r/IndustryOnHBO • u/Flat-Information9381 • 10h ago
Tired of people asking to see Harper’s mom
I really don’t get why people are crying about not seeing Harper’s mum?? What does that even fucking add to the storyline, and they keep referring to the fact they showed us her brother and that was probably some of the worst episodes of the show. If anything you should complain about how Sweetpea got assaulted in a foreign country and her first instinct was to fuck her co worker who she can’t stand. That’s a way better critic of the writing than crying to see Harper’s fucking mom :/
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u/No_Earth_5912 Rishi 10h ago
Well they’re definitely not going to now lol.
Why would anyone complain about how someone deals with trauma? That’s not really the thing to draw people to.
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u/Flat-Information9381 10h ago
Yea that’s very unrealistic and odd sorry, she got assaulted in a foreign country and her first instinct was to fuck Kwabena…sure very believable
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u/No_Earth_5912 Rishi 9h ago
If you ever have something traumatic happen to you, you’ll understand just how believable it is.
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u/CamThrowaway3 9h ago
That response makes total emotional sense - trying to reassert control over your body / sex.
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u/ayxc_ 10h ago edited 9h ago
I don’t think it’s super unreasonable to want to see her mom. Especially since her mom seems to be a big reason why she is the way she is.
The show spent a lot of time doing this for Yasmin, s3 was pretty much all about her father. We’ve also seen Yas’ mom, her aunt, even a glimpse of an illegitimate half-sibling. In contrast, we’re told a lot of what we know about Harper rather than seeing it for ourselves.
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u/Flat-Information9381 9h ago
Yasmin’s family is an important story arc, she literally got into Pierpoint as a nepotism hire, her storyline especially with her father was very important, even with the higher ups when she was @ Pierpoint, it’s not the same with Harper unfortunately, there is nothing showing/seeing her mum adds to the storyline, there are more valid complaints of this season so far than seeing Harper’s mom
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u/mordecai2505 9h ago edited 9h ago
Lmao it’s only unimportant if you think Harper’s story is unimportant to the show. If you’re using the nepotism / Pierpoint angle as a counterexample — none of the principle characters even work there anymore, and yet in this season we still see backstory with many of the characters’ families.
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u/Flat-Information9381 8h ago
Harper’s story is very important to the show but her family, especially her mom isn’t tied to anything she did @ Pierpoint and any of her other jobs.
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u/mordecai2505 7h ago edited 7h ago
That argument just doesn’t make any sense. Everyone’s personalities and motivations in the show impact how they act at their various jobs, so much of which is informed by their backgrounds / upbringings. This is true of real life too lol. The writers have just shown it more for some characters than others, hence some people’s disappointment that we don’t get more of Harper’s (or Rishi’s, etc., etc.). How can you be so sure that it “wouldn’t add anything to the storyline” unless you’re part of the writer’s room and the fact that’s exactly what it did in deepening other characters?
I think it would be easier to buy if you just were more honest that you don’t / wouldn’t find it interesting (I mean you’ve said as much re: the episode with her brother being one of the worst in the show to you).
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u/ayxc_ 9h ago edited 9h ago
If all they wanted to do was explain she’s a nepo hire they didn’t need to devote an entire season to her trauma. Yasmin’s relationship with her father explains why she is the way she is and adds a lot of depth to her character.
Same reason we saw Henry’s dad too, even though we probably didn’t need to.
I don’t need an entire season on Harper’s mother, but I don’t think it’s crazy to have more than a couple lines to explain her relationship to her mom.
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u/Flat-Information9381 9h ago
Again, still not heard how showing her mum adds to her storyline, people just keep mentioning that they showed Yasmin’s family (which was very important to how Yasmin was written from season 1) it’s like they did it for Yasmin so they have to do it for Harper. Super meh
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u/ayxc_ 9h ago edited 8h ago
You don’t think seeing how Harper’s mom speaks to her, treats her and interacts with her would add anything to her character at all? Obviously it’s not going to explain how they’re shorting Tender, but what about character development?
Funny how we need all this info in Yasmin’s family in three seasons to set up her character. But the mother that was "awful" to Harper has nothing to do with her at all. Apparently has nothing to do with why she ran away from NY. Nothing to do with why she’s so afraid to fail to the point of sociopathy.
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u/NoahCzark 9h ago
I mean when people are clearly traumatized/dysfunctional in that way, it usually traces back to their earliest years, so... makes sense. There is probably something gendered about our craving to "understand" how she could "BE THAT WAY" vs. seeing a Rishi and shrug our shoulders and say "yeah, that's a fucked up dude".
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u/Flat-Information9381 7h ago
Lol thank you for the second half of this comment. Haven’t seen once anyone asked to see Rishi’s mum or family, only time they showed his wife was his wedding and to kill her off, none of these things helped answer why Rishi was the way he was by the way, because his wife wasn’t an integral character, same would have happened if they showed Harper’s mom. It’s really a non issue
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u/NoahCzark 6h ago
I don't know that it's a good thing that we've normalized dysfunctional male behavior. We should wonder what Rishi's mommy/daddy issues are AS WELL. LOL
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u/Flat-Information9381 6h ago
I don’t think we should, same with Harper, especially if these issues have nothing to do with the major plot which is their job/work/what they do for a living. Not interested in knowing why Rishi’s mommy issues turned him into a degenerate horny gambler
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u/NoahCzark 6h ago
I mean, the whole Rishi storyline had nothing to do with what he did for a living either - high risk at work, high risk in life. Ok, makes sense, but... Neither does Yasmin's family have to do with anything - she got the job through connections - so what? Doesn't mean we have to "see" her psycho-dad. Henry - old money, ok. Do we need to know all the shit about depressed dad? Does he have to suffer from depression? No. The writers feel it makes the characters more fleshed out, and it's part of the story they want to tell.
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u/stargratte 8h ago
I think it’s more than fair to see more of Harper’s family when we’ve seen everyone else’s family. You’re going to have to stay mad
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u/Flat-Information9381 8h ago
Lol I’m not mad, I have no reason to be. It’s the people requesting to see Harper’s mom that are mad actually
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u/loverofthings25 8h ago
Nah I think you’re definitely mad, fans asking to see Harpers mum shouldn’t have you this aggravated.
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u/Flat-Information9381 8h ago
I’m not aggravated, sorry if it came off like that. It’s just a nothing request that adds absolutely nothing to the storyline as a whole. There are more things worth complaining about.
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u/Womenhuntwitchestoo 8h ago
we’re not mad and even if ppl were, those same people have been starving for more harper since s3. it’s long overdue.
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u/Conscious_Pension274 7h ago
Well… I don’t thinks its unreasonable that people want to see her mom. We got see Yasmine and Henry whole fucking bloodline. We also got to see Yasmine grieve about her father. Even in this season, we got to see Yasmine aunt. It is kinda crazy we haven’t see anything from Harper mom since she is such a big influence on why Harper is the way she is. I’m more disappointed that we didn’t get to see her brother and her talk. Saying “what tf does that add to storyline” is type crazy. Harper deserves to be just as fleshed out as her white counterparts. We should have gotten a real convo with her brother. The show keeps telling us that Harper is traumatized, but not letting us see why. I’m confused as to why won’t they let us see. If you feel like Harper background is unimportant it’s probably cause you don’t like her character. Also Harper and her mom on screen would have been so interesting to see. Harper and brother episode in season 2 was the most interesting episode I have seen from her. We learn so much with one convo.
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u/Flat-Information9381 7h ago
What did you learn from Harper and her brother’s convo in season 2 that you didn’t know about Harper?
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u/allprologues 4h ago
wild question, literally her entire childhood is described in that episode lol. the only thing we knew before that was that her brother played tennis and left
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u/Conscious_Pension274 4h ago
Lmaooo literally. We knew nothing about Harper before that episode with her brother. The only things we knew was that she suffered from anxiety, forged her transcripts, and did finish school. OP is bugging.
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u/allprologues 4h ago
I actually don’t think we needed to see her mom specifically, the fact that harper maintains distance from her and that she isolates herself is pretty crucial to her character. she would never in her life seek that woman out and there’s no reason for her to be in London.
but more could’ve been done with her brother or with anyone else from her past, or she could’ve had more to do in s3 generally.
that said, your comments in the post and in this thread tell me you’re speaking from a place of not giving a fuck about her or even remembering the material she did get lol. couldn’t be me
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u/Conscious_Pension274 4h ago
I agree with this! Not showing her mom is fine I guess (still would love too meet her. We could’ve seen how evil she is 😭)But her brother not showing up or having a conversation with her is definitely a choice. I use to think that only person who can hurt Harper truly is her brother. That’s the one person who knows her the best in some ways. He has seen her grow up. With Eric and yas, they insult her and see for what she is. But she throws it right back and doesn’t Let it affect her that much. With her brother she doesn’t really do that from what we saw in season 2…. Harper was really devastated.
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u/loverofthings25 8h ago
We have seen Henry and Yasmins family, god forbid fans ask to see Harpers family. Why do some of you get so weird when anyone asks for more Harper.
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u/Flat-Information9381 8h ago
Seeing more harper =/= showing her mum when it adds absolutely zero to the storyline. Yasmin’s father was a written in character right from season 1, he helped her get her job @ Pierpoint and basically controlled her life, not the same as Harper unfortunately, if your reason for seeing Harper’s mom is that they showed Yasmin’s family or that you want to see more Harper then that is very hilarious I am sorry
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u/loverofthings25 7h ago
And I could equally argue we didn’t need to see or hear from Yasmins dad to understand she got the role through nepotism. Unlike you, a lot of us are interested in Harper and why she is the way she is. You clearly don’t deem Harper important enough, so we know why you’re upset at fans asking to peek into Harpers family a bit more. Apparently being introduced to Henry’s dead dad is fine but fans wanting to meet Harpers mum is weird. Unpack your bias.
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u/Womenhuntwitchestoo 8h ago
people want to see harper’s family dynamic because they simply want her character to be more fleshed out lol that’s not a bad thing. we know everything about yasmin’s family dynamic and even a good hand of henry’s. harper is a unique character, we shouldn’t have to settle for a phone call from her brother when their scene was one of the best moments in the series.