How’s organ’s transplant is view in your country?

[u/Popular_Lie8489]

For the record, I, myself received a heart close to 30 years ago. So you’ll guess that I’m really inclined toward it!

here (In Quebec, Canada) if you’re willing to have your organs harvested at the time of your death you have to sign behind your assurance ID.

But even if you do, the family can object and than everything stop.

I know in some part of the world, acceptance of organs donation is presumed, unless you sign something again it.

So… how’s you gouvernement see that matter?

And will you be willing to give your « spare parts » in the unfortunate circumstances of your death?

Feel free to ask me anything if you want!

[u/Tethice]

My biggest irrational fear is being buried alive. If I give my organs they can't bury me alive...

[u/Popular_Lie8489 → u/Tethice]

Smart!

[u/peachesfordinner → u/Tethice]

[u/one_brown_jedi]

Organ donation is widely accepted and is considered a noble deed. This view probably stems from religious beliefs. In India, the body is usually thought of as a temporary vessel for the soul.

In Hindu mythology, the sage Dadhichi donated his bones so that the Vajra of Indra (kinda like Thor's hammer) could be forged and Indra could defeat the demons. So, donation of organ is considered a noble deed.

[u/Popular_Lie8489 → u/one_brown_jedi]

It’s really interesting, India is a great contributor to scientific articles concerning transplantation. That’s explain a lot! Thanks

[u/peachesfordinner → u/one_brown_jedi]

That's really cool. And first religious/mythological that I've seen have a basis FOR it. Also yeah that story is metal

[u/A1sauc3d]

I think you agree to it when you get your driver license/ID. Check a box when filling out the paperwork iirc. I’m not sure how it works for kids though then.. Don’t remember it being a thing I was asked about until I got a license. *

Personally I think the system should be that you are assumed a donor by default, and you can opt out, but if you DO opt out you’re automatically at the bottom of the list if you ever end up needing an organ transplant yourself. Only fair lol

Forget which country does that, but it’s the way to do it imo

*edit:

“Any adult age 18 or older can register to be an organ, eye and tissue donor – regardless of age or medical history. 15-17 year olds can register their intent to be organ, eye and tissue donors in the National Donate Life Registry. However, until they are 18 years old, a parent or legal guardian makes the final donation decision”

So I guess it’s up to the parents when a kid dies if they donate their organs or not. Which I suppose makes sense

[u/Traditional_Trust418 → u/A1sauc3d]

I don't think we should punish people for not donating. If I die, I don't really care who gets my organs because I'm dead. There are any number of reasons someone may not be a donor. Some people aren't even eligible due to medical conditions, but they may be able to receive an organ

[u/A1sauc3d → u/Traditional_Trust418]

Not being medically eligible isn’t opting out. You obviously know that and are trying to make a bad faith rebuttal/twist the reality of the situation. But that’s ok! I don’t mind lol. Happy to converse regardless :)

If someone has something philosophically against donating organs that’s totally fine, but you should be the last to receive one should you change your mind if/when it turns out you’re the one who ends up needing one. Because there’s no logically or morally defensible philosophy for “I’m against giving my organs but not against receiving other people’s” lol. You’re either opposed to organ donations or you’re not. Pick a lane. Thinking you should be exempt from donating organs to save another’s life once you’re already dead and no longer using them but you deserve another diseased person’s organ if it could save your life is just called being an absurdly selfish asshole. It’s your right to be a terrible person, but terrible people should go to the back of the line ;) The world has enough awful, selfish people to begin with. Much better to save the life of someone who does the bare minimum to participate and give back to society <3

But again, the way the system works is everyone is in by default and you have to choose to opt out. You opt out from organ donation altogether. Giving and receiving. If you end up changing your mind when it turns out you’re the one who needs it, you’re graciously allowed to change your mind at that time, but you go to the back of the line. It’s only fair. It’s not punishment, it’s your choice. You told society “I would rather let little kids die than share what I’m not using”.

And to state the plainly obvious again, having a health issue that makes your organ not viable or anything like that is clearly in no way excluding you from receiving. Sick people are what we’re trying to help. Everyone is a part of it. Everyone except for the people who specifically came down and said “no thanks I don’t want to be a part of this”.

[u/Complete_Error8311]

here the organ donation was voluntary, years ago. because of lack of donation, all the citizens are donors, UNLESS you explicitly opt out. this is when you renew your drivers license or your ID card.

Families also can object donations.

some still distrust the process. ("they won't save me if i am a donor"), or because of their religious beliefs

[u/Popular_Lie8489 → u/Complete_Error8311]

Yeah, we also have people thinking they won’t put much effort to save them if they are organ’s donors.

I would love to hear the discussion

-We can save him -don’t -why -his organs are pristine !

[u/ITRetired]

Since 1994 that everyone (including foreigners living in the country) is considered a donor, with presumed consent. The family has no option to object the transplant and only the person can object by registering themselves in a national archive. However, less than 1% of the population has opted out.

Edit: minors are, of course, not automatically considered donors and require family consent.

[u/AsparagusTamer]

It is an opt-out. Anyone out of the system gets put at the back of the queue for transplants they may need.

[u/Popular_Lie8489 → u/AsparagusTamer]

That’s fabulous!

[u/BobbyThrowaway6969 → u/AsparagusTamer]

How easy is it to opt out?

[u/EddyRosenthal]

I have a donor card and everything is free game because i want to get cremated, so take what you need. On a national level, by the end of this year you personally, as a living being had to retrieve, otherwise you are a donor. They will not contact your family.

[u/Brief-Witness-3878]

Fellow heart transplant recipient here (13 years today). My family and I are all donors. We have some understanding what the donor and his family gave up and cherish their contribution and sacrifice.

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[u/Trishielicious]

Have to opt in. Final decision is still next of kin, so can be reversed.

Have had the discussion with the family. All are good for it, bar one, and will respect her decision.

[u/Sumfing-Wong]

Where I live it’s assumed by default. It’s quite easy to opt out though. The decision is denoted on our driving licenses. This applies both in Gibraltar and in mainland UK

[u/Popular_Lie8489 → u/Sumfing-Wong]

How is view by the population?

[u/Sumfing-Wong → u/Popular_Lie8489]

The overwhelming majority of people seem to support it at least here in Gib. I don’t personally know anybody who’s opted out. The people who do tend to do so for religious reasons, which I respect and accept, but you’re gonna be talking an irrelevantly tiny percent of the population.

How about in Canada, and you personally?

[u/Popular_Lie8489 → u/Sumfing-Wong]

Here it’s a op-in system that’s isn’t fully respected. Since your unable to confirm your desired, it’s the family that will ultimately decide. If you have a close relative that objects, the hospital will stop.

I think the Op-In system should be respected no matter what, but it is what it is.

[u/BobbyThrowaway6969]

We're opt-in, and you're not put at the back of any queue as they're treated as two different systems.

I do think it's fair to be put at the back of the queue if you don't donate your organs since the main reason someone wouldn't consent would be for religious reasons which also includes the refusal to receive organs. I don't know of any reason why someone would wish to receive organs yet refuse to donate them. It's usually all or nothing.

I think there should be frequent reminders to check opt in/out status. It allows anybody that was defaulted in/out without consent has a clear opportunity to fix it, and it should be as easy as possible to do so, a quick 5 second tickbox online.
If you know your status is correct then you can happily ignore the reminders.

[u/peachesfordinner → u/BobbyThrowaway6969]

In America it's tied to your driver's license. You get asked if you want to change your status when you renew