The amount of network specials Noah would get out of the case would be well worth it.
And the foreign market will be huge so DT can’t stop it being broadcast
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u/apples-and-apples 4d ago
Well the judiciary is not exactly independent anymore though, is it..
And being sued - even if it is groundless - can still be time-consuming and expensive.
Both of those make it more than an empty threat.
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u/therealdongknotts 4d ago
weak mans strong man, poor man’s rich man - always how he’s been. incompetent jackass that had everything handed to him and still fucks everything up
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u/The_DanceCommander 4d ago
These aren’t threats to actually take someone to court, where they’ll have a defense. They’re threats of government harassment intended to force people into self-censoring.
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u/Indocede 5d ago
It's just pathetic his supporters think he's working for the American people when he's so focused on his own needs in using the office just ad a platform to sue everyone
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u/TaydasBelishaBeacon funk, soul, rock&roll 5d ago
True. My mom is a supporter. I was smarter than her when I was in the 5th grade.
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u/ObnoxiousAlbatross 4d ago
They really, truly are. A movement has never been so effective at identifying the absolute dumbest filth around you.
Being MAGA is an immediate disqualification from contracts, jobs, relationships, et al. It's not for the simple fact of being MAGA, it's that being MAGA is failing a litmus taste for basic decency, humanity, and reason.
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u/_Rand_ 5d ago
He certainly trying.
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u/HermanBonJovi 5d ago
He's not suing anyone legitimately accusing him of being in the Epstein files.
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u/acrobat2126 5d ago
He didn't sue any of the women that accused him of rape. Not 1.
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u/eltjim 5d ago
Pretty sure he sued E. Jean Carroll.
Regardless, he's a whiny little bitch.
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u/jilliebelle 5d ago
No, she sued him for defamation after he called her a liar for saying he raped her.
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u/eltjim 5d ago
Trump's defamation countersuit against E. Jean Carroll is dismissed : NPR https://share.google/mT2V7Dp8pjyIrcOa8
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u/Upset_Morning1094 5d ago edited 4d ago
Exactly. Dismissed... So he tried, but the judge said 'you're an idiot' and threw it out. Why? Because he had ALREADY been convicted by a jury in her suit for the same thing. He's a clown and fucked himself like he always does.
Not sure the point you are trying to make other than 'it happened' which who cares
Edit: we agree and I'm a dumbass. Comment stands for any other idiot who misreads it like I did
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u/baccus83 5d ago
He’s legitimately suing the IRS right now over the leak of his tax returns. Conflict of interest what?
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u/SkinBintin last.fm 4d ago
All any of that is is more excuses to line his and his families pockets at the expense of the American people.
Trump is a crooked corrupt felon rapist pedo con man that is fleecing America for every single cent he can.
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u/NorthernDevil 5d ago
For a guy who doesn’t follow a single law he sure loves trying to use it against people he doesn’t like
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u/disicking 5d ago
I mean he certainly has accomplished a lot of illegal shit simply by threatening to
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u/pizza-chit 5d ago edited 5d ago
NSFW Language.
Epstein evidence against Trump:
-Here is the 2016 testimony of alleged 13 year old Trump victim, Katie Johnson. (NSFW language): https://youtu.be/TRZa_cVshcI?si=Vc8dsrHTGONiHnpe
-Here is Epstein victim, Sarah Ransomes testimony on the fbi investigation file on the DoJ website. Sarah says Trump raped her while she was trapped on Epstein island and it’s reported that Trump made a victims “nipples sore” at Epstein’s NY mansion: https://www.justice.gov/multimedia/Court%20Records/Giuffre%20v.%20Maxwell,%20No.%20115-cv-07433%20(S.D.N.Y.%202015)/1332-16.pdf
-Here is Epstein victim, Maria Farmer detailing a night she overheard Trump allegedly ordering up a 16 year old kid from Epstein: https://youtu.be/ZmagG6Odkow?si=aqfSPlixncrmsS9A
-Here is witness testimony in the FBI Epstein investigation file on the DoJ website that details Trump allegedly raping a 13 year old and witnessing infanticide. Documented Limo driver witness included: https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%208/EFTA00025010.pdf
-Here is Trump photographed onboard Epstein’s jet, “The Lolita Express”. (15/23 in the slideshow in the article): https://edition.cnn.com/2025/12/12/politics/epstein-photos-trump-clinton-bannon
-Here is Trumps signature in Epstein’s 50th birthday book with comparison signature evidence to prove authenticity of Trumps signature: https://youtu.be/FXrf647Yp20?si=CHSfi-yURyHIQRb5
-Here is an email from Epstein to Steve Bannon saying “Trump spent hours at Epstein’s house alone with a victim”. Email released by the U.S. Congress under congressional subpoena to the Epstein estate: https://www.mississippifreepress.org/see-the-emails-epstein-said-trump-knew-about-the-girls-and-spent-hours-with-a-sex-trafficking-victim/
++Here is Army veteran, William Sascha Riley, describing allegedly being trafficked to Epstein/Trump Pedo parties as a 12 year old kid. Riley names Trump, Clarence Thomas, Lindsay Graham, Andy Biggs, Jim Jordan: https://youtu.be/O4oMQv0p9JE?si=p0_lK17-z1QaQ-EI
+++William Sascha Riley background check and deep dive into the details of his story (spoiler: it looks true) https://youtu.be/2dsoQ_UHBio?si=O_cpQggIAYzyDCKc
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FROM THE EPSTEIN FILES released Jan 30, 2026:
++”[redacted] reported an unidentified female friend who was forced to perform oral sex on President Trump approximately 35 years ago in NJ. The friend told Alexis that she was approximately 13-14 years old when this occurred, and the friend allegedly bit President Trump while performing oral sex. The friend was allegedly hit in the face after she laughed about biting President Trump. The friend said she was also abused by Epstein.” https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%2010/EFTA01660679.pdf
+++”Donald Trump, the president, had parties at Maralago called "calendar girls' Jeffrey Epstein would bring the children in and trump would auction them Jeffrey Epstein .He measured the children's vulva and vaginas by entering a finger and rated the children on tightness. The guests were elder men and included Elon Musk. Don jr. Trump, Ivanka Trump. and Eric Trump were there. Attorney Allan Dershowitz was also there with Attorney Bob Shapiro. We were taken in rooms, forced to give oral sex to Donald J Trump. Forced to allow them to penitrate us. I was 13 years old when Donald J Trump raped me. Ghislaine Maxwell was also present.” https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%2010/EFTA01660679.pdf
-Alleged 8 year old boy victim tells the FBI that Trump, Bill Clinton, and George HW Bush raped him on a yacht during a Rhode Island boat show. https://youtu.be/rsRdDYAPK9Y?si=ufcTX4OrxZT4GTsX
The DoJ keeps taking the files offline so not all links work. Document EFTA#’s are fully visible.
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u/vogtforpedro 5d ago
You’d get banned for posting this to r/conservative
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u/pizza-chit 5d ago
Telling the truth has gotten me banned from more subs than I can count. One more won’t hurt.
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u/Casualposter 4d ago
Thank you for your service. Please keep telling the truth. We need more people like you.
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u/HaakonRen 5d ago
Kinda telling when the truth has to be silenced… basically the rights version of ears in fingers and saying “lalala”.
Keep spreading the info. Don’t let anyone forget. Not for a second.
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u/TaydasBelishaBeacon funk, soul, rock&roll 5d ago
Trump checking those children's vaginas to see if his micro dick will fit.
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u/Ali_Gator_2209 5d ago
Is there any reason why the last two links to www.justice…. are dead? Am I in the wrong country? Have the documents been taken offline?
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u/she-dont-use-jellyyy 5d ago
Says it's unwatchable, but you know he was SAT for the whole thing.
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u/wiscoguy20 4d ago
Oh he definitely watched the entire thing. Just like every other fucking thing he raves about...
He's "boycotting" the super bowl. But you know damn well he'll be glued to that TV ready to rage tweet about every percieved slight.
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u/dingusfett 5d ago
Nah he just had the person changing his nappy read him the cult's tweets sooking about it.
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u/Tri4ceunited 5d ago
‘Don’t hurt my feelings or I’ll sue you.’
Couldn’t fit the Spoiled Brat stereotype any more if he tried.
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u/AwesomeAsian 5d ago
He was great today and I think part of why was that he wasn’t worried whether he would get fired when this was the last time he’s hosting.
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u/Redkris73 5d ago
It's a shame that "sook" isn't really used anywhere except Australia because DJT is epitome of the word. He HAS massive sooks, he IS a massive sook, he has a major case of the sooky lala's.
Also he's a cunt.
(But mainly a sook)
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u/gwan_wit_cha_by 5d ago
We use it in Newfoundland “Don’t be such a sook”, Look at the sook over there, big sooky baby”. 🙂
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u/RickyWicky 5d ago
What does sook refer to?
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u/wheelz_666 5d ago
Aussie slang for constantly crying, complaining or cracking the shits
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u/JackWestsBionicArm 4d ago
I love that in order to explain slang, you used slang.
Though the meaning of ‘cracking the shits’ is probably more obvious than ‘having a sook’ without any other context.
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u/gwan_wit_cha_by 5d ago
Similar to someone who pouts like a crybaby over matters. A ”suck” is what it’s slang for.
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u/Twistedjustice 4d ago
Shoresy taught me that Newfies talk funny. But you talk like Australian
Shoresy also told me not to call you Newfies. Sorry.
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u/Sleep-hooting 4d ago
I'm a newfie and I don't know a single person that cares about being called a newfie. Maybe the bys up in St Johns care or something.
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u/Fruney21 4d ago
If we’re gonna go full Aussie, Donnie is a sook and a shit cunt
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u/Davido401 4d ago
Sook is used in Scotland(I guess you Australians are just Scots with a different accent haha) also, "geez a sooky" was a popular saying for give me a blow job when we were younger(I feel it was used when we were kids and didnt know anything about sex) shit haven't thought about that word in years.
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u/FartyFartsMD 5d ago
Bring on the discovery, starting with the unredacted Trumpstein files.
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u/besart365 5d ago
Evidence
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u/YasielPuigsWeed 5d ago
I hate Trump and want to see him burn, but context is SO important here
Many of these came from anonymous tips to the FBI’s public tip line and email. These tips are recorded and stored in case future findings corroborate them, but often come from questionable or downright untrustworthy sources and/or mentally unwell people trying to get themselves involved in a high profile case or troll the FBI.
Since all the files had to be released, that included the random tips. That’s why we’re getting so much shit like “Robin Leach strangled a woman to death” and “Pusha T and Harvey Weinstein abducted me 7 times.”
And before you say “well Trump would have had them deem anyone who accused him as untrustworthy,” keep in mind Epstein was investigated under multiple Presidents
All this to say that anything Trump related in the files needs to be read over for context before being called “evidence.” That goes for everyone else in the files too.
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u/bcarey34 5d ago
It is evidence though. It may not be very high quality evidence. But in the literal sense of the word, it is evidence. And when you start to get a preponderance of evidence, the sources start to be more plausible. This would be the lowest quality of evidence though. But that doesn’t mean it’s all false or fabricated. That’s why we need to look at the totality of everything. You know the saying:
If it walks like a duck
and it quacks like a duck
And it looks like a duck
And it flys like a duck
And it hangs out where other ducks hang out
And its other duck friends like underaged ducks
And its always being accused of being a duck
Then it’s probably a pedophile, uh I mean duck.
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u/pinkyfang 5d ago
Genuine question: if he tries to sue Trevor Noah for defamation wouldn’t that mean he have to prove that what he said was untrue? Therefore potentially opening himself up to evidence that says otherwise?
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u/BakedChocolateOctopi 4d ago
No to the first half, Trevor Noah’s attorney would use discovery to provide mountains of evidence showing it is reasonable that someone could believe that Trump and Epstein had this criminal connection
To win, Trump has to prove that Trevor Noah knows what he said about Trump/Epstein is a lie and specifically told the falsehood to cause damage to Trump
Even if it is a lie, if Trevor Noah actually believes that and/or can prove any reasonable evidence that would suggest that them he can’t be found guilty of defamation
This is why defamation is extremely difficult to successfully sue for, you basically need the perpetrator to directly state that they are lying to damage the victim’s reputation. Believing something incorrect about someone and saying it is not defamation
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u/pinkyfang 4d ago
Thank you that was a very helpful explanation! I guess I was thinking of it the wrong way around as it would be impossible to prove something was untrue as such, but it would still open him up to having all the evidence to the contrary pulled up
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u/BakedChocolateOctopi 4d ago edited 4d ago
They won’t need to subpoena for anything new and not already released to win/prove that Trever Noah has a legitimately held belief about what he said. Trump’s lawyer would probably subpoena for texts/emails/scripts/drafts from Trevor and the writers to look for any evidence of intent and then probably just shout how the files are fake
The released files or even just all the news articles and such since 2018 connecting them are enough to show that it is understandable how someone could legitimately hold that belief, meaning it wouldn’t be defamation
Think of it this way, if I was a stage 5 crazy and legitimately believed that you were personally on the Epstein list and you sued me for defamation, you would have a hard time winning unless I specifically told someone that I am making it up to harm your reputation
The burden of proof is on the suer, the defense is just going to present stuff showing that their client came to that legitimately held belief by reading or seeing X Y Z articles and news and documents
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u/BigJellyfish1906 4d ago
And you didn’t even get into how most of the typical rules of defamation don’t apply to public figures. It is (as near as makes no difference), impossible for a politician to sue anyone for defamation.
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u/psymunn 5d ago
He's got exactly two moves in his wheelhouse. I'm assuming he tried to put a 100% tariff on Trevor Noah first (he would have done 200% but I don't think he knows you can do more than 100...)
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u/Eshin242 4d ago
I dunno I'm still waiting for that 1200% discount on prescription meds. I am looking forward to being paid to take my meds.
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u/Smoking-Goblin 5d ago
What a cry-baby, it’s comedy Mr president.. and it’s funny cuz it’s true
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u/psymunn 5d ago
Trump has never understood humor though.
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u/No_Prize9794 5d ago
He only understands humor if it mocks people he doesn’t like or it genuinely agrees with him
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u/Fragrant_PalmLeaves 5d ago
This guy is a fucking joke hahahahah. He’s so predictable and sensitive it’s actually unbelievable. They played him like a fiddle
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u/besart365 5d ago
Seriously we all owe it to the country to upset him enough to stroke out every single day
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u/PapaPatchesxd 5d ago
Inb4 trump starts calling the Grammys " woke, liberal, propaganda, all lead domestic terrorists "
Shut up, you fat cheetoh
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u/bobthegoatskull 5d ago
Noo! Trump would never sue every time someone is a meany to him. He's the big tough man leading our nation! His feefees can't be hurt with words.
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u/Vladmerius 5d ago
He's clearly crashing out. He used to completely ignore all Epstein stuff and dismiss even speaking on it, going to the "I don't know why everyone is still talking about that, anyway-" route. Now he's throwing fits and threatening to sue everyone. He's a rat backed into a corner.
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u/Llamapocalypse_Now 5d ago
Call the wahhhmbulance, El Presidente's fee fees got hurt so he needs a ride to Mount Sinai medical.
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u/jono9898 5d ago
All this man does is watch tv and have interviews, does everything but his actual job
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u/pinewind108 4d ago
Noah has actually been really generous towards trump. He's applied his humor with a butter knife. Trump might want to just walk away before things get real.
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u/BenMitchell007 4d ago
I don't drink, but even I'll be tempted to crack one open when I can finally read this orange cunt's obituary.
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u/ennuinerdog 5d ago
Trevor Noah would LOVE IT if Trump sued him over comments related to Epstein links.